Circlejerks while a female was present

[B_Guy Love]

Like I mentioned earlier, you are sort of "regressing" here.

Anyway, I've heard that this sort of thing is very common for males in their pre-puberty stage. During this stage, males will do things that, after puberty, may be seen as "gay," but before puberty it is just fun and games. (There is the theory among some that gay and bisexual men are in fact at some level stuck at this pre-puberty stage, which is why they continue these activities. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this view. I'm just saying that it's a view some psychologists have.)

As to the definition of circle jerks, I think that strictly speaking they are a situation where guys sit in a circle and beat off and the winner is the first one to come. Strictly speaking, doesn't sound like this is a circle jerk, but a bunch of guys beating off together. I think it happens quite often, actually.

 

[lacuna22]

Take a large dose of the shut the fuck up would ya... Or at least mind your damn manners!

oh, the irony.

 

[jack99821]

I've been in multiple-guy-one-girl situations plenty, but never a circle jerk with the girl just watching. Guy Love brings up some good questions. I wonder what Kinsey would have to say about it?

And PS, Dolfette, while I totally agree that grown men shouldn't fantasize about 12 year-olds, I really think he was talking about how it felt at the time, not now. I don't really see the issue, they were all close in age, nothing was forced on anyone, they were just experimenting a bit. There wasn't even physical contact. He was saying it made the circle jerk much more intense *at the time* knowing and seeing that she was into it.

And besides, even if he is fantasizing about it, it's still fantasizing about past experience when all of them were kids, not about grown men stroking in front of a 12 y/o. He's thinking about it in terms of the age he was when it happened, much like someone looking back on their first time. If someone was 16 and his girlfriend was 15 the first time they had sex, and the guy thought about it and brought it up for discussion years later, that hardly means he wants to fuck a teenager. In a memories, you are the age you were when it happened, after all, not the age you were when you recalled it.

 

[dolfette]

And PS, Dolfette, while I totally agree that grown men shouldn't fantasize about 12 year-olds, I really think he was talking about how it felt at the time, not now. I don't really see the issue, they were all close in age, nothing was forced on anyone, they were just experimenting a bit. There wasn't even physical contact. He was saying it made the circle jerk much more intense *at the time* knowing and seeing that she was into it.

And besides, even if he is fantasizing about it, it's still fantasizing about past experience when all of them were kids, not about grown men stroking in front of a 12 y/o. He's thinking about it in terms of the age he was when it happened, much like someone looking back on their first time. If someone was 16 and his girlfriend was 15 the first time they had sex, and the guy thought about it and brought it up for discussion years later, that hardly means he wants to fuck a teenager. In a memories, you are the age you were when it happened, after all, not the age you were when you recalled it.

post 3 i think. wanting to know more about the girl.
didn't even mention the guys, his own experiences. just wanted to know about the girl.
was that his teenage self asking for details about the child? no frickin' way!

it was sick.

 

[lacuna22]

it was sick.

of course this site should never tolerate blatant pedophelia.

but it IS possible that the original post triggered memories of his first experiences with girls around that age and he was projecting thoughts within that context.

just saying it's possible. and on this site, i think at least benefit of the doubt should be given or you could initiate dialogue with that person rather than just stigmatizing someone so harshly and reactively.

 

[Principessa]

I suppose I had interpreted that they as their 12-year-old selves were speculating about how she as her 12-year-old self was turned on.

In other words, I had interpreted that they were talking about their own feelings at the time.

Hmm, thats what I thought too. Guess I was wrong. :redface:

This would be illegal now, but in college as part of a frat initiation, six of us had to j/o together with several of the sister sorority girls looking on. They also were to measure us. Yes, this was embarrasing. A few days later we had to lie naked while the sisters shaved our pubes and nuts. Now that was scary. But we got bjs afterward, so that was ok.

Your experience was fairly common back in the early/mid 80's...at least where I went to school. Hmm, thats yet another reason why I never pledged. I say who, I say when. I don't suck just anybodys cock.

 

[yngjock20]

I know I'm not straight, but I'd still have a problem with jerking off in front of someone I knew...guy or girl. Perfect stranger situation, I'd still be uncomfortable around the girl.

 

[Boobalaa]

am i the only one who finds it kinda gross, grown men talking about the sexual thrills of a 12y/o???

it's one thing to look back at your own feelings & get turned on.

it's quite another to look back, as adult men, and get turned on by what you think she was feeling.

12y/o ffs!

