Circumcised Guys: Are you ever jealous or resentful towards Uncut guys?

[chris bell]

It is amazing how these f _ _ king foreskin fetishists & fanatics want to establish hardcore control over every male's penis . They have every intention of creating some sort of civil right for a non-sentient piece of redundant human flesh. The foreskin is NOT self-aware and the head (glans) does NOT contain a brain.

Foreskin is but a very minor piece of the human organ called the skin. If the skin were removed from male skeletal frame and the total surface area were measured, the foreskin would truly be considered insignificant. Further, foreskin can NOT exist standalone but the host body and penis remains fully functional when the foreskin is surgically cut whole or in part. After a vasectomy (the surgical cutting and sealing of part of each vas deferens) the male's orgasm remains unchanged and is not predicated upon an actual or perceived ejaculation of semen. Finally, males who are born with a single testicle or have one testicle surgically removed due to injury or cancer remain fertile, still have erections; and produce an orgasm which remains not predicated upon an actual or perceived ejaculation of semen.

The degree to which the foreskin contributes to the production of a total qualitative and proportionally measured, multi-sensory input for human Mind's perception or experience of an orgasm is highly anecdotal and prejudiced, Anecdotal because un-circumcised males and circumcised males who remain so for their entire lives can only know of the other through observation, tactile touch, research e.g. books, and most often the opinions and prejudices of semi-qualified or unqualified individuals (e,g. women or females, whether medical professionals or not, who remain semi-qualified with their knowledge of the male anatomical components being limited to observation, tactile touch, research e.g. books); and individual, societal, and cultural prejudice of today's single-issue NOCIRC and Intactivist who have chosen to devote the majority of their lives to a fight to save all male foreskins even for the millions of cut males who absolutely do not want a foreskin ever; and just as Nazi Germany had suspicious men "dropping their trousers" in public on the Bahnhofstrasse in many cities, now in the year 2020, it is now Denmark and others talking of Banning Medical Circumcisions with legal consequences. Millions of us males never bonded with our reputed foreskins, we do not think they look like us, we do not think they are looking for us and why don't all of you career penis people find jobs that benefit the poor?

The ring leader of child cutting fan club has weighed in.

 

[Mcuthigh]

no, most uncircumcised penises look really disgusting. its a turn off for me.

Me too Bro!

 

[Mcuthigh]

The ring leader of child cutting fan club has weighed in.

I have tried to tolerate repeated evidence of "Goose-stepping" PeePee fanatics. You just make it too easy. Just because you are truly angry over the result of your surgery, just get it fixed and move on...Start a fund and I will send you a cash contribution. For your sake, I will express my I regret that your Obstetrician got in a hurry or simply was an idiot. That's the point at which a real parent should take control and leadership. But dude you've just got to understand that there are millions of us cut guys who are totally happy just the way we are and we do not want a foreskin nor will many men and our sons who will follow us. Just please get your head (the one with two ears and not the one with balls attached) out or our underwear and go feed the sick and hungry. The world is full of sentient, self-aware humans who are sick and hungry. Don't waste your life on foreskins that may provide a little extra tickle. Sex is such a small piece of a meaningful life and a great orgasm is measured in seconds when you are lucky enough to "get a little". BTW...judging from some of your previous Posts, I take it that you found your way here while browsing for just a Support Group. The rest of your obsession does not fit....or this is all that a bit of a stretch.

