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I hope someone here, smarter than I, can assemble data and start a thread listing the state of the economy as it stands today, with comparisons to the lies told by trump and republicans, as a standard to measure against where we are in the future under the fascist trump regime

If only facts mattered to these people. It is about blood and soil, about traditional patriarchy and racial hierarchy. And should they suffer economically so be it. They have no interest in working outside that hierarchy to the benefit of all even if it means helping themselves. They will die in each other's arms.
 
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Hillary won the popular vote.

White trash preZ

I am distressed.

Everything is GOP controlled - everything!

WHERE DID WE GO WRONG?

I am so scared for this country.

Minority groups - I am so, so sorry.

People of color are worried about Search and Frisk. They're also worried about the National Guard heavily policing black people. And this is just the beginning.

My dear Mexicans, you're going nowhere but home - the USA.
 

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WHERE DID WE GO WRONG?

In putting your support behind the worst Democratic presidential candidate in this nation's history during the primary.

The people responsible for a Trump win are the folks who voted for Hillary during the primary.
 
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In putting your support behind the worst Democratic presidential candidate in this nation's history during the primary.

The people responsible for a Trump win are the folks who voted for Hillary during the primary.

Uhh no. It is the people who voted for Trump in spite of spending a whole year watching this man insult group after group after group. And displaying his manifest unfitness for the job. And they voted for him anyway. You need to lay the blame where it belongs.
 

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Uhh no. It is the people who voted for Trump in spite of spending a whole year watching this man insult group after group after group.

You don't understand simple reality. Those people EXIST... they are not your fucking property... they are not your family or your children.

They are their own people and you DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THEM. The only control YOU had was to vote for the candidate that was the strongest against Trump. Hillary was projected to lose back in the early primary polls and those were CORRECT.

Your strategy of continuing to blame innocent people for your failings is only leading to more divisiveness and strife in this country. The right wingers are not your fucking enemy, they are your countrymen. They voted to the best of their ability... they don't have the ability to see or know the "truth".


YOU however, DO have the ability to know the truth yet you ignore it for a "feel good" partisan rush of endorphins... but the answer is that YOU didn't vote to the best of your ability and YOU need to own up to that instead of lashing out and blaming everyone but yourself or your candidate.
 

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Uhh no. It is the people who voted for Trump in spite of spending a whole year watching this man insult group after group after group. And displaying his manifest unfitness for the job. And they voted for him anyway. You need to lay the blame where it belongs.

It's also a downturn in turnout for Hillary. I am one of those Bernie supports who voted for Hillary but did so reluctantly. I voted more for her as an anti Trump voter.

Mind you, I don't buy into all the dog whistle crap spewed by the right wing about Hillary, but I'm also not enamored of her.

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Hillary's message of "Evil Russia... Trump the rapist and Hillary as Jesus" simply didn't resonate with voters.

Her fear mongering of Russia and the subsequent ginning up of WWIII was her biggest mistake. Demonizing Putin and Russia while attempting to connect Trump to Putin was a disastrous idea.

Evil Russia and Trump the rapist (even though he's never been convicted of rape) was the cornerstone of their campaign... a sprinkling of "Trump is a racist" didn't help flavor the shit casserole her campaign was cooking up.

Robby Mook should be tarred and feathered.
 
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You don't understand simple reality. Those people EXIST... they are not your fucking property... they are not your family or your children.

They are their own people and you DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THEM. The only control YOU had was to vote for the candidate that was the strongest against Trump. Hillary was projected to lose back in the early primary polls and those were CORRECT.

Your strategy of continuing to blame innocent people for your failings is only leading to more divisiveness and strife in this country. The right wingers are not your fucking enemy, they are your countrymen. They voted to the best of their ability... they don't have the ability to see or know the "truth".

YOU however, DO have the ability to know the truth yet you ignore it for a "feel good" partisan rush of endorphins... but the answer is that YOU didn't vote to the best of your ability and YOU need to own up to that instead of lashing out and blaming everyone but
yourself
or your candidate.

Big letters and bold are meant for something? I've shrunken it down for ya ;)

So Bernie would have beaten Trump? That's pure conjecture. Monday morning quarterbacking.

The bottom line is if you are going to hire someone for a job it's nobody's job but your own to know the requirements of the job and vet the candidates. If you are not up to the task you end up with a Donald Trump for the job. Your attempt to paint them as "innocent" is fucking hilarious. Tell that to whatever nation Donald decides to nuke because their leader insulted him. Because he can't handle insults. "Innocent" give me goddamn break. Or when the candidate for the job lies constantly and they can't figure it out. "Innocent" give me a goddamn break.
 
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I can't wait to see the vote broken down into sub groups; men, women, Caucasian, Latino, African American, Asian, Native American, Pacific Islanders, age groups, especially those under 25, and if even possible, LGBT.

Then, if possible, I would love to know the percentage of eligible voters of those sub groups that did not vote.

