CBO:Obama Budget Plan Underestimates Deficits

[B_spiker067]

Then you're obviously in favor of not allowing people to declare bankruptcy to get out of medical bills either, right? Because all that does is allow "chicken shit" Americans to get out of bills they incurred that they knew they couldn't pay, and dump the costs onto awesome people like yourself. Right?

In your world, where do the "chicken shit" Americans go who get necessary care to stay alive that they, for whatever reason, can't afford? Do they go to a debtors prison and work off their debt on the chain gang? Or do you credit check them at the door, like corporate car dealers do?

Tell us all of the details of how this system you propose works, while covering everyone and consuming less of our GDP than any other way could possibly do.

ARE you and VB the same guy? You segue the same.

BTW, it is the chicken shit Americans who don't want to give up the status quo. They have their insurance and they aren't interested in Obamacare. Why would you defend them? They are chicken shitted even to try your way. The term was used mildly pejoratively and you blow it up out of proportion.

I bow to your superior ways yet again.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Hey VB, got any more of Dr. HG's miracle troll cure? I've grown weary of "Spike through the head". Let's send it back under it's bridge.

Pills? Did someone ask for pills? :biggrin1:
I'm your pusher, baybee... And unlike some medications under private health insurances, this prescription is 100% covered for all. Now available in Cherry flavor!

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[maxcok]

Hey boys! I was just watchin from the sidelines, and I was about to jump in, but I think I'll just have some of those pills instead. Thanks VB, ur my no. 1 pusher man.

So whassup with this crazy crackhead anyway? He is one angry mofo, no? Talk about your broken records, he puts the holy 3in1 to shame.

HSA the only way! HSA the only way!! HSA the only way!!! HSA the only way!!!!
HSA the only way!!!!! HSA the only way!!!!!

Jeezhus Keerhyst, bub. Get you some damn cheerleaders, okay?


Anyway Storm, I still support you keeping your name, if you want. I'm sure it confuses and pisses off the bigots and NeoCons no end, and that's cool, yeah?

 

[B_spiker067]

Hey boys! I was just watchin from the sidelines, and I was about to jump in, but I think I'll just have some of those pills instead. Thanks VB, ur my no. 1 pusher man.

So whassup with this crazy crackhead anyway? He is one angry mofo, no? Talk about your broken records, he puts the holy 3in1 to shame.

HSA the only way! HSA the only way!! HSA the only way!!! HSA the only way!!!!
HSA the only way!!!!! HSA the only way!!!!!

Jeezhus Keerhyst, bub. Get you some damn cheerleaders, okay?


Anyway Storm, I still support you keeping your name, if you want. I'm sure it confuses and pisses off the bigots and NeoCons no end, and that's cool, yeah?

Like its any different than the constant OBAMACARE, OBAMACARE, OBAMACARE..... NOW!!!

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Like its any different than the constant OBAMACARE, OBAMACARE, OBAMACARE..... NOW!!!

There is a difference.
One is a scare tactic with no merit, the other one is just plain stupid. Alas, there is ONE similarity... both are uttered repeatedly by uneducated forum trolls like yourself. Coincidence?

 

[StormfrontFL]

You can't identify Obama's bio can you? Or get the inherent joke in context.

You do know that Islam is bigoted against gays in the most intolerant way? They don't treat them nice in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia where the State puts them to death. Can't think of a single predominantly Christian nation that does the same. Can you? Are you looking forward to the Islamization of Europe and then possibly America?

Don't try and deflect. It doesn't matter what Islam has to say about homosexuality. Just as Christianity or Judaism doesn't matter. What matters is that I accept that one can be something other than Christian(even an atheist)and still be a "real American". By your own statement Muslims aren't "real Americans". And btw not every Muslim feels the same way about gays and the same goes of most other religions.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

You do know that Islam is bigoted against gays in the most intolerant way? They don't treat them nice in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia where the State puts them to death. Can't think of a single predominantly Christian nation that does the same. Can you?

No, but they will try to pass laws denying them basic human rights, all the while taking their tax dollars. Oh, and the zealots will picket their rallies, places of work and leisure with hateful signs that say "God hates fags". And the really crazy ones will actually considering beating or killing a gay man just because they looked at them. Nevermind the "closeted bigots" who are now helping to spread anti-Homosexual propaganda in Zimbabwe which may lead to the country legalizing legislation that would impose life sentences or death to gay men. Yeah, SO MUCH BETTER than Islam.