 

[Nimajnev]

I have tried to tolerate repeated evidence of "Goose-stepping" PeePee fanatics. You just make it too easy. Just because you are truly angry over the result of your surgery, just get it fixed and move on...Start a fund and I will send you a cash contribution. For your sake, I will express my I regret that your Obstetrician got in a hurry or simply was an idiot. That's the point at which a real parent should take control and leadership. But dude you've just got to understand that there are millions of us cut guys who are totally happy just the way we are and we do not want a foreskin nor will many men and our sons who will follow us. Just please get your head (the one with two ears and not the one with balls attached) out or our underwear and go feed the sick and hungry. The world is full of sentient, self-aware humans who are sick and hungry. Don't waste your life on foreskins that may provide a little extra tickle. Sex is such a small piece of a meaningful life and a great orgasm is measured in seconds when you are lucky enough to "get a little". BTW...judging from some of your previous Posts, I take it that you found your way here while browsing for just a Support Group. The rest of your obsession does not fit....or this is all that a bit of a stretch.

Um. Just to point out - aren't you putting your head in your son's underwear? (Just addressing 'our sons who will follow us.') Suggesting you give your kid a choice in the matter is keeping everyone out of the kid's pants.

I think that's the biggest part. People keep saying it's a choice - but it isn't. I wouldn't choose to have been cut if I had the option, but I didn't.

As an aside, it's not just about sexual gratification. There are potential psychological effects circumcision can have on men - not all, probably not even most, but it's still possible - and emotional distress that can be added to someone. If, as a teenager or what have you, you decide you'd like to have it done, that's perfectly cool. It's your body, you are allowed to do with it what you want. I just think everyone should get that choice - not our parents.

 

[James Bell]

Higher prevalence of STD's? The USA has a higher rate of HIV, AIDS and all STD's than any developed nation in the world. If circumcision prevented these diseases wouldn't all of Europe, South America, Canada, Australia, etc. have higher rates than the US?

I went to Slovenia in 2018 to interview a doctor who did a two year study on the "health benefits" of circumcision and over that two year study he found no difference in STD rates or any bacterial infections between intact and circumcised men.

This is the misinformation spread by the American medical community that causes our high rates of circumcision. I just went through this in July when our son was born. They had no idea what I do for a living and three different people asked if we wanted our son circumcised and all three told us exactly what you just said.

The prevalence of reported STDs in different societies with different populations, different patterns of sexual behaviour and widely differing healthcare systems is entirely meaningless in this context. The only meaningful comparison is between otherwise comparable groups of circumcised and uncircumcised men within the same society. This has been studied extensively: there are literally hundreds of medical publications on the subject in peer reviewed journals showing reduced vulnerability to transmission of HIV (and some other STDs) in circumcised men compared to matched uncircumcised controls.

I regret that I have not been able to find your Slovenian study in Pubmed, but given the very small population and relatively low incidence of circumcision there I would be surprised if the doctor would have been able to recruit a study large enough so have sufficient power to demonstrate a statistically significant difference over so short a time as two years. An underpowered study, of course, proves nothing at all. If you do have the reference please post it.

The view that there are medical benefits to circumcision, including reduced HIV transmission, is not the simply the view of the US medical community; it is increasingly the case in the UK too and historically we don't circumcise routinely here. I'm afraid I don't know what you do for a living, but, as you feel you know more about a medical issue than three doctors, I assume that you must be not only a doctor but a specialist and well recognised authority in urology or STDs. If that is the case, and you have convincing evidence to support your view, you need to be challenging your colleagues in your professional forums. If it isn't the fact your opinion is at odds with that of three different medical professionals does nothing to undermine the credibility of their argument, but does fatally weaken yours.

 

[Nimajnev]

Snip.

I'm sorry, but medical prevention along those lines is not a reason to circumcise a baby. No baby will be getting HIV from sexual transmission. There's a difference between medically necessary (which is exceedingly rare on a baby) and medically preventative. Medically preventative along those lines - circumcision should be something that parents talk to their sons about, so that their sons can make an informed decision about their own body.

 

[chris bell]

The prevalence of reported STDs in different societies with different populations, different patterns of sexual behaviour and widely differing healthcare systems is entirely meaningless in this context. The only meaningful comparison is between otherwise comparable groups of circumcised and uncircumcised men within the same society. This has been studied extensively: there are literally hundreds of medical publications on the subject in peer reviewed journals showing reduced vulnerability to transmission of HIV (and some other STDs) in circumcised men compared to matched uncircumcised controls.