A/B
 
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So Bernie would have beaten Trump? That's pure conjecture.

It isn't Monday morning quarterbacking... it is the fucking fact.

That fact isn't convenient for you because it would mean that you brought about a Trump presidency with your vociferous support for Hillary Clinton during the primary. You are acting like a child blaming everyone but yourself. Personal responsibility is 100% absent from your modus operandi... you've never accepted blame for your shortcomings... you are nothing more than an overgrown child.

Bernie Would Have Beaten Trump

Trump vs Sanders - The Reality
 
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It isn't Monday morning quarterbacking... it is the fucking fact.

That fact isn't convenient for you because it would mean that you brought about a Trump presidency with your vociferous support for Hillary Clinton during the primary. You are acting like a child blaming everyone but yourself. Personal responsibility is 100% absent from your modus operandi... you've never accepted blame for your shortcomings... you are nothing more than an overgrown child.

Bernie Would Have Beaten Trump

Trump vs Sanders - The Reality

Hey I can post speculative opinion pieces too!!

It isn’t clear whether Sanders would have effectively eliminated a Trump presidency in a general election.
 
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^ Interesting, @tripod how you changed that USA Today headline from, "Would Bernie Sanders have defeated Donald Trump?" to "Bernie Would Have Beaten Trump".

I have no ability to change a headline.

You mean the hyperlinked text? That is not the "headline"... you see the entire link when hovering your mouse over the hyperlinked text... how I link to an article is my prerogative. The body of the article answers the rhetorical question contained within the headline... USA Today was being cute and forcing people to read the article to answer the rhetorical "question".

I find rhetorical questions cumbersome and useless. The article illustrated how Bernie would have defeated Trump, my hyperlinked text was actually more truthful than the "headline" at explaining the contents of the article. You're welcome.


I quoted hard data from TWO mainstream American news sources and you quoted a speculative piece from an obscure source... yet in your twisted mind those are equal. Is there anything you do that isn't incredibly weak?
 
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I quoted hard data from TWO mainstream American news sources and you quoted a speculative piece from an obscure source... yet in your twisted mind those are equal. Is there anything you do that isn't incredibly weak?

NO you fucking didn't!! You sourced something and it's from a mainstream American newspaper? I'm confused Tripod. You told me I was just a tool for CNN,CBS,NBC, ABC, yada yada yada. And now you throw USAToday up at me.

Sidebar though. Yes I do think Bernie could have beaten Trump. Just not for the reason you espouse.

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^ La di da... As if you weren't trying to force your belief by changing the headline for your link. Nice try at a cover-up there, Comrade Tripod.

1). You are not my "comrade", you are my troll

2). I didn't try and "force my beliefs" since the article was how Bernie would have been a better candidate than Clinton. Your feigned outrage is just more of your incessant and aggressive trolling... trolling because you have been beat so many times trying to outwit me that you have morphed into a clown troll.

3). Your clown trolling doesn't in any way make you seem more logical or cognitively superior... it makes you look like a fool.

4). I hate you with a passion. You are a horrible person and everything that is wrong with the political left wing of this country. Your ideology and methods were soundly defeated by another clown troll with better clown hair... you are beating a dead horse and it's almost mush at this point. You have nothing.
 
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I hope someone here, smarter than I, can assemble data and start a thread listing the state of the economy as it stands today, with comparisons to the lies told by trump and republicans, as a standard to measure against where we are in the future under the fascist trump regime

We did that Slurper. Listed all the ways the GOP has screwed America to show what would happen should they gain complete control. They don't give a fuck about such facts. Just give 'em some minority to blame.
 
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NO you fucking didn't!! You sourced something and it's from a mainstream American newspaper? I'm confused Tripod. You told me I was just a tool for CNN,CBS,NBC, ABC, yada yada yada. And now you throw USAToday up at me. Sidebar though. Yes I do think Bernie could have beaten Trump. Just not for the reason you espouse.

1). I didn't give you a reason... I showed you the data. You are getting ahead of yourself there partner.

2). I can see where you'd be confused about the media. The same powers that controlled the Hillary Clinton campaign control a good portion of the media... they don't control it all, just a really effective portion of it. Those same powers used planted sympathetic journalists to produce bullshit piece after bullshit piece after bullshit piece. These bullshit pieces were out and out propaganda disguised as "news" and foolish partisan Democrats lapped up every single one of these propagandistic stories while erroneously perceiving them as regular ol' unbiased news stories. These Democrats disseminated these stories on their Facebook pages, blogs, twitter accounts and on websites such as this.

YOU were one of these foolish partisan Democrats disseminating propaganda disguised as news... and you did so with an almost enraged fervor and a craven frequency.

So where you are logically getting confused is when you operate as a tool of the media and I am over here using the media as a tool... it's an error of modal logic and I'm happy to point that out to you.

Just because you disseminate propaganda from the mainstream media... doesn't mean that all content in the mainstream media is propagandistic...again anther failure of modal logic.
 
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