Chat users helped kill dad of 2

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  1. Principessa

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    Chatroom users 'egged on father to kill himself live on webcam'

    A father-of-two hanged himself live over the internet in Britain's first 'cyber suicide'.


    Kevin Whitrick, 42, took his life after being goaded by dozens of chatroom users from across the world who initially believed he was play acting.
    But as they watched in horror, Mr Whitrick climbed onto a chair, smashed through a ceiling and then hanged himself with a piece of rope.

    Kevin Neil Whitrick, 42, was found dead by police in Wellington, after being alerted by a web user who is thought to have watched in horror as the man harmed himself.

    Stunned by what they had witnessed - broadcast on a popular chatroom website used by millions of people across the globe - chatroom users immediately contacted the police.

    Officers rushed to the electrician's home in the Wellington area of Shropshire within minutes, smashing down the door to try to save him.

    But despite their efforts to save him, he was pronounced dead at the scene.

    Last night it emerged that Mr Whitrick had been suffering from depression after being badly injured in a car crash last year.

    Friends said that the breakdown of his marriage with wife, Paula - with whom he had 12-year-old twins - and the recent death of his father had also been causing him some distress.

    Mr Whitrick told users of web-chat site PalTalk what he was going to do two hours before he killed himself on Wednesday night.

    He was logged on with around 50 other users to a special "insult" chatroom where people "have a go at each other".

    Today distraught users of the site said that they felt sick and had previously thought the web broadcast was a hoax.

    They confirmed Mr Whitrick told friends in the internet chat room of his plans to kill himself but, thinking he was joking, they egged him on telling him to make sure the his webcam was on.

    Mr Whitrick, using the user-name Shyboy-17-1, switched on his webcam and went ahead with his grisly plan.

    One anonymous user said: "He tied a rope around an uncovered ceiling joist and stood on the chair as he tied the rope around his neck.

    "Some of us chatroom users, talking to Kevin over text chat, microphones and video tried to convince him to step down, but others egged him on telling him to get on with it.

    "We just couldn't believe he was doing it - it was surreal.
    "One chatter said: 'F***ing do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For F***'s sake he can't even do this properly'."

    Another user who did not wish to be named said: "When Kevin stepped off the chair and was left dangling, the mood in the chatroom changed and people began to realise what they had just seen.

    "We started asking if anyone knew where he lived and saying they should contact the police.

    "I think someone contacted the police in their local area but sadly no one could get to him in time."

    Shortly after, moderators on the site closed the feed from Kevin's webcam.

    'Considerate and kind'
    Mr Whitrick had been living in his flat, a converted house, after splitting from his wife Paula two years ago.

    The couple, who married in 1988, had 12-year-old twins Lewis and Melissa who live with their mother in a three-bedroom, semi-detached home close by.
    They are said to have visited their dad, who worked at family firm RMW electrical services in Shrewsbury, at weekends. His older brother Malcolm Whitrick is an associate director at Shrewsbury Town Football Club.
    "It is important that the use of the internet in this death is fully investigated."
     
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    WOW! This is sad..

    In defense of the people goading him on, there is no way they could have known. We have had depressed people with low self esteem on this very baord and none of us believe that they are capable of harming themselves. I am sure that these viewers felt the same way.
     
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    this isn't the first internet related suicide, even seen on live webcam

    japan has a problem with suicide pacts 2-8ppl gather together to kill themselves...

    sad how some ppl think that the computer protects them from being a normal human being so they become a one man(or woman) mob with a mob mentality
     
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    What do you mean, there's no way they could have known? He told them he wanted to kill himself! How much more do you need to know, really?

    I'm not going to say those people are completely at fault, necessarily... the guy wanted to do it, and ultimately he can make his own decisions, but the people in that chat room have other issues if they honestly think it's okay to coerce someone into killing themselves, regardless of whether or not they think the guy is going to do it. :mad: :frown1: That's just fucked up.
     
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    I think I remeber this happening, it was very sad, tragic even.

    There is phenomenon of cyber bullying, I believe the US has seen it, as has the UK, with kids attacking eachother through facebook and the like.