Yeah..It's like remembering the first time you found out what your clitoris was for..:biggrin1:..speaking of which..My first 'circle jerk..well there were only 3 of us, 2 with cocks that is..We were all "adolescent pubescent"..hormone raging lil people experimenting..My 15 yo cousin showed us her nice big tits and let my cousin and i take turns with her and then together..As the fun was winding down, she blurted out that famous cliche'..'I showed you mine, now you show me yours"..which was easy for us, because we were already jacking off regularly with one another and we told her this as we watched her watch us..and let her know that we always fantasized about her..as we spurted thick ropy cum all over her big pink areoles..

 

[ruffboy]

your experience is rare for sure i'd guess, all those guys, playboys, circle jerks WITH a willing lady present. but the desire, not so rare i'd think. i know i'd LOVE to do that ;-)

 

[jack99821]

post 3 i think. wanting to know more about the girl.
didn't even mention the guys, his own experiences. just wanted to know about the girl.
was that his teenage self asking for details about the child? no frickin' way!

it was sick.

Ahh, I gotcha. I was talking about the first guy to post, not the outside party asking about her. I'm with ya on that one.

 

[superswinger]

The thing thats wired is I think it gave me a fetish for CFNM. I should say I know it did. Back then I use to cover up at first, back turned towards the wall, or magazine covering my dick. After time and watching other guys jerking off in the open, I did to. I use to jerk right in front of her and she would watch me the whole time. Cumming in front of her was very intense.

After a while I would just act like I was looking at the magazine but watch her the whole time. Sometimes she would smile or laugh when we would shake or tremble. She made comments about our faces looking funny. She would also ask us questions about the women in the magazines. Who was hot and why we liked her, which women was the hottest,and why. Sometimes multiable dicks would be out in front of her and her eyes would be darting back and forth, checking them all out. I use to love spurrting in front of her.

I developed a huge CFNM fetish, even though that word was not always around. I have always liked to jerk in front of women since those days. Although it has never been as intense, as back then. Teenage hormones is kind of strange, because at 16, I would have never done that, but 13, I didnt even give it a second thought and went right into jerking off.

Im surprised it hasnt happened to others in this way. Im not surprised by guys jerking off to porn together, because I have done that also, with no girls around. It just seemd like no big deal to me.

I just figured that most nieghborhoods where like mine. Tom-boy who skated with us and always around, who was a good friend of the group.

I just wanted to discuss this issue with you guys. I did not mean to start a war, or bring any wierd feelings out about young girls. looking back I dont see her as young. i see her as the same age as I back then. Just memories of intense masturbation sessions.

 

[D_Tintagel_Demondong]

when they start getting into how turned on SHE might have been, at 12y/o
, as adult men that's just fucking gross.

I first had sex at the age of 12 with a 12 year-old-girl. It wasn't great sex, but it was technically sex.

Even though it was a disaster, I have a few fond memories of fucking her. Since she was 12 at the time, does that make me a pedophile? Does that make me "fucking gross?"

 

[Charles Finn]

I was in my twenties at the time a bunch of us all in our twenties were fooling around in a room with a girl watching he was a lesbian so it was cool she acted just like one of the guys but she kept her clothes on.
she was the one watching the door to make sure no one unwanted came in

 

[jjsuperbird]

Boy do I feel stupid.

I had no idea the original post had anything to do with pedophelia. The thought never crossed my mind.

I'm grossed out by pedophelia. The moderators should immediately delete this thread if it in anyway promotes or encourages illegal activity!

Having said that, I thought the original post was a straight forward question about the sociology and psychology of sexual maturation and young guys and young girls sharing early sexual experiences and sexual exploration.

I understood the original question to be about whether anyone knew about girls watching guys *of a similar age* in acts of sexual exploration (in this case a circle jerk). I took the question at face value.

I thought this story about a local tomboy watching five other neighbourhood friends was highly unusual. I don't believe that girls are in anyway interested in or attracted to watching a bunch of young guys circle jerk. Nevertheless, if some young girl shares sexual experiences and explorations with friends *of a similar age* then what happens as they get older?

Do they continue to mature together? Does the girl become attracted to one of the participants because of his particular physical attributes or his personality? Does the female become the girlfriend of one and shun the rest? Does she become more or less sexually interested? Does she become grossed out by guys acting like pack animals?

How does the psychology of the individual become affected by the actions of the group?

What is the psychology of the group? What do the guys think of the girl?

