Cheating Women?

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With due respect to the OP I think it's impossible for him to be giving us the full story. When a person is in a highly charged, emotional situation it is really hard to see the other person's side of the story. Of course this is total speculation, but I expect were his wife to read this thread she would counter with her own anecdotes of (perhaps) inattentiveness, bad temper, verbal abuse, etc. from him. It isn't completely outside the realms of possibility that she is just a total bitch, but it is far more likely that they are both ordinary people under stress who fight and hurt each other.

It is very difficult, especially if one party is hostile to it, but communication is the only way to solve this. You say a counselor helped you through issues before - perhaps it is time to try that again.
 
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There is more to a relationship than sex, but a lot of a relationship is reflected by the sex within it. The story sounds awful, but what would the wife tell us? How helpful is he in day to day tasks? How romantic is he? How loving is he? When was the last time he did something special for her?

Women do love to be loved, and will often respond to love and romance with good sex. Unless, of course, the couple is so mis-matched that they should never have gotten together in the first place. If this is the case, when the relationship is dreary and grey, a lifetime of suffering is not worth it. Leave, and find some worthwhile love.
 

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Female primates are hard-wired to be promiscuous. In all apes, testicle-weight as a ratio to male body-weight correlates with the frequency of female “extra-pair copulations.” Remember this scientific principle: The sluttier the females, the bigger the balls.

So where do Homo sapiens females fall on the Slut Scale? Let’s check the ball barometer of other apes.
Gorillas have teeny weeny testicles. But they have big shoulders, fangs, and brow ridges. The competition goes on between the big beasts. Sperm can take it easy. There’s no selection pressure for them to compete with other sperm, because nobody has sex with an alpha male’s female without killing the alpha male. Female gorillas are faithful to the promiscuous alpha male. As a result, gorilla sperm can barely figure out which way to swim. Under the microscope, chimp sperm look like Patton’s D-Day, and gorilla sperm look like Hogan’s Heros. The male gorilla only gets to mate a couple times a year at most, and his teensy testicles are all he needs to get the job done.
The orangutan male-to-testicle ratio is slightly bigger than the gorilla’s to account for the rare instance of a two-timing female orangutan.
Look at you, you big ape. Yes, I’m talking to you, Homo sapiens male. What ornaments do you have to distinguish you from a female? Feeble knuckles, slightly more upper body strength, a beard, an ability to read maps, a refusal to use this ability.
Now look at your testicles. Compared to more monogamous apes, yours are huge.
Like your brain. Which co-evolved to impress the big brains of females, which co-evolved to impress your big brain. Everything big on you, Homo sapiens male, is big by female choice. Your brain is to wow her with your creations. Your oversized penis—humongous compared to other apes—is to please her sexually. Your balls …
… well, your balls are just big enough to suggest that while you were out hunting on the savanna, back on the Pleistocene homestead, women were having a ball. And, depressingly for the Homo Sapien male, they still are.

So, in short - there is nothing you can do to stop this natural hard-wired need to cheat in women, save actually catch them at it. Women have evolved strategies to avoid being caught. They are excellent liars. Although they are all unfaithful at some stage, it is only the most incompetent or unlucky ones who get caught. Deal with it and move on - and try to accept that you cannot change 50,000 years of evolution in Homo Sapiens.

[Short, R.V. (1979) “Sexual selection and its component parts, somatic and genital selection, as illustrated in man and great apes.” Advances in the Study of Behavior 9: 131-158]
[Short, R.V. (1981) “Testes weight, body weight, and breeding systems in primates.” Nature, 293, 55.]
[Baker, R. and M.A. Bellis. (1995) Human Sperm Competition, Copulation, Masturbation, and Infidelity. Chapman and Hall]
[Buss, D.M. 1994. The Evolution of Desire: Strategies in Human Mating. New York: Basic Books.]
 

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Good grief! Are all men CRAZY?!! (I can't believe some of these responses)

Your wife has THREE KIDS!!! And they're YOUNG, which means they are a LOT of work. She also WORKS OUTSIDE THE HOME ON A JOB.

She is probably exhausted, stressed out and everything else. Unfortunately, for most working mothers -- especially ones with multiple young children -- being the "girlfriend" becomes the lowest priority.
If being the girlfriend is such a low priority due to exhaustion, please explain why she would attempt the role with an additional man. Twice! Wouldn't a third party at a separate location, with additional expectations/requirements and who had to be kept secret be considerably more exhausting?