And BTW, I'm a Christian too. Take the Bible out your ass and refrain from beating your chest over your religious zealotry. You're embarrassing Jesus.

 

[Trinity]

Then obviously we'll have to raise the taxes on the people who benefited from a destructive tax policy time has proven we absolutely could not afford. The capital gains tax and the estate tax will obviously have to return to historic levels from past times when the budget was generally balanced(like the 60s)... We're probably going to have to finally raise the gas tax up from it's comically low levels. Road builders have to stop getting a free ride off the general fund... It's time for the business class and the wealthy to stop expecting a free lunch and get back to working for their success, instead of legislating it to themselves.

Sorry, No. That won't work:

To hit the deficit target relying only on tax increases on the rich, as identified by Obama,

And Obama underestimated by 1TRILLON DOLLARS!

the income tax rates for those earning more than $250,000 would have to be increased to more than 70 percent, Williams and his colleagues Rosanne Altshuler and Katherine Lim wrote in a Tax Policy Center paper released last month.

The Hill.com

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^I have no problem raising the top tax bracket and the capital gains tax back up to whatever rate is necessary, for however long it takes, to pay back the tax cuts high earners have gotten since the 80s that this country has never been able to afford... Frankly, so much wealth has been funneled to the rich with overly generous tax policies in the past that nobody else in the country has any money left to pay for anything anyways. The wealthy are sitting on everything but the scraps.

Like its any different than the constant OBAMACARE, OBAMACARE, OBAMACARE..... NOW!!!

Aww, how cute... You still can't get over the fact that the nation elected a BLACK GUY to solve the problems cowards like you keep creating and leaving for our children... You should have realized that the first thing the rest of us were going to do once we removed you from power is to make you clean up your own mess. It's called revenge and it's fucking sweeet!

This is the part you keep missing in all of this... You angry old white men are so vastly outnumbered (and politically divided from one another) these days, that you're literally irrelevant. You serve no useful purpose other than to pay the bill for the repairs.

Now that you're a political minority, we're going to make sure that people like you pay more in taxes, and have less say in how its spent(preferably no say at all, like how you did to everyone else for generations). We're going to give the working poor everything they need to succeed and take your place in the business world, and there's NOTHING you can do to stop it.

Have a great weekend realizing the fact that you are a cultural dinosaur and that your vision of America is DEAD.

 

[StormfrontFL]

^I have no problem raising the top tax bracket and the capital gains tax back up to whatever rate is necessary, for however long it takes, to pay back the tax cuts high earners have gotten since the 80s that this country has never been able to afford... Frankly, so much wealth has been funneled to the rich with overly generous tax policies in the past that nobody else in the country has any money left to pay for anything anyways. The wealthy are sitting on everything but the scraps.


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Originally Posted by spiker067

Like its any different than the constant OBAMACARE, OBAMACARE, OBAMACARE..... NOW!!!

Aww, how cute... You still can't get over the fact that the nation elected a BLACK GUY to solve the problems cowards like you keep creating and leaving for our children... You should have realized that the first thing the rest of us were going to do once we removed you from power is to make you clean up your own mess. It's called revenge and it's fucking sweeet!

This is the part you keep missing in all of this... You angry old white men are so vastly outnumbered (and politically divided from one another) these days, that you're literally irrelevant. You serve no useful purpose other than to pay the bill for the repairs.

Now that you're a political minority, we're going to make sure that people like you pay more in taxes, and have less say in how its spent(preferably no say at all, like how you did to everyone else for generations). We're going to give the working poor everything they need to succeed and take your place in the business world, and there's NOTHING you can do to stop it.

Have a great weekend realizing the fact that you are a cultural dinosaur and that your vision of America is DEAD.
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[B_VinylBoy]

Oh my... I can only imagine the response our anonymous forum kin will generate after that. Let's place a wager on whom will scream "race card" first and pretend to be morally outraged?

