Circumcision may not reduce sensitivity of penis

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My foreskin was no where close to a third of the skin on my very average sized penis I doubt is was even 10%

And AGAIN guys like me tell you overwhemlingly that NOTHING was "compromised"

But gee what in hell do we know we are just the perfect "clinical trial subjects"

You are NOT
 
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NO

It is absolutley "disputable"

Making sure he never suffers from Phimosis

Never get "made fun of by other" guys because he is "different" and no that never happened to me.

Never having to suffer from Foreskin tearing issues or having women take one look and decide she was not going to put that "different looking thing" in her mouth and yes the former was my experience and after I got it done there is no question that unprompted women went down on me WAY more often.

One simple surgery that he will never remember anyway which prevents the possibilty of all that is IMO NOT "child abuse"

I wish to hell I would have got "abused" like that.
I don't agree with the strategy of having a surgeon remove all body parts of a baby that could possibly suffer from medical complications in the future.

Also, if a woman rejects a man because his penis has a foreskin (or not), the problem is not with the man or his penis. It is a sign to keep looking, you deserve better from life.
 
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My foreskin was no where close to a third of the skin on my very average sized penis I doubt is was even 10%

And AGAIN guys like me tell you overwhemlingly that NOTHING was "compromised"

But gee what in hell do we know we are just the perfect "clinical trial subjects"

You are NOT

You are very "inconvenient" to the cause so your experience is downgraded to just 'anecdotal'. They don't want to hear from you. You are to disappear...dispatched immediately.

Why is it so difficult to understand?

What is difficult to understand is when someone says they feel great you don't want to believe them. The brain and how it experiences sex is far more complex than 20000 nerves are better than 19000 nerves. Quite amazing you're trying to quantify sexual pleasure via mathematics/nerve counting.

All pleasure is routed through the brain's reward system. And here's a hint it's not about counting nerves.

Reward system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


 
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My foreskin was no where close to a third of the skin on my very average sized penis I doubt is was even 10%

And AGAIN guys like me tell you overwhemlingly that NOTHING was "compromised"

But gee what in hell do we know we are just the perfect "clinical trial subjects"

You are NOT
Perhaps you're right.

Perhaps the nerve endings on our penises are not responsible for transmitting rich and complex stimuli to our brains.

If your theory, based on your experience, is correct, no amount of surgical removal of skin from the penis, from 0% to 100%, should reduce our penis's ability to experience pleasure from physical stimulation.
 

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And perhaps the 80 or even 90 percent of the nerves that are left in that skin we that is most of us BTW still have is WAY more than enough to transmit way more than enough of that "rich and complex stimuli" that in OUR EXPERINCE experience that you do NOT have sexual pleasure is not diminished one little bit or even enhanced.

Following your theory of the case the vast majority of pre-mature ejaculators should/would be uncut.

I mean gee you have all those "extra" nerve endings transmitting who knows how much more of the "rich and complex stimuli" than poor unfortunate guys like me.

How could it be otherwise?
 

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You are very "inconvenient" to the cause so your experience is downgraded to just 'anecdotal'. They don't want to hear from you. You are to disappear...dispatched immediately.



What is difficult to understand is when someone says they feel great you don't want to believe them. The brain and how it experiences sex is far more complex than 20000 nerves are better than 19000 nerves. Quite amazing you're trying to quantify sexual pleasure via mathematics/nerve counting.

All pleasure is routed through the brain's reward system. And here's a hint it's not about counting nerves.

Reward system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think you are misunderstanding my point.

The point that I am making is:

Skin transmits stimuli to the brain.
If we remove skin, we are removing nerve endings.
The brain therefore has fewer nerve endings transmitting signals of pain and pleasure to the brain.
The same applies to all skin on the body, regardless of if it is located on the penises or on our faces.

I am not debating or denying that someone can have incredibly rich and pleasurable sensations and a fantastic sex life with a circumcised penis.

What I am saying is that whether it is perceptible or not, with each percentage of skin removed or damaged, sensation will be slowly reduced until it is perceptible. All of our senses exists on a continuum from 0% to 100% and we may experience loss of sensation to some degree without it being perceptible.

