Carson Daly -- looks like he has AIDS

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Damn people.

I've known three people who died of AIDS. And towards the end, they looked like Carson Daly. Indeed, some people can have AIDS and never lose such dramatic weight as Daly has, such as Magic Johnson (then again, he has HIV, not AIDS). Still, it's no newsflash that AIDS causes extreme weight loss. A man I knew with AIDS was so fit that he was a star of a Solo Flex ad, and within a year of that ad he was as skinny and unhealthy as Carson Daly. Within the next year he was dead.
 

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"You should have said, "he looks like he's been in a Nazi concentration camp"


This is so beyond offensive especially as a remedy for something supposedly offensive. The comment understands neither the Nazis nor concentration camps.
 

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Agreed... much hotter in his TRL days. Maybe he's probably on one of those foo-foo Hollywood diets these days... :ponder:
 

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Damn people.

I've known three people who died of AIDS. And towards the end, they looked like Carson Daly. Indeed, some people can have AIDS and never lose such dramatic weight as Daly has, such as Magic Johnson (then again, he has HIV, not AIDS). Still, it's no newsflash that AIDS causes extreme weight loss. A man I knew with AIDS was so fit that he was a star of a Solo Flex ad, and within a year of that ad he was as skinny and unhealthy as Carson Daly. Within the next year he was dead.

I agree with you. He also had quite a lot of girlfriends, including some hollywood stars.
 

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Why is it okay to state someone looks like they have cancer, anorexia, or other diseases, while having to censor yourself when it comes to AIDS? In my opinion, this does more harm than good, as it separates them and implies one is "good" while the other is "bad". Neither is flattering, and at the same time, both can be apparent. If one is offensive then the other needs to be just as offensive. If one is acceptable, then the other should be just as acceptable.

My sister HAS very bad thyroid cancer. My best male friend since 1993 has AIDS, and since I worked in San Francisco with the airlines, I have lost a number of good friends from the disease.

Yes, the general public is uninformed and can react badly to AIDS victims. Believe me, when they see the scar on my sister's neck from ear to ear they don't react too kindly as well.

However, there is a point where political correctness becomes overly sensitive and does more damage as opposed to treating each situation with the same feeling. When others are made to feel like they have to whisper about something, it makes both parties uncomfortable.

When I respond as a paramedic, I am often aware of those with illnesses. I always make sure that I acknowledge the disease while remaining respectful. I don't treat one differently than the other.

If people make it something to be ashamed of rather than something that a fellow human being needs support on, it will always be an issue that causes prejudism and stereotyping. Ignoring it, whispering about it, not talking about it causes ignorance and close-mindedness.
 

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Well, I think all of his girlfriends should be tested for HIV/AIDS. Otherwise, the disease will spread like a wild fire in Hollywood.
 

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WildHoney, I totally undrstand what you mean. For me, I just think that there are other ways to describe a person's physical condition other than by trying to identify it with a disease. It reinforces negative images.
Both my parents have gone through their own bouts with cancer and my Aunt is currently under treatment for a recurrence of ovarian cancer. My Uncle died of AIDS, in this day and age, it is almost impossible not to know someone affected by these and other diseases. So I would be offended by any reference to someone looking like they are stricken by a disease.
 

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Well for someone who is married to a person with aids. This thread just makes me feel dissapointed. However I come to the point where I only really care about someone's opinion I trust. Family, friends, relatives. So if you think he looks like he has aids then you are more than welcome to state your opinion.
 

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My point here is that if he knows he has AIDS, he must stop spreading the disease. I mean all of his former partners deserve to know that he's carrying the virus so that they could have early treatment if they also have HIV/AIDS.
 

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Carsom looks very thin...only he knows the cause.
Why make comments to exclude, provoke and offend...especially when not based on any factual knowledge?
 

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Here's something for those of you who believe that people with HIV look sickly.
The Associated Press: Obesity a Problem in HIV Population

Obesity a Problem in HIV Population

By ALICIA CHANG – 3 days ago
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Early in the AIDS epidemic, people infected with the virus often lost a dangerous amount of weight, at times looking gaunt and ghostly. Today, they are facing the opposite problem. Many who have HIV, but not full-blown AIDS, are struggling with obesity, which has overtaken "wasting syndrome" as the top concern.


AIDS researchers and advocacy groups say the waistlines of HIV patients are growing right along with the girths of uninfected Americans as the disease shifts from a death sentence to a chronic condition.
Exact numbers are hard to pin down. But new research suggests that nearly two-thirds of the HIV population may be overweight or obese, mirroring the U.S. population.


Doctors say there's a growing need to screen people with the AIDS virus for obesity, which raises the risk of diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol problems.


"We used to worry that they would lose weight and become wasted," said Dr. Nancy Crum-Cianflone of TriService AIDS Clinical Consortium in San Diego. "Maybe we should redirect our concerns to making sure they are maintaining a healthy, normal weight."