 

[Trinity]

^I have no problem raising the top tax bracket and the capital gains tax back up to whatever rate is necessary, for however long it takes, to pay back the tax cuts high earners have gotten since the 80s that this country has never been able to afford... Frankly, so much wealth has been funneled to the rich with overly generous tax policies in the past that nobody else in the country has any money left to pay for anything. The wealthy are sitting on everything but the scraps.

Obama has underestimated the deficits his budget will cause by over a TRILLION DOLLARS, has demanded REJECTED pathetic Democratic Bills and his sad proposals be forced down the throats of the American people when his plan won't work and could very well collapse the economy and create poor quality of healthcare in the process.

Now, if you could only send that post to Obama's teleprompter for his next speech - that should do it for 2012.

 

[Industrialsize]

Obama has underestimated the deficits his budget will cause by over a TRILLION DOLLARS, has demanded REJECTED pathetic Democratic Bills and his sad proposals be forced down the throats of the American people when his plan won't work and could very well collapse the economy and create poor quality of healthcare in the process.

Now, if you could only send that post to Obama's teleprompter for his next speech - that should do it for 2012.

Obama Caught Lip-Syncing Speech | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

 

[B_talltpaguy]

his sad proposals be forced down the throats of the American people when his plan won't work and could very well collapse the economy and create poor quality of healthcare in the process.

Strange.... that sounds EXACTLY like what the Reps did when they rammed through their agenda using reconciliation.

The difference is, their policies actually did crash the economy.

Obama's policies have brought the economy back from the dead...
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/docpage-recoverystats1.jpg
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/Tem...0004.png?b16848f6-f5d8-41b4-b481-e5111d19ca5f

 

[Trinity]

his sad proposals be forced down the throats of the American people when his plan won't work and could very well collapse the economy and create poor quality of healthcare in the process.

Strange.... that sounds EXACTLY like what the Reps did when they rammed through their agenda using reconciliation.

The difference is, their policies actually did crash the economy.

Obama's policies have brought the economy back from the dead...

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Sorry, No. Republicans used reconcilation for what reconcilation is for...the budget.

And I'm not a Republican so saying their policies crashed the economy doesn't bother me in the least. What does bother me, is Obama's crazy policies which threaten to do worse.

Obama's policies didn't bring us back from the dead...Obama's policies have us indebted beyond our GDP with no real solution before we even address Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Obama's policies have us owned by China.

 

[Industrialsize]

Sorry, No. Republicans used reconcilation for what reconcilation is for...the budget.

And I'm not a Republican so saying their policies crashed the economy doesn't bother me in the least. What does bother me, is Obama's crazy policies which threaten to do worse.

Obama's policies didn't bring us back from the dead...Obama's policies have us indebted beyond our GDP with no real solution before we even address Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Obama's policies have us owned by China.

Health Care reform will not be passed via reconciliation. It has ALREADY passed BOTH houses of congress. I'll quote Robert Byrd:

I believed then, as now, that the Senate should debate the health reform bill under regular rules, which it did. The result of that debate was the passing of a comprehensive health care reform bill in the Senate by a 60-vote supermajority.
I continue to support the budget reconciliation process for deficit reduction. The entire Senate- or House- passed health care bill could not and would not pass muster under the current reconciliation rules, which were established under my watch.
Yet a bill structured to reduce deficits by, for example, finding savings in Medicare or lowering health care costs, may be consistent with the Budget Act, and appropriately considered under reconciliation.

 

[Trinity]

Health Care reform will not be passed via reconciliation. It has ALREADY passed BOTH houses of congress.

That's a bunch of spin. The House would need to pass the Senate Bill as is...and then hope to fix things in reconcilation since Obama no longer has a supermajority in the Senate. There are at least 3 or 4 groups completely opposed to the mess Obama now finds himself in.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

There are at least 3 or 4 groups completely opposed to the mess Obama now finds himself in.

Too bad none of these groups add up to enough to stop anything...lol

That's a bunch of spin.

Yes, your remarks certainly are.

 

[Trinity]

Too bad none of these groups add up to enough to stop anything...lol

Wrong. They can stop the House from passing the Senate Bill as is.

 

[Industrialsize]

Wrong. They can stop the House from passing the Senate Bill as is.

As much as you hate her, Nancy Pelosi is a good Speaker and when she says that the Senate Bill will pass, it will. Bart Stupak is being a twit as nothing in the Senate bill nullifies the HYDE Amendment.