I regret that I have not been able to find your Slovenian study in Pubmed, but given the very small population and relatively low incidence of circumcision there I would be surprised if the doctor would have been able to recruit a study large enough so have sufficient power to demonstrate a statistically significant difference over so short a time as two years. An underpowered study, of course, proves nothing at all. If you do have the reference please post it.

The view that there are medical benefits to circumcision, including reduced HIV transmission, is not the simply the view of the US medical community; it is increasingly the case in the UK too and historically we don't circumcise routinely here. I'm afraid I don't know what you do for a living, but, as you feel you know more about a medical issue than three doctors, I assume that you must be not only a doctor but a specialist and well recognised authority in urology or STDs. If that is the case, and you have convincing evidence to support your view, you need to be challenging your colleagues in your professional forums. If it isn't the fact your opinion is at odds with that of three different medical professionals does nothing to undermine the credibility of their argument, but does fatally weaken yours.

Australia is perfect example. The circumcision rate use to 80% and is now 10% yet their HIV and AIDS cases continue to fall. How is that possible with more and more intact men?

Why does the US have the HIGHEST HIV rate in the world if circumcision prevented HIV?

Did you know one of the famous African circumcision studies was funded by a circumcision device manufacturer?

 

[chris bell]

I have tried to tolerate repeated evidence of "Goose-stepping" PeePee fanatics. You just make it too easy. Just because you are truly angry over the result of your surgery, just get it fixed and move on...Start a fund and I will send you a cash contribution. For your sake, I will express my I regret that your Obstetrician got in a hurry or simply was an idiot. That's the point at which a real parent should take control and leadership. But dude you've just got to understand that there are millions of us cut guys who are totally happy just the way we are and we do not want a foreskin nor will many men and our sons who will follow us. Just please get your head (the one with two ears and not the one with balls attached) out or our underwear and go feed the sick and hungry. The world is full of sentient, self-aware humans who are sick and hungry. Don't waste your life on foreskins that may provide a little extra tickle. Sex is such a small piece of a meaningful life and a great orgasm is measured in seconds when you are lucky enough to "get a little". BTW...judging from some of your previous Posts, I take it that you found your way here while browsing for just a Support Group. The rest of your obsession does not fit....or this is all that a bit of a stretch.

I don't care about your penis, never have and never will. I care that you are allowed to have a "cut club" on LPSG in which you post your sexual fetish for cutting children.

You claim "we" want "hardcore control over every male's penis" but that is the exact opposite of what "we" want. We want every male to have control over THEIR penis.

Just post your real name, phone number, email and this will all be over. I don't hide so why do you? Don't want your family or co-workers to know what you like?

 

[James Bell]

Australia is perfect example. The circumcision rate use to 80% and is now 10% yet their HIV and AIDS cases continue to fall. How is that possible with more and more intact men?

Why does the US have the HIGHEST HIV rate in the world if circumcision prevented HIV?

Did you know one of the famous African circumcision studies was funded by a circumcision device manufacturer?

Regrettably you have chosen to use a 'post hoc ergo hoc' argument: the fact that one event precedes another does not mean it caused it. As I explained in my previous post HIV transmission is governed by a number of factors including sexual behaviour patterns, safe sex education and steadily improving anti-retroviral therapy. If you wish to evaluate the potentially protective role of circumcision you have to compare the incidence of HIV transmission in circumcised/uncircumcised men in otherwise identical groups with all confounding factors removed.

Comparing Americans with Australians or Australians of 20 years ago with those of today is meaningless pseudoscience.

Yes, I am aware that one of the major African trials was industry funded and there has been some criticism of that study. Most others, however, have been carried out without undue commercial pressure. I would point out, however, that not all industry involvement in medical research is detrimental, and TBH, if we had to rely on public money alone much research, including into COVID vaccines, would be either much slower or never be completed at all.