That is what the question prompted me to think about.

I thought this series of questions about what happens to the people in the original post might provide for an interesting story about human sexuality and the personal growth of the individuals involved?

If this thread was interpreted as some type of clever attempt to discuss pedophelia then I want no part of it.

I was tricked and shame on me.

Of course, if someone who posts several dozen photographs on the internet of themselves naked feels they are in some position of moral superiority to the rest of us then maybe I really don't understand the purpose of this "Support" forum.

JJ

 

[dolfette]

Of course, if someone who posts several dozen photographs on the internet of themselves naked feels they are in some position of moral superiority to the rest of us then maybe I really don't understand the purpose of this "Support" forum.

JJ

this amuses the hell outa me.

nudity is a sin! a sin!

and you asked none of those questions in your first post.
the tone of your first post inspired some creepy "i want to know more about the girl" reaction.
because it must've been reall thrilling for her?

naked pics, LMAO.

 

[jjsuperbird]

The purpose of that sentence was to amuse... I give you credit for that.:smile:

Your assumption that the question posed was a request for pedophilia is what surprised me. All of us on this site are exploring sexuality in various ways with photographs, fictional stories, roll playing, intellectual questioning, chat and many different forms of expression. We should be encouraging and supportive but guard against illegal activity. On that I think we all agree.

I am not sure I agree with your automatic conclusion that the sentence from the second post "I want to know more about the girl" is a request for pedophilia. if that is what the question was designed to illicit, then I agree with you completely.

Pedophilia is wrong. It is gross and should be stopped immediately because we should not be condoning that type of inquiry on this site or on any site!

However, as others have tried to point out in this thread, if it is pedophilia to ask about a 12 year old girl then it is pedophilia to ask about 12 year old boys. Why are you not equally outraged about the reference to the boys? If it is the age of 12 that bothers, and it is a disguised request for pedophilia then the whole thread should be deleted.

Dolfette, I believe we are more in agreement than disagreement on what are the bounds of acceptability. Pedophilia is wrong and should not be tolerated on this site -- whether it is little boys or little girls.

The point I'm trying to make is that, in my opinion, the age of the people in the original post was significant because of all the interesting sociological and psychological questions it raised in my mind. Not because of some perverse (and illegal) sexual interest.

By the way, I hope you don't think I'm a pervert because I like your pictures :smile:

Well, maybe I am a pervert, but it isn't illegal. :wink:

 

[jjsuperbird]

What this thread has prompted me to do is Google pedophilia -- thank you spell check -- I spelled it incorrectly in an earlier post.

I find this whole subject disturbing and personally repulsive and am trying to figure out why this thread has prompted such a visceral reaction from me. I was shocked to think that I somehow was contributing to something which is so personally disturbing and repulsive.

There are many unfortunate and upsetting stories about people who have been psychologically and physically damaged by such behavior. Too many stories.

Young people who are victims of sexual predators, damaged by such behavior, must be protected.

This is the crux of the matter. A young person who is in a subservient or vulnerable position to an adult is a victim. It is disturbing if they are preyed upon and damaged by this disgusting behaviour. That goes equally for under-aged girls as well as under-aged boys.

I thank Dolfette for prompting me to think more about what is acceptable and what is not acceptable in society. And to caution all of us on this site not to slide down a slippery slope of feeding and supporting these predators.

Nude pictures of consenting adults, erotic stories and sexual chat on line should be tolerated (if not completely accepted) by everyone. Preying on children is totally unacceptable and should not be tolerated for any reason.

How we provide freedom of expression for sexual exploration between consenting adults while never tolerating or feeding any desires to prey on the young is a debate in which we all must engage.

sorry for climbing on a soap box. But Dolfette has challenged us to think about this. And we shouldn't dismiss her valid concern.

JJ

 

[dolfette]

sorry for climbing on a soap box. But Dolfette has challenged us to think about this. And we shouldn't dismiss her valid concern.

JJ

i'll freely admit that i veer towards the paranoid on this topic...but my own daughter isn't much younger than that.

i still think post 3 was creepy as hell!
sicko. still.

 

[B_capslock]

12y/o info enough?

Dolfette, being a woman, I can see how this would especially offend you. However, I think this is resonating with the men here in regards to that time in your youth when you were discovering youself. Its like first time virginity stories, where its not like the people are craving 16 year olds, they are just recalling that time in their youth.

 

[Shelby]

Yes, we must not commit thoughtcrime!
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