Can I make myself gay?

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  1. Mr. Pookie

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    Being gay seems fun. Now, before you get mad at me, yes, I know it can suck (hee hee), but does it? If you're in your late 20's like me, being straight is just disgusting. It's virtually prostitution to be with anyone, since dating costs money, and besides the money you shell out to get to "know" someone, you need money to have them stay. And don't forget social standing. Now, before some of you wonderful women on this site protest, let me define what "no money" means for me: no restaurants, no drinks at bars, no concerts, no going to the movies, no gifts. I can't even afford to give myself those things. But gayness! That allows one to be the treated, if one is lucky enough to be endowed with boyish good looks, such as myself. It also allows for sex between 2 adults, without money being a factor. As a bonus, the expectation to fit into mainstream society disappears, because....you can't! So my question, finally, is how can I make myself gay? I've tried masturbating while thinking of guys - doesn't work. I've let dudes suck my dick to offend people at parties - never got hard, but loved having my dick seen by the mixed crowd. I also kissed dudes during truth or dare games in college (hated the stubble). But being gay seems best. It would really help me, so does anyone have any tips (no pun intended)?
     
  2. Matthew

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    Why, it's easy, Mr. Pookie. You just put on a pair of ruby red slippers, click your heels together three times and say, "There's no place like homo."
     
  3. IntactMale

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    Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you're already gay, just based on the way you talked about things in that post, maybe you don't know it yet. But you're right about the money issue. Despite that I believe there are some good girls out there and I'm willing to wait and find them. I've been celibate for 5 years, it almost doesn't really matter how long I have to wait at this point. It might be fun to fool around with a guy, but I don't think i could ever have the same type of relationship with a man that I could have with a woman. I guess I don't feel like I could ever be in love with a man, and in my mind that's the difference between gay and bi/straight.
     
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    heh, I just reread that, sorry for jumping around so much. I shouldn't post when I'm fucked up.
     
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    I got news for you. The "rules" of dating in the gay world work the same way. Dates cost money. If you want no committment, hookup sex, you can find that either gay or str8, if you know where to look.
     
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    Well, I can see why you might say that I seem like I would be gay...I've been told before. But I love women. I love the smell of their sweat. I love when their vaginas smell strongly. I have been in love with them. Men...it's the opposite...they just seem "dirty" to me or something. Those times I mentioned messing with guys were drunk and always in front of girls. It's just the social thing that has become too much with women. I was happy in college, but in the real world...it's just too infuriating. I'm going on 3 years now without dating or having a relationaship. Plus, I'm in Memphis, where you "have to" get married and have kids by the age of 20. I'm a 29 single male with no kids and considered an oddity. The whole thing just makes me sick, so yeah, I wish I was gay. It just seems nice, despite the death threats.
     
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    I don't think you can make yourself gay, but it's good you're open-minded. Why limit yourself?

    Do you think you could masturbate with another guy or guys? We all masturbate, so it's normal and quite likely that you could do that and enjoy it whether you were into the other guy or not.

    I don't even think mutual masturbation is gay, but a lot of guys are terribly threatened and uptight about it. I think they are probably thinking the opposite of you--that mutual masturbation will make them gay, or they'll like doing it.
     
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    I disagree. I've hung out with friends at gay bars and hustled drinks for myself by flirting (bad, I know). And every time, I know I could've gotten my dick sucked. Yes, it's crass, but there's the bigger picture of my post that you're missing. In the straight world, especially in the south, the man is expected to be the provider. Even when 2 spouses work, the man is expected to handle the bulk of the financial burden in the last analysis. It is all a prelude to marriage, the eventual goal of straight dating if all goes right. As for finding an easy hook-up....no, it's not that easy with women. Plus, even if it does happen, you run into the same troubles all over again if you want a relationship. The homosexual lifestyle, though I may not know much of it, is not along the same rigid lines. There is not a feeling of shame or burden in the same way as a man in a straight relationship who fails to stand up financially.
     
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    Take it from someone that is gay. You've got some misconceived notions. Some are correct though.
     
  10. novice_btm

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    I have to agree with Intact. No judgement call, and it's not even WHAT you say, but HOW you say it. You syntax and writing style are such that I can practically hear a lisp. Regardless of what you are saying, if I had to guess who the author was, I'd say a girl, or a gay guy.
     
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    Well, I do think with two men it is even more possible to have sex of various kinds without any love or romance involved.
     
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    I know what you mean. Despite a lot of lip service to the contrary--people needing independence, their own space, equal opportunity, etc., people tend to fall back on convention because it feels familiar and familiar feels comfortable--whether or not it makes any sense or has ever made any sense. Once in relationships people tend to fall back on stereotypes. Heck, some people fall back on stereotypes before the date is over. Probably biology is heavily involved.
     
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    Well, you're just saying that I write well, aren't you? I take it as a compliment. But really, I'm kind of an agressive asshole-type male...though I am listening to David Bowie right now. Anyway, it'd be nice if you're right, but judging from what you say I could also just be extremely self-conscious.
     
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    It has been my personal experience that the gay cultural world is mostly just a reflection of the straight culturl world, only exacerbated to an almost grotesque degree. It holds the most shallow forms in the highest regard, and spits on the things that should mean the most. You cane be treated, and bought, essentially, by gay men in bars if you are hot and hung and young. Your sexuality really makes very little difference inthis regard, only your physical appearance. You have neither emotional nor sexual desire to be with men, you only want to have the tables turned, and be "treated". FIne. GO to gay bars, and get fawned over, get your drinks bought, take a viagra before you go, and get good head in the process---but you won't, and can;t make yourself anything you aren't. Yes, southern culture is still steeped deeply in traditions, including the whole "you're a man, therefore you must pay to be near my golden pussy" syndrome. So, move, wait until you find a woman who is from out of the area, demand equality, tease gay men to get them to buy you things(which is a prety shitty thing to do, but you can have whatever personal morals you want), whatever makes you happy. But don;t for a minute think any of it can make you ANYTHING but who you are at heart. I wish you the best of luck, and hope you find your personal happiness, whatever path you ultimately choose.
     
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    It's an honest question to me.

    novice_btm is projecting. I don't get a lisp out of what you are saying.
     
  16. novice_btm

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    Oh, c'mon, the name alone, "Pookie"??? Yeah, that really projects aggressive masculinity. :tongue:
     
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    To me he's just asking, can I make myself gay? I'm probably naive, but I don't detect an ulterior or titillation motive.

    So far it's refreshing when someone starts a thread about an apparently straightforward question that you don't hear every day, although having said that, I may turn out looking the fool.
     
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    for me the issues of understanding my sexuality and my emotional needs has been tough so I don't think I'd put it in the same terms you use. for me it's becoming more and more about who I am attracted to (not just in a physical way) and who I love. I think these are big questions and take a while to come to grips with.
     
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    I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, per se, nor am I saying that he's adding any ulterior motive. I'm not saying anything about his question, at all. As I said, WHAT he's writing is irrelevant, it could be about elephants playing baseball, but HOW he writes, his syntax, his structure, his wording, is in a very feminine style. There's nothing aggressive, or masculine, about it. So, again, it makes me agree with the other guy that said, he already sounds gay.
     
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    That makes him gay?

    How sad.
     
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