About a million people in the United States are living with HIV or AIDS, federal statistics show. At the height of the epidemic, many had wasting syndrome, the uncontrollable loss of 10 percent of body weight along with other symptoms like fever or diarrhea.


A turning point in the AIDS crisis came with advances in modern medicine. Powerful drugs that keep the virus at bay also boost the body's immune system. The result is that more HIV patients are living longer than their counterparts two decades ago, and may be prone to poor eating habits and lack of exercise.


Some experts offer psychological explanations. Since the hallmark of HIV has been weight loss, some patients may be piling on the pounds to avoid looking abnormally thin.


"It's very clear now that HIV is no longer a wasting disease in America," said Dr. John T. Brooks, an epidemiologist in AIDs prevention at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Brooks did not participate in the study.
Crum-Cianflone became interested in the problem after noticing her patients were steadily getting fat and decided to study how common obesity was in the HIV population.


She and her colleagues pored through medical records of 663 patients with HIV at Navy hospitals in San Diego and Bethesda, Md. Researchers analyzed medication records, duration of HIV infection and whether patients had a history of diabetes or high blood pressure.


Sixty-three percent in the study were overweight or obese. Only 3 percent were underweight and none were considered to be "wasted." Among those with full-blown AIDS, about 30 percent were overweight or obese.
The numbers are particularly striking because most of those studied were in the military (some were military spouses) and tend to be in better shape than the rest of the population. Previous research had suggested about 40 percent of HIV patients are overweight.


Researchers did not find a connection between the AIDS drugs and excess weight. When patients gained weight, they tended to put on an average of 13 pounds over a decade. Those who became infected younger, those who had the virus for a longer time, or those who had high blood pressure were more likely to get fat.


Results were to be presented Thursday at an infectious disease meeting in San Diego.


"These folks are in more ways than not becoming like everyone else. If they're overeating, they're going to get fat," said Dr. Michael Saag, director of the AIDS Center at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, who had no role in the study.


"It would be very sad to survive HIV and die of something else that was preventable," said Brooks of the CDC.


At AIDS Project Los Angeles, pudgy HIV patients outnumber the very thin.
"Many of our clients don't even know what wasting is. They never knew that look," said Janelle L'Heureux, a nutritionist with the AIDS service group.
The problem is more evident in those who are poor, because they more often eat junk food and don't have money to join a gym. To help obese HIV patients, the group offers classes on how to read nutrition labels and cook healthy meals.


Jack Gebhardt, 56, of Los Angeles, said he started packing on the pounds after he quit smoking shortly before he was diagnosed with HIV 12 years ago. After working out three times a week, Gebhardt, who is 5-feet-8, went from 217 to 172 pounds.


A diabetic who is on disability, Gebhardt currently cannot afford a gym membership and has seen his weight creep back up to 182.
"I'd still like to lose a lot more weight," he said.
 

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"You should have said, "he looks like he's been in a Nazi concentration camp"


This is so beyond offensive especially as a remedy for something supposedly offensive. The comment understands neither the Nazis nor concentration camps.

Yes you're right. I see the error of what I said. I've looked at the picure again and realise I should have said, "forced labour camp". Thanks for helping me come to that conclusion x x x
 

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My point here is that if he knows he has AIDS, he must stop spreading the disease. I mean all of his former partners deserve to know that he's carrying the virus so that they could have early treatment if they also have HIV/AIDS.

That right there is offensive - why do you assume that, even if he actually does have AIDS (which I'm not saying he does), he's not already taking every necessary precaution and living with full disclosure to those who matter to him (which, btw, isn't you) ?

As for the "Nazi" comment - my God, people, have you no idea what irony and satire are?
 

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The fact is that there are many hollywood celebs who carry the HIV/AIDS virus. A lot of them might not know that they are HIV positive. But hey, that's life.
 

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My point here is that if he knows he has AIDS, he must stop spreading the disease. I mean all of his former partners deserve to know that he's carrying the virus so that they could have early treatment if they also have HIV/AIDS.

The fact is that there are many hollywood celebs who carry the HIV/AIDS virus. A lot of them might not know that they are HIV positive. But hey, that's life.

There are something like 300,000 people in the U.S. that don't know they have HIV, and who knows, some of them may be celebs. There was a time when there were many showbiz people getting AIDS. Rock Hudson was the first famous person. Then Liberace, Dack Rambo, Anthony Perkins, Freddie Mercury, Robert Reed(Mr. Brady), and many designers, writers, makeup artists, porn stars.

A lot of people don't know they have it and are spreading it, and others know they have it and really don't care. They figure they have it and so what if others get it. And then there are those who will actually notify their former partners so they can get tested.

If there was any suspicion that Carson had it, the tabloids would be all over it. They have spies everywhere.