California Pizza, Chicago Pizza, or New York Pizza?

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I like my pizzas just as I like my dicks: thick and hot (the Neapolitan style) is better than the thin and crispy (Lazio/Roman-style). :cool:

Just back from Italy, and I ate A LOT of pizza. :rolleyes:

That's the best laugh I've had all day.

Although I agree with Rico.
 

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I got to go with Drifterwood on this one . The BEST pizza I've ever eaten was in Naples.
After spend all of 2009 and part of 2010 in Italy Naples has the best pizza , ROMA is a close second . As for states side ,one of the best pizza I remember is Lombardi's Pizza in NYC , a friend took me there and it was worth the wait, also there is another place in NYC in brooklyn can't remember the name but it's right near the bridge , really good. I prefer think Napoli style they know what they are doing. Since I'm currently in the midwest Detroit are , the BEST PIZZA here hands down is :: SUPINO PIZZA :: It's down in the eastern market area . If you are anywhere in the Midwest , come down to the eastern market to Suponi's pizzeria , you'll be glad you did ! Not many other places where the owner himself is back there making your pie !
 

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Buddha and mountains.

Wasn't that Mohammad, or is there some added Zen layer of irony I'm missing?

FWIW, the best pizza I've ever had (though I've never been to Italy, must say) comes from, of all places New Haven, CT, which is so unique that it has its own Wikipedia page, with links to other pages devoted to several of the landmark restaurants. Technically, it's not "pizza", it's "apizza" and pronounced "ah-peetz" :cool:

Before I lived there (99-03), I always had this image of New Haven as a kinda uber-WASP, preppy place (where everyone's first name was someone's grandmother's last name), but that's only really true for about 300 yards surrounding the Yale campus. Otherwise, it's a very diverse place with some fascinating history (among many other things, the first telephone exchange was "coined" in New Haven; they also claim to have invented the hamburger). The problem with New Haven is that it became a kind of study guide for how to destroy cities in order to accommodate cars due to the proximity of the Yale School of Architecture. Before they were done, all of the colonial-era waterfront and most of downtown, along with several middle-class Victorian neighborhoods were demolished for highway projects and street-widening, leaving nothing but the very beautiful and exclusive enclaves that are 99.9% affluent (though not necessarily all-white racially) and vast areas of intense urban poverty (of many cultures and races, too). This leaves very little room for the middle class, which took advantage of all those highways and fled to the suburbs, leaving New Haven practically unlivable.

The only reminder of what life must have been like in the early-mid 20th century (before all that Urban Removal) is one small street that runs just off one of the more pristine and heavily restored early-Victorian residential squares in the city, which has no fewer than five "Apizza" joints, all with buzzing neon and linoleum-topped tables that are loud and brightly lit and serve the best pizza I've ever had. There's a friendly-but-intense competition amongst them as to who's the "best", but to me they're all indistinguishable from each other.

The actual pies are not necessarily round: more likely they have a roughly oval shape with odd bits sticking out here and there in a very random way. Consequently, there is no such thing as a "perfect" slice of New Haven pizza (in that iconic shape of a triangle with a rounded side); most every slice I've ever had was rather thin. long and had a blunt-cut rectangular tip. Typically, there is at least one part of the pizza that is blackened.

The crust is extremely thin and usually crisp. But because olive oil is generously poured on at least certain parts of certain flavors, the crispiness is nicely contrasted with an oily (not greasy) consistency, especially toward the center of the pie. Genuine Apizza is only cooked in specially-made, custom brick ovens set at a very high heat and only ingredients imported from Italy (except the water, natch) are used, and because of their reputation (especially among Yale grads worldwide) plus the fact that these Apizza shops are still small family-owned and operated, the level of quality remains surprisingly consistent and very high.

The "specialty" is a white pie with littleneck clams, to which I never took a liking. My personal order was always for white pie (no red sauce, please, due to my very damaged digestive system) with spinach and black olives: it's just fabulous :wink:
 

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Wasn't that Mohammad, or is there some added Zen layer of irony I'm missing?

