The comment about feeling guilty when you have an orgasm with a guy making a guy straight made me think about an experience I had. I had the opposite experience. No orgasm, just making out with a girl. I am pretty inexperienced in general. I really enjoyed making out with this girl, I felt aroused. She really made me feel good the way she looked at me.
I thought she was really cute.
But I felt a little guilty because I also have gay feelings sometimes.
I smoked pot for the fist time in a very long time because I was stokked being around this girl and I wanted to show her I would do things I was scared of doing with her. I felt like I could tell her anything and in an attempt to get rid of any guilt I told her bluntly that I sometimes like guys. And she said that was alright. I was so happy to hear that, because I really liked this girl. I said that I didn't think a girl from our town would understand. She said she totally was cool. Finally I Homer Simpsoned it and added that "now I don't have to feel guilty when I am kissing you."
I think that sacerd her off. I didn't realize how much meaning was in my statement until readin this thread.
She seemed so into me, it happened so fast. I thought we would be together for a while. And then I didn't hear from her for 2 weeks and found out she hooked up with some other guy.
It sucks. I am heartbroken. My question: Does the fact that I felt guilty making out with her because of gay feelings make me gay? Or should I stop worrying and just let things happen next time. Or should I trust that she really didn't care and that it wasn't that comment that tripped her out, and wait for someone else to come along.
Maybe I shouldn't even be tripping on this girl. Especially if the guilt thing signifies an underlying homounflexible non desire to be with a girl. Or am I pigeonholing feelings in that destrcutive way that everyone talks about?
Bingo.Just because a straight guy sucks a few dicks (in his past), that doesn't mean he will end up wanting to suck dicks for the rest of his life (making him a bisexual)
The idea that a guy can be "straight" and still be sucking cock is absolutely ludicrous to me. The guy may not see himself as being a flaming queen, but the bottom line is: He's not straight, by definition. If he's still having sex with women, he's bisexual. Otherwise he's gay and in denial.One of the straight guys mentioned how he had sucked off a couple of guys but that it "didn't make him gay".
What does it matter? Why not leave people alone? Arliss claims to be 100% straight and he sniffs mens arses. We let him have his claim.
Yes, sounds bisexual.
It could be that this guy tried sucking a cock or 2 (er... it's the or 2 part that pretty much answers the question) as an experiment just to see if he would like it. It's not unheard of, I know a guy who sucked off a friend of his when they were teens. He maintains that he is straight.
Sexuality is like a scale with hetero and homo on opposite ends, certainly a guy who will suck a cock even out of curiosity and an interest in experimentation is farther toward the middle of that scale than a lot of guys who hover strictly toward the hetero end.
But basically, if he says he's straight then being somewhat in the middle, he's selected to consider himself as straight, which is I suppose a choice that all bisexual men have to eventually make (unless your in a three-way relationship, and that's a whole other topic) you can only settle down in the end with a girl or a guy, that is unless you never settle down.
A straight man can engage in a homosexual act, but this does not alter his sexual preferences. I don't see the complications with that sentiment.
The comment about feeling guilty when you have an orgasm with a guy making a guy straight made me think about an experience I had. I had the opposite experience. No orgasm, just making out with a girl. I am pretty inexperienced in general. I really enjoyed making out with this girl, I felt aroused. She really made me feel good the way she looked at me.
I thought she was really cute.
But I felt a little guilty because I also have gay feelings sometimes.
I smoked pot for the fist time in a very long time because I was stokked being around this girl and I wanted to show her I would do things I was scared of doing with her. I felt like I could tell her anything and in an attempt to get rid of any guilt I told her bluntly that I sometimes like guys. And she said that was alright. I was so happy to hear that, because I really liked this girl. I said that I didn't think a girl from our town would understand. She said she totally was cool. Finally I Homer Simpsoned it and added that "now I don't have to feel guilty when I am kissing you."
I think that sacerd her off. I didn't realize how much meaning was in my statement until readin this thread.
She seemed so into me, it happened so fast. I thought we would be together for a while. And then I didn't hear from her for 2 weeks and found out she hooked up with some other guy.
It sucks. I am heartbroken. My question: Does the fact that I felt guilty making out with her because of gay feelings make me gay? Or should I stop worrying and just let things happen next time. Or should I trust that she really didn't care and that it wasn't that comment that tripped her out, and wait for someone else to come along.
Maybe I shouldn't even be tripping on this girl. Especially if the guilt thing signifies an underlying homounflexible non desire to be with a girl. Or am I pigeonholing feelings in that destrcutive way that everyone talks about?
Well, I agree, but with one qualifier: it doesn't matter who a man enjoys having sex with, whether it's women only, women and men, or men only. What does matter if he lies about his orientation to make himself feel ok with it. See, a man who says "I'm straight, but I like to have sex with men on occasion" or who says "If I let a guy suck my cock, I'm not having sex with him" is doing serious damage to gay rights. It lets him engage in behaviors that he claims are "wrong", without having to take responsibility for those behaviors. It allows him to see homosexuals as lower forms of life, while he enjoys the benefits of homosexual activity without being one of those lower forms of life. Otherwise, he would simply say "I'm bisexual."if you enjoy it... who cares what anyone else thinks...
I like Simcha's take on the situation: to me, the issue is whether or not the guy at the party is being honest to himself about his sexual activity. The guy evidently likes sex with men, at least occasionally, otherwise it wouldn't have happened more than once and he wouldn't be talking about it to a bunch of people he may or may not know well at a party. Simcha is correct in saying that the only label that matters is the one that you apply to yourself, but I believe that label should be grounded in some reality.The Kinsey studies and the Kinsey Scale, of which most people are aware, only take a look at sexual activity... What actually matters is how one identifies one's self.