Are you crazy or just disinclined to read the entirety of the opening post?
 

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Shit like this is why marriage is such a turn off to me! Dude you are so screwed! You have got three kids and are married to a sly whore and no amount of counseling is going to fix her problem. Basicly if she is a whore she is always gonna be a whore no matter how good u are in bed! The problem is with her not you.

Yeah you need to get the hell of that marriage ASAP!


Now hes doomed to have partial custody and pay child support for 3 kids. I cant wait until court they actually favor a guy in a divorce case. If I was you I would be long gone anyways tho. Because shes done it twice.. and thats just to your knowledge. She is just waiting for her next opportunity.

Also.. noone abuses me. Noone. My mom told me if a girl ever Tee's off on you to hit her back.
 
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She is just waiting for her next opportunity
Presuming she hasn't already found one.

I'm sorry for being negative on this but while I can understand how rough waters in a relationship might cause someone to take a splash, I would also expect serious effort to find the causes and repair the damage if possible to build a stronger future. You did try that with counselling but she's had a second splash and spent quite some time in that water.

She's back with you but showing no signs of connecting with you. It doesn't bode well for the future.
 

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Good grief! Are all men CRAZY?!! (I can't believe some of these responses)

Your wife has THREE KIDS!!! And they're YOUNG, which means they are a LOT of work. She also WORKS OUTSIDE THE HOME ON A JOB.

She is probably exhausted, stressed out and everything else. Unfortunately, for most working mothers -- especially ones with multiple young children -- being the "girlfriend" becomes the lowest priority.

You have three choices:

(a) Quit your job and stay home and cook and clean and take care of all the kid stuff so that your wife doesn't have to worry about it when she gets home.

(b) Have her quit her job and stay home until all three kids are in second grade (or, even better, middle or high school). You'll have to give up a few perks, but at least you'll have sex.

(c) If you can't do either one of the above, then TAKE HER UP ON HER OFFER TO USE HER BODY. Who knows? Maybe she even gets off on that. If she is repressed sexually (religion, whatever), then maybe it's freeing for her to be "taken" like that.

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BTW, I can 't believe you have the NERVE to bitch and complain about this. You are "FORCING" her to have sex the way YOU want her to have it, and you aren't taking her up on her offer and compromise.

Yes, I have three children so I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Unless you figure out a way of reducing or sharing her burden, you're shit out of luck until those kids are older.

SO QUIT WHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is why I start to have less and less respect for women. You got her back on this?!?!

Listen toots, no matter how exhausted she might have been from all the hard work and bla bla. It is no excuse to treat her husband the way that she did.

Court has got the womens back too, it's incredibly unfair.

Whatever problems she could have had she had to talk about it with her husband.

Why the F do women want to get married anyway IT SURE AINT FOR THE EMOTIONAL BOND apparently.

Seriously, I know it's somewhat ignorant, but I think they are all sluts and cant be trusted.

I'm rooting for you dude, if you stay for the kids I think you deserve a medal. Although it's better for yourself that you leave and hope she ain't greedy.

Marriage doesn't mean a thing anymore after this, so why stay married.
 

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It's his attitude towards her that kills everything in the relationship,( well now anyway )
there is noway its not shining though for her to see and the kids now think if dad does it so can we, and you wonder why she has problems with them and lacks the will to do anything.(shes given up,resigned her self to the life that awaits that's why you can have sex even when its cold sex )
i really doubt that her affairs were sex based, more likely it was emotionally based ( could she had/still have some sort of depression ? did you always referrer to her as a airhead?did you always attack her self esteem? i wounder )

Op have a good look at your self, if the words you have put down here are anything to go by ( and there are because it's just you telling the story )
then it's no wonder your in trouble, mate take it for some that's been there and done that, i have been with my wife for nearly 25 years and we have seen our share of crap.
If you really want to make it better then stop the stone throwing and start to make every day from to day count. Make the effort to except her for who she is not what you think she should be. it will take time but things will get better, if you don't want to stay then don't but please dude stop blaming her for every thing ( that does not mean you have to put up with being abused,)
I really think that both man and woman can be very hurtful when they want to be.
I'm not sticking up for your wife, she needs to take account for her part as well.
if she was on the site i would tell her the same or what was relevant to her side of the story.

Nicky9x6 about the theory of evaluation, no don't worry i for got it's just a theory.
 