FWIW, the best pizza I've ever had (though I've never been to Italy, must say) comes from, of all places New Haven, CT, which is so unique that it has its own Wikipedia page, with links to other pages devoted to several of the landmark restaurants. Technically, it's not "pizza", it's "apizza" and pronounced "ah-peetz" :cool:

Before I lived there (99-03), I always had this image of New Haven as a kinda uber-WASP, preppy place (where everyone's first name was someone's grandmother's last name), but that's only really true for about 300 yards surrounding the Yale campus. Otherwise, it's a very diverse place with some fascinating history (among many other things, the first telephone exchange was "coined" in New Haven; they also claim to have invented the hamburger). The problem with New Haven is that it became a kind of study guide for how to destroy cities in order to accommodate cars due to the proximity of the Yale School of Architecture. Before they were done, all of the colonial-era waterfront and most of downtown, along with several middle-class Victorian neighborhoods were demolished for highway projects and street-widening, leaving nothing but the very beautiful and exclusive enclaves that are 99.9% affluent (though not necessarily all-white racially) and vast areas of intense urban poverty (of many cultures and races, too). This leaves very little room for the middle class, which took advantage of all those highways and fled to the suburbs, leaving New Haven practically unlivable.

The only reminder of what life must have been like in the early-mid 20th century (before all that Urban Removal) is one small street that runs just off one of the more pristine and heavily restored early-Victorian residential squares in the city, which has no fewer than five "Apizza" joints, all with buzzing neon and linoleum-topped tables that are loud and brightly lit and serve the best pizza I've ever had. There's a friendly-but-intense competition amongst them as to who's the "best", but to me they're all indistinguishable from each other.

The actual pies are not necessarily round: more likely they have a roughly oval shape with odd bits sticking out here and there in a very random way. Consequently, there is no such thing as a "perfect" slice of New Haven pizza (in that iconic shape of a triangle with a rounded side); most every slice I've ever had was rather thin. long and had a blunt-cut rectangular tip. Typically, there is at least one part of the pizza that is blackened.

The crust is extremely thin and usually crisp. But because olive oil is generously poured on at least certain parts of certain flavors, the crispiness is nicely contrasted with an oily (not greasy) consistency, especially toward the center of the pie. Genuine Apizza is only cooked in specially-made, custom brick ovens set at a very high heat and only ingredients imported from Italy (except the water, natch) are used, and because of their reputation (especially among Yale grads worldwide) plus the fact that these Apizza shops are still small family-owned and operated, the level of quality remains surprisingly consistent and very high.

The "specialty" is a white pie with littleneck clams, to which I never took a liking. My personal order was always for white pie (no red sauce, please, due to my very damaged digestive system) with spinach and black olives: it's just fabulous :wink:

After living in both NYC and New Haven, I'll back that New Haven has the most special (and best) pizza. Since I moved from New Haven, one of the more famous names has expanded to other regions of Connecticut as well. I think the feedback is that they did a decent job replicating the unique oven-of-all-ovens which is partially credited for its crisp and texture, among other aspects.

Although non-historical and really a different taste, a place simply called "Bar" was consistently named by students, despite being literally the thinnest pizza around -- to the point that it flops uncontrollably if you try to pick it up. It was double-over sandwich pizza, unless you used a fork. I did wonder if its popularity was moreso because its right on the strip of many popular bars (three gay ones, to boot), and had its own drink specials.

New Haven pizza is worth a detour if driving through CT.

After reading all of this, I think I am going to get some tonight :)
 

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I've never been to New Haven CT, so I'll take your word for it and eat some pizza if I ever do get there.

Pizzeria Antica Napoli, Genova, Italia. It's in a kind of a seedy part of the waterfront. But the service is attentive and the pie is sublime. We rent an apartment within walking distance every other year in October, just so I can eat there.
 
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After living in both NYC and New Haven, I'll back that New Haven has the most special (and best) pizza. Since I moved from New Haven, one of the more famous names has expanded to other regions of Connecticut as well. I think the feedback is that they did a decent job replicating the unique oven-of-all-ovens which is partially credited for its crisp and texture, among other aspects.

Although non-historical and really a different taste, a place simply called "Bar" was consistently named by students, despite being literally the thinnest pizza around -- to the point that it flops uncontrollably if you try to pick it up. It was double-over sandwich pizza, unless you used a fork. I did wonder if its popularity was moreso because its right on the strip of many popular bars (three gay ones, to boot), and had its own drink specials.

New Haven pizza is worth a detour if driving through CT.

After reading all of this, I think I am going to get some tonight :)

I always ate New Haven pizza with a knife and fork, at least until it was room-temperature, and even then :cool:

Bar might be new, or else there have been shifts in the gay nightlife since 2003 (both distinct possibilities). I never understood why such a relatively large openly-gay population put up with such paucity of nightlife options, but after almost six moths of living in a lovely apartment in an impossible part of town (Edgewood Ave across the park from Westville), my partner and I hightailed it to North Haven, as anything around Orange St was out of our budget :rolleyes:

For the record, my personal fave was Modern Apizza, on State St: same pizza, much nicer venue (if you could find a place to park: their tiny lot filled up too fast).