China is drilling for oil less than 60 miles from Florida

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  1. Wyldgusechaz

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    We live in a very wacky world when it comes to energy poilicy but this takes the prize. China is drilling in offshore Cuba for oil. :eek:

    We have 10.4 billion barrels of oil in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge. The Outer Continental Shelf is estimated to have 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. The OCS has 1.86 billion acres and 97% are undeveloped. Norway and Denmark and the UK can drill offshore, we cannot.

    We have 1.8 trillion barrels of oil in shale. Thats 2 centuries of use as it stands today. Most Alaska and our off shore lands have not been even seismic tested with modern equipment since the '60s cause its agains the law. Who knows how much oil we have?

    We did not leak one teaspoon of oil in the Gulf of Mexico when Katrina hit even tho several terminals were flattened.

    We show oil speculators we are serious about finding new domestic oil and those guys will get out of the speculation business and oil will fall in cost.

    Are you green or are you practical?
     
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    Lol next thing you know, we're going to be hearing "Today President Bush declined a meeting with Saudis"
     
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    When I was a kid, and we had family vacation with grandma at Fort Lauderdale, I remember it was common to get big blotches of tar on your feel when romping on the beach and in the water. In fact, it was so bad that they kept a gallon or kerosene by the steps at the end of the boardwalk that you used to remove the tar globs.

    I havent been to Florida's beaches in ages. Is it still like that? I wonder where that tar came from? Oil drilling in the Gulf?
     
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    There's a news clip of El Busho on the BBC here in Spain where someone in the Press Corps asks him about what he thinks now that gasoline has risen above $4 a gallon. He responds with, "What? Who said that? I haven't heard anything about THAT!" LOL! Just love it. They keep replaying it and replaying it. What a clue less tool.
     
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    Makes you wonder if the cluelessness is an act and a lot of the Neocons know exactly what is going on with the global warming and the infrastructure failing--and they're gathering enough cash and land and weapons to ride it out until it's safe to poke their heads out of the bunker.
     
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    exwhysee, the tarballs came from ships. As I understand it, from bilge water that is pumped out. The water contains trace amounts fuel oil. I believe most ships now have separators to catch the oil.
     
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    We should have been drilling there years ago. Whats up with that
     
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    No, they aren't.

    This appears to be another GOP smokescreen to bolster their claims that we must begin drilling in the ANWR or off the Floridian coast.

    Independent critical analysis, people. Sift through all the bullshit and find the truth for yourselves.
     
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    i think we shuld make all these tree hugging hippies pick up our gas tabs... all these assholes that are against drilling in alaska , let them split the gas bill with us.. $5 a gallon soon,, let them pay $2-3 of each gallon for us... fuckin tree hugging assholes
     
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    Duped again.
    Cheney is such a Big Fat Liar.

    This comment after the article is perfect-
    "The Chinese are drilling in Cuba because...they know that's REALLY where Saddam hid the weapons of mass destruction!"
     
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    deliberate dumping and accidental oil spills.:rolleyes:
     
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    China or Japan owns the Chrysler building the flat iron building and now trying to buy Budweiser, whats new?
     
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    China drilling 60km of US coast? USA drilling IN your country for the last 60 years! Middle east, South America, Africa... PAYBACK!
    Get used to being not the biggest kid on the block
     
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    We could also be getting power from windmill type generators on and off land.
    Florida's Governor recently claimed that the tourist didn't want to see oil drilling platforms in the Gulf Of Mexico. Hell, if something isn't done soon about escalating has prices, there won't be many tourist going there.
     
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    Ft Lauderdale is on the Atlantic, not Gulf side of the peninsula. Whatever they were, the globs were not from drilling in the gulf (at least not directly).

    East coast beaches in SoFla are still a marvel: some of the finest in the world.

    False premise, wrong question: we can be both.

    And how practical could life really be with no concern for our impact on the environment? Raw polemics suck ass.
     
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    As Americans, we're still in that mindset of drilling anywhere to get our oil "fix".
    We should be looking to alternative fuel solutions that do no damage to the environment.
    We keep looking for new oil reserves to drill into, and not explore the possibilities of phasing out the fossil fuel agenda. WE ARE DESTROYING THIS PLANET, in order to get in our cars to drive a few blocks to McDonald's !!!!
    Just as long as oil is the convenient source, we refuse to explore any other solutions.
    I am embarrassed and ashamed that my country steadfastly sticks to the old program of oil and coal being the only way to go.
    Meanwhile we are devastating the land and polluting the air, driving other species into oblivion just for conveniences sake.
    We have overlooked or outright ignored scientific solutions and suggestions because we can still wring more oil out of this planet; and eventually, we will all be paying the bill for this ignorance.
     
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    I think you're forgetting that China, Russia, the UK, India, and every other half-way developed country are just as responsible...
     
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    In the words of my mother, " If everyone else goes and jumps off a bridge, are you going to follow along?"
    Forget about placing blame on all the other countries that are doing it too. WE need to take the lead here and start pushing to become fossil fuel free as soon as possible.
    We are, by far, the biggest consumer of fossil fuels in the world and yet we are only 14% of it's population.
    Far sooner than we can imagine, the day is coming for earth to become uninhabitable. Not just for humans, but for most every specie on this planet.......and it is all preventable.
    The U.S. needs to be the point man on this project.
     
  19. lucky8

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    I agree, it would be in our country's best interest to be one of the first energy independent countries, but that isn't going to happen over night, not in America at least. The WIDESREAD public concern over this issue has only been on the table for MAYBE 5 or 6 years, that's hardly enough time for the development of truly revolutionary techology. Take "hybrid" cars for example. They use a new technology, but it isn't a good enough to cause a large enough demand in the market for companies to make a profit, or for an entire nation to say "OK, now THIS is a good product" like gasoline powered automobile did when they were introduced to the market. The only way for this to happen relatively quick is for the government to mandate certain specifications to auto manufacturers, but the problem with this is again, there hasn't been a technology developed yet that is good enough to solve the problem.

    Yes, our government could invest money into developing new techonologies, and they are, but the problem with creating a government program for this is that many government programs flat out suck. Leaving this problem to the entrepreneurs, chemists, physicists, and the such of this country will produce far better results than any government ran program.

    And then we have to remember that once a viable new technology has been discovered and implemented in new vehicles, it is going to take AT LEAST 10 years for the entire American market to respond. No matter how this problem is handled, it is going to take at least 15-20 years for this country to become energy independent.

    ...not to mention once we find a solution, it isn't going to solve a worldwide problem. Shit, half of the world is still living like America was in the year 1890...just imagine how long it is going to take some of these countries to change, especially the poor ones who will being receiving all of our old cars...
     
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    In his mild defense, it's still just under $4 (between $3.80 and $3.90) for a gallon of regular unleaded in many areas. Granted, I'd bet that it's above $4 in DC though.
     
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