I agree with you. How the brain experiences sex is complex and multivariate, however having thousands of nerve endings surgically removed would reduce to some degree the sensory pleasure we experience, whether it is perceptible or not to the person.
 
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I had a partner who started out intact when we met, but got cut during our relationship. The difference in sensitivity was night and day. In his case, he was actually far too sensitive intact, and normal after getting cut.
That makes perfect sense.

If he was far too sensitive and had a sufficient amount of skin removed he would have less nerve endings sending stimuli to his brain. That would do the trick.

Also, the fact that the head of his penis would now rub directly against his underwear would somewhat reduce sensitivity. The foreskin also protects the head of his penis from surface abrasions and from drying out, which both reduce sensitivity to touch.
 
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But would not we be the best people to KNOW if we preceived any change or not?

People like you keep trying to say "it has just got to be"

I will admit it on the surface seems to be a logical basic theory that more nerve ending equals more stimulation or sensitivity or what ever term you choose too use and that ought to lead to more/better sexual satisfaction/pleasure and that would be a reason to avoid it all costs as some preach but the trouble is the pesky little FACT that when you take the theory and run the experiment on actual human males with it actual before experience a "control/baseline " if you will, it just almost never seems to work out that way.

It is as "logical" as saying that having those 20,000 "extra" nerves would/could/should make an uncut guy more apt to be a pre-mature ejaculater so if you are uncut and and two pump chump the obvious "cure" would be ------------

Which I am sure you would respond to by saying that there are plenty of two pump chumps who have been cut since week one and plenty of uncut guys who can fuck "forever" like porn stars so having or not having a foreskin has "nothing to do with it".

Well which is it?
 

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Maybe everyone is different and has different experiences? I don't think a man circumcised after puberty has any more say in the difference than a baby who was. Time rewires the brain to accommodate feelings pleasurable and painful all the time, especially in extreme conditions.
 

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What is it that all sensitivity that I supposedly lost was supposed to have done for me ???

Make me come quicker? Oh gee EVERY guy wants that :))

penis increases sensitivity after smoking pot
but I'm uncut
BONERS happen
Don't bust quick even with the 5 fold increase in sensitivity.


just thinking about how it felt is making me hard. heh
 
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I agree with you. How the brain experiences sex is complex and multivariate,...... whether it is perceptible or not to the person.

If someone says they enjoy something as much as they did before there is really nothing left to discuss or debate. They are happy. If someone takes Prozac and says wow that made me feel great. Then the drug is a success and will make billions for Eli Lilly. There is no reason to doubt their word.
 

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Uncut it looks better!
Cropping without a medical indication is nonsense, I'm glad I still have my foreskin, it can be great to masturbate with it. With cleanliness, I have no problems because I washed the glans (penis) in the retracted foreskin, twice a day and after use (masturbation, GV).
But remove the prepuce frenulum (frenulektomy) I can only recommend that the benefits are:
First The foreskin can be pulled further back, thus enabling greater stroke during masturbation possible and the foreskin is moving.
Second The penis looks better because the foreskin can be pulled back almost unwrinkled.
Third The penis can be kept clean much better.
I removed the frenulum with three interventions themselves completely. But everyone does the same urologist.

The glans becomes brighter when a keratin layer forms, which also provides for a further desensitization what can u. U. also mean a stimulus and loss of sensation. That's why I wear my foreskin closed and open them only to masturbation, urination and washing.
 

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If someone says they enjoy something as much as they did before there is really nothing left to discuss or debate. They are happy. If someone takes Prozac and says wow that made me feel great. Then the drug is a success and will make billions for Eli Lilly. There is no reason to doubt their word.
You don't get it. I don't doubt their word.

Who am I, who is anyone, to doubt or question someone else's experience or question their reality? I could never imagine having the arrogance to do that. I would never try to tell someone that what they feel is not accurate or true.

If an individual says that they experience as much pleasure, before and after circumcision, then I'm really happy for them because we all deserve pleasure and happiness from our lives.

My point is that the foreskin contains tens of thousands of nerve endings that are lost when the penis is circumcised - simple.
 
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My point is that the foreskin contains tens of thousands of nerve endings that are lost when the penis is circumcised - simple.

Which using the best available information does not affect sexual pleasure. And we're getting this information from a most reliable source, post-op men.