 

[chris bell]

Regrettably you have chosen to use a 'post hoc ergo hoc' argument: the fact that one event precedes another does not mean it caused it. As I explained in my previous post HIV transmission is governed by a number of factors including sexual behaviour patterns, safe sex education and steadily improving anti-retroviral therapy. If you wish to evaluate the potentially protective role of circumcision you have to compare the incidence of HIV transmission in circumcised/uncircumcised men in otherwise identical groups with all confounding factors removed.

Comparing Americans with Australians or Australians of 20 years ago with those of today is meaningless pseudoscience.

Yes, I am aware that one of the major African trials was industry funded and there has been some criticism of that study. Most others, however, have been carried out without undue commercial pressure. I would point out, however, that not all industry involvement in medical research is detrimental, and TBH, if we had to rely on public money alone much research, including into COVID vaccines, would be either much slower or never be completed at all.

If you can't compare any society to another then why does the American medical community use the African studies to coerce American parents into cutting their children? They tried this on me just 1 month ago, little did they know what I do for a living.

I've been to Australia and Australian doctors have told me point blank CIRCUMCISION DOES NOT REDUCE THE RISK OF HIV.

Circumcision rates have fallen from 80% to 10% yet HIV rates have not gone up, they have actually gone down. It completely blows away the argument that circumcision reduces HIV by 60%. There are more sexually active intact men in Australia today than ever before and yet HIV rates continue to fall.

 

[deleted1334580]

I am never jealous of intact guys, Never ever. I am satisfied with sensations on my penis for all sorts of sexual intercourse.

 

[chris bell]

Exactly the same, nothing has changed LOL!!!!

 

[Lionsden]

Exactly the same, nothing has changed LOL!!!!

 

[Lionsden]

I got cut intentionally at age 30 to rid myself of skin and have never looked back. Cleanliness is a factor, as well. I love it. In fact I wrote on social media profile that uncut and Republicans need not apply.

 

[Hmm123]

Not a day goes by were I don't wish I wasn't cut at birth. I see it as a huge violation to cut off someones foreskin without consent at any age, especially as a baby. All i can do is restore at this point but it'll never be the same and I am extremely saddened that I'll never know what it's like to be fully intact.

 

[Hmm123]

Exactly the same, nothing has changed LOL!!!!

There's a very obvious change wdym. The right pic looks very dry compared to the left

 

[Player_01]

I know this is a dick site but I'm at the point where I wish the whole cut/uncut debates were a ban-able offense.

On either side, calling someone 'mutilated' for being cut or 'dirty' for being uncut or the endless posts in the celebrity section 'do you think he's cut or uncut?' should all result in banning.

 

[pp_ryder]

Um. Just to point out - aren't you putting your head in your son's underwear? (Just addressing 'our sons who will follow us.') Suggesting you give your kid a choice in the matter is keeping everyone out of the kid's pants.

I think that's the biggest part. People keep saying it's a choice - but it isn't. I wouldn't choose to have been cut if I had the option, but I didn't.

As an aside, it's not just about sexual gratification. There are potential psychological effects circumcision can have on men - not all, probably not even most, but it's still possible - and emotional distress that can be added to someone. If, as a teenager or what have you, you decide you'd like to have it done, that's perfectly cool. It's your body, you are allowed to do with it what you want. I just think everyone should get that choice - not our parents.

So I don't have to go thrust this again, let me repost:

It's called choice and I have it... and thank you to my parents for having it done early so I wouldn't have to go through it later in life.

 

[Nimajnev]

So I don't have to go thrust this again, let me repost:

You can be thankful. It still wasn't your choice, and it should have been. Just as it should be everyone's choice what happens to their bodies.

 

[skeezer]

Nope, not at all. Although they are fun to play with, I'm cool with being cut.