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I have alot of respect for women that don't cheat, I would rather a woman ask me if we can have sex with a man in our bed. I'm not anything to brag about when it comes to my dick, but I can eat the fuck out of pussy and ass, and so I think that's where women fall i n love with me, but eventually they yearn for a big cock, and I can't blame'em. I like big cocks too. But I respect it when they're honest with me and tell me the truth.
 

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Lol ok.

Cheating is out of the question for me
Asking for bigger cock is too

WTH are these issues? Has nothing to do with showing love. It's self interest.

Why couldn't a woman live without a big dick?

Seems allthemore reason for me to treat them like sex objects... and if they're fat there not worth looking at. Hey don't blame me. I didn't create this environment, they did.

I wanted to treat them as normal people but noooo.
K i'll quit posting my frustration
 

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Good grief! Are all men CRAZY?!! (I can't believe some of these responses)

Your wife has THREE KIDS!!! And they're YOUNG, which means they are a LOT of work. She also WORKS OUTSIDE THE HOME ON A JOB.

She is probably exhausted, stressed out and everything else. Unfortunately, for most working mothers -- especially ones with multiple young children -- being the "girlfriend" becomes the lowest priority.

You have three choices:

(a) Quit your job and stay home and cook and clean and take care of all the kid stuff so that your wife doesn't have to worry about it when she gets home.

(b) Have her quit her job and stay home until all three kids are in second grade (or, even better, middle or high school). You'll have to give up a few perks, but at least you'll have sex.

(c) If you can't do either one of the above, then TAKE HER UP ON HER OFFER TO USE HER BODY. Who knows? Maybe she even gets off on that. If she is repressed sexually (religion, whatever), then maybe it's freeing for her to be "taken" like that.

- - - -

BTW, I can 't believe you have the NERVE to bitch and complain about this. You are "FORCING" her to have sex the way YOU want her to have it, and you aren't taking her up on her offer and compromise.

Yes, I have three children so I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Unless you figure out a way of reducing or sharing her burden, you're shit out of luck until those kids are older.

SO QUIT WHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So, I guess all that somehow justifys her cheating and disregard for his feelings eh?
 

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hey OP why didnt you tell us the full story? i found you on TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-54qjy-aB4&NR=1


Hey thanks!!!

I know my kids are mine. Especially my last 2. They are both boys and if you look at my childhood pictures, my boys look just like me. My daughter looks like her mom, but has a lot of my features as well. And she wouldn't even be a question if she was or wasn't mine.
 

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To the OP:

Get paternity tests asap. Once you know how many kids you'll actually be paying for go ahead and divorce her ass. That's all there is to it.

For those that don't know about the risks, when infidelity is suspected there's a 33% chance a child isn't the dad's based on paternity fraud research. So if the wife cheated then odds are 1 of his 3 kids isn't actually his! Furthermore, there are about 4.2 million births per year in the US, so even at 10% non-paternity, which is the generally accepted rate, (but it could be as high as 30%) that’s 420,000 men and children being lied to per year. About 4% of the 10% of PD cases the men find out, so of the remaining estimated 6% that never know that’s roughly 4,284,000 American men with children under the age of 18 unknowingly raising some other man’s child. I think it’s fair to say the men and kids are victims year after year as they’re living a lie. Not to mention how many men who are fathers but don’t know and are being defrauded of their right to parenthood.

Long story short, most women cheat. Remember, these figures are known births because the women went outside the relationship. The numbers for women cheating and not getting knocked up are even higher and best estimates put the figures of women that admit to cheating somewhere between 50-80%.

Some more excellent reading on the subject:

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4402

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4405

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4403

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4407

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4411

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=4413

http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/meet-the-real-biggest-losers/




Now, on to the part about the lack of sex:

http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/relationships-kill-sex/

Quite frankly it could be what the research suggests about her focus being on the kids and that her instincts have shifted. However, women looking to the outside of the relationship for fulfillment could be occurring. Some call it emotional cheating. Based on the history of cheating it's not unreasonable to think she's got male friends hovering around basically sucking up to her and doing favors and giving her all the validation and attention in the world. If that's the case then that needs to stop. She needs to be getting that from you and only you. That will redirect her desires and gratitude and put the focus where it belongs. If it's not her focus shifting to the kids, and it's not her getting her emotional fulfillment from other guys, then it's possible she's got a sexual disorder of some sort that results in lack of libido. Lukily for you that a female equivalent to viagra will be out soon.

It's still my opinion to you divorce the slut asap.
 
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