    It makes me wonder, if the guy was of such a low state of mind, why wasn't he in a forum seeking help for his depression?
     
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    For some the internet is a good way of coping with depression - a release from the everyday shit n stuff. I was one of those a few yrs ago, thankfully I never got low enough to wanna actually commit suicide. But I have seen how some people behave in certain chat rooms. Its sickening.. even in Cam4, there is a lady often on Cam called sweeteva, she's never soba and obviously very troubled yet the messages people keep sending her are enough to push anyone over the edge.

    Then there is the 17 teenage suicides in a small community in Wales - apparently there are no links.
     
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    ...I'm sorry. I'm still of the thought that suicide is a form of cowardice and I always get a lot of hell for saying it, but hey...you've got your asshole, I've got mine. I wont complain that yours stinks if you leave mine alone, too, eh?

    At any rate...there is NO way the users could have known he was seriously going to do it. I think the other people who were telling him to "get on with it" are fucktards. You're ALWAYS supposed to take someone seriously when they say they're going to kill his or her self.

    The blame of the suicide is totally on him, he didn't have to get up there on that chair and do it. The fact that he had to do it in a chatroom with "millions of people" just shows how badly he was starving for attention. I just wish he got it from his wife before he died.
     
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    You are correct yet again Megs.

     
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    I agree with you completely. He did not have to kill himself via cyberspace to get some results. There are suicide hotlines and there are other sources of help that Whitrick could have gotten before committing this desperate act.

    The part where you say that he should have gotten the much needed attention from his family is also true. Instead of just having his wife be there for him, he should have also had the love and support of his children to help him. Not only did he lose his wife and kids (to a seperation), but he also recently lost his father.

    Those assholes on the web that gave him the podium to this was wrong, and I hope they really rot in hell. This may be a long shot, but perhaps them talking him out of it would have helped him get over it, since he used his chat-friends as his source of attention.
     
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    Well If I am on webchat with you and out of the blue I tell you that I am going to hang myself... What is the next thing you are going to type: LOL or start dialing 911? You are going to automatically assume that I am kidding. The actual act of committing suicide takes less than a couple of minutes and by the time these viewers on the webcam realized what was going on they were 1) too in shock to immediately react and 2) it was already too late, no emergency services would have made it there in time.
     
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    What chatroom was this? Yahoo?
     
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    there's a link to the full article in the first post. The article has pix too!

    but it was on paltalk.com. I'm guessing he felt so down he wanted people to make fun of him etc and make him feel even worse. A victim looking for a bully.
    He was logged on with around 50 other users to a special "insult" chatroom where people "have a go at each other".
     
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    Where is this chatroom? I want to go!
     
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    Thanks NJ. I think men are especially closeted about thier depression. I am not ashamed to say that I have depression, but it's not really easy for me to hide anyway. I agree about the discussion groups. They have done me more harm than good with my anxious depression.

    You are way too hot to be in hotlanta. Come to Ottawa. It's nice and cold here
     
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    Imo, he wanted an excuse to kill himself, and further, to not be alone while doing so. Say I lack empathy, but if he wanted to end his life and acted on it, so be it. I won't scream tragedy or blame the chat people because the decision was ultimately his. No way I would categorize this as a case of cyber-bullying, he was complicit.
     
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    Nobody knows where this chatroom is?
     
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    Well maybe not bullying but the sorta picking on...

    he says I'm going to kill myself...
    they respond DO IT YEAH DO IT... DO IT...

    that type of thing... the egging on, self humiliation type thing.

    For every good thing.. someone going into a diabetic coma or such on webcam and the roomies trying to get paramedics to them from halfway around the world, there is a bad thing.. like the article states.

    medication is a good thing... harrass your friends to go see a doc if you think they are seriously depressed
     
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    whatever happened to being happy with just jacking off over the internet? nobody gets hurt...
     
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    Fucking hell that man was fucked up. Should of seen a shrink or got some pills.
     
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    Again? or is this the case from awhile ago? Tragic... but I doubt they did it alone. He must have had some issues.
     
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