wonderfully said, sk_bum. and, good for you and your wife, i know how hard it can be. i think both what you and your wife and holly and TM are doing are equally difficult and equally respectble.
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:tragedy: Sorry to hear the bad news...I hope the best for you both in your new life journey's. I am also looking foreward to your insightful views of your new experinces being single... Best wishes Holly Blue :kiss:
There's no reason to apologize for life happening... Everything happens for a reason, and there are always positive lessons to learn from everything. It's a new day in both of your lives... make the best of it. 
Hard to see two of my favorite people at LPSG go through the ending of a marriage. I have come to appreciate both of you so much. I wish you both happiness. My thoughts are with both of you. Sam
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You have shared so much. This is so personal. And though I've said a few things to you, you and youur husbands are complete strangers to me. As such, I am touched by your candor, and I thank you.
I'll pray for you both. I hope you both can grow from this and find happiness.
I'll pray for you both. I hope you both can grow from this and find happiness.
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My God. If I quoted all of the moving, comforting, empowering, and insightful posts on this thread, I would be quoting the whole thread all over again.
I am deeply touched. I really was concerned that people would judge me...now I see I was completely wrong.
I was worried about my Dad and Stepmom, also (they are very religious and don't believe in divorce), but my Dad, immediately upon hearing the news, said he wanted to reassure me that his love for me was unconditional, and that there would be no judgment whatsoever. When I heard that, I was bawling my eyes out so hard I couldn't speak. My stepmom said that she knows we tried, and tried, and tried (she's one of the few people who's seen all of the relationship's not-so-fabulous parts over the years). She said she is glad we decided to do it now, rather than later.
One of the reasons I was so moved by my Dad's reaction was that he was so, so different when I was growing up. I knew he had grown and changed, and that he was sorry for the mistakes he made back then, but his support of me now is proof that he really is different. It gives me faith that we all have the ability to grow and change for the better.
Anyway, I almost can't express how relieved I am to find out that people in my life, including LPSG members, are accepting me despite my not being perfect. You'd think I'd be done thinking I need to be perfect by now, but oh well. I'll get there.
I want to let you know that I would have been on the site more in the last 24 hours (and corrected my accidental sex change):redface: , but I was in the process of travelling and am now in California on business (and, unfortunately, having a bout of insomnia). Yesterday before I left, I was catching up on domestic stuff. There will be a lot to do in the next weeks as I am moving out and he is staying in the house until it sells. I've accumulated loads of junk over the years -- far more than will fit in my apartment. So I've got my work cut out for me.
If I'm not on here as much, it's not because I don't want to be. I find LPSG more interesting and entertaining than television or most other things I could do with my free time. I hang out here because it is fascinating and fun for me, and, as I have said before, there are not only a lot of gorgeous bodies on this site; there are also a lot of gorgeous minds.
And, apparently, a lot of gorgeous hearts.
I am deeply touched. I really was concerned that people would judge me...now I see I was completely wrong.
I was worried about my Dad and Stepmom, also (they are very religious and don't believe in divorce), but my Dad, immediately upon hearing the news, said he wanted to reassure me that his love for me was unconditional, and that there would be no judgment whatsoever. When I heard that, I was bawling my eyes out so hard I couldn't speak. My stepmom said that she knows we tried, and tried, and tried (she's one of the few people who's seen all of the relationship's not-so-fabulous parts over the years). She said she is glad we decided to do it now, rather than later.
One of the reasons I was so moved by my Dad's reaction was that he was so, so different when I was growing up. I knew he had grown and changed, and that he was sorry for the mistakes he made back then, but his support of me now is proof that he really is different. It gives me faith that we all have the ability to grow and change for the better.
Anyway, I almost can't express how relieved I am to find out that people in my life, including LPSG members, are accepting me despite my not being perfect.
You'd think I'd be done thinking I need to be perfect by now, but oh well. I'll get there.I want to let you know that I would have been on the site more in the last 24 hours (and corrected my accidental sex change):redface: , but I was in the process of travelling and am now in California on business (and, unfortunately, having a bout of insomnia). Yesterday before I left, I was catching up on domestic stuff. There will be a lot to do in the next weeks as I am moving out and he is staying in the house until it sells. I've accumulated loads of junk over the years -- far more than will fit in my apartment. So I've got my work cut out for me.
If I'm not on here as much, it's not because I don't want to be. I find LPSG more interesting and entertaining than television or most other things I could do with my free time. I hang out here because it is fascinating and fun for me, and, as I have said before, there are not only a lot of gorgeous bodies on this site; there are also a lot of gorgeous minds.
And, apparently, a lot of gorgeous hearts.
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there are not only a lot of gorgeous bodies on this site; there are also a lot of gorgeous minds.
And, apparently, a lot of gorgeous hearts.
Made all the moreso inspired by yours.
Now for a useless imperative from one insomniac to another: get some sleep! :wink:
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I'm very sorry to hear about your break-up with Toolman and I'm sorry I didn't read it on this thread prior to my other post. Life works in mysterious ways, not always happy.
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I too am sorry your marriage is ending, for too many reasons to go into detail about here.
Your apology seems to have been for representing your marriage as more successful than it was. I certainly am always one for being as honest as possible, but one also has to consider the power of positive words and expectations. If we quickly and honestly tell all that is wrong, we sometimes preclude the possibility of much that can be good. In short, I don't see it as dishonest to describe what can be sometimes before it actually happens, but when it is clearly not going to happen, one does have to move forward with honesty and integrity. You were giving it a good go, and that has to count for something.
I wish you both the best possible next phases of your metamorphoses.
Your apology seems to have been for representing your marriage as more successful than it was. I certainly am always one for being as honest as possible, but one also has to consider the power of positive words and expectations. If we quickly and honestly tell all that is wrong, we sometimes preclude the possibility of much that can be good. In short, I don't see it as dishonest to describe what can be sometimes before it actually happens, but when it is clearly not going to happen, one does have to move forward with honesty and integrity. You were giving it a good go, and that has to count for something.
I wish you both the best possible next phases of your metamorphoses.
Hello HollyBlue,
I don't post very often but I would just like to say a couple things.
Firstly, you have nothing to be ashamed of or worried about. Your honesty and goodheartedness about the matter just shows what a kind and beautiful woman you really are. Secondly, a woman of your caliber is rare indeed and I can only hope that you will find what you most definitely deserve - happiness.:biggrin1:
Respectfully,
Chris
I don't post very often but I would just like to say a couple things.
Firstly, you have nothing to be ashamed of or worried about. Your honesty and goodheartedness about the matter just shows what a kind and beautiful woman you really are. Secondly, a woman of your caliber is rare indeed and I can only hope that you will find what you most definitely deserve - happiness.:biggrin1:
Respectfully,
Chris
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