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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I hate hearing anti-medical establisment diatribes as though every doctor was a snake oil salesman trying to screw you out of your money and kill you. Remember, every alternative practitioner, vitamin and supplement salesperson, nontradtional medicine adherent, and doctor hater have their own agendas too.

yep damn those doctors.....theyre all out to manipulate, lie, and not give appropriate advice.....forget about the fact that 80% of patients are non-compliant, lazy and have a sense of entitlement.....i especially hate all those doctors who perform angioplasty just to make money bc no one ever told them that eating McDonalds 10x a week was bad for them.....for the OP, some of those websites that offer "alternatives" are dangerous. Take anything you hear from the general public or internet with a grain of salt and discuss medical issues with people who study medicine. Talk with your doctor one on one.....most are very happy to spend some time and explain things but doctors will explain more if it actually looks like you care about what theyre telling you
 

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I was circumcised at the age of 25. There was no real medical need for the procedure - I live in a country where circumcision is routine, and being born in a European country, I felt 'outta place' here. I simply decided that i liked the look of a cut dick over an uncut one. (Nowadays - 30 years later, I like the view of either!)
Anyway... I spent 3 days in the hospital. The first day, after the aenesthetic wore off, it was a bit sore...mainly from the drying blood under the bandages, if i recall correctly. The painful part was having the dressings changed the first days after the op.... but i was not screaming or writhing in pain.... it was like having a bloodied band-aid remaoved form any area of the body.
I think the psychological element caused me more pain; it WAS my dick after all! I made the mistalke of having drink before retiring for the night BIG MISTAKE I woke up at 3 am witha raging boner....pulling all the stitches to their limits and in quite a bit of agony. An orderly help me remove the dressings, I went for a pee, and was rebandaged. Phwew! You may (or may not) find this hard to believe but I made the same mistake 24 hours later - call me a moron! Same procedure, same result. It did, however, leave some scar tissue behind (from the stretched stitches) which I still have today.
My big fear was having a bath - I delayed it for as long as possible, expecting the warm water to cause me considerable discomfort and/or pain. I was totally incorrect...the water was soothing and there was absolutely no pain. I bathed twice a day for a a few days!! CAUTION: your first shower may be a little painful...the newly exposed glans is somehat sensitive and the pellets of water from the showerhead MAY cause you to jump back! It won't take long to adjust. Same thing applies with underwear... again... it quickly adapts.
As far as sex was concerned.... I was out of action for two weeks. After 8 days I managed to jerk-off using my thumb and twp forefingers on my glans... just rubbing - sorta stroking. It took a while longer than usual, but it worked. I had sex at the end of that next week... felt good...the head was still a little sensitive, but that created some extra pleasure.
Overall, the operation was a success... one downside: I think my dick looks smaller that it did before the op...but that may just be my imagination!
Finally....was I pleased with the ordeal? YES, YES, YES! It was what I wanted and it was worth the discomfort. Some people would never consider giving up their foreskins; that is there right and privilege. As for me I like both, but I am happier as a cut male.

Hope this helps. PM me if you need any other info :smile:
 

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I was circumcised at the age of 25. There was no real medical need for the procedure - I live in a country where circumcision is routine, and being born in a European country, I felt 'outta place' here. I simply decided that i liked the look of a cut dick over an uncut one. (Nowadays - 30 years later, I like the view of either!)
Anyway... I spent 3 days in the hospital. The first day, after the aenesthetic wore off, it was a bit sore...mainly from the drying blood under the bandages, if i recall correctly. The painful part was having the dressings changed the first days after the op.... but i was not screaming or writhing in pain.... it was like having a bloodied band-aid remaoved form any area of the body.
I think the psychological element caused me more pain; it WAS my dick after all! I made the mistalke of having drink before retiring for the night BIG MISTAKE I woke up at 3 am witha raging boner....pulling all the stitches to their limits and in quite a bit of agony. An orderly help me remove the dressings, I went for a pee, and was rebandaged. Phwew! You may (or may not) find this hard to believe but I made the same mistake 24 hours later - call me a moron! Same procedure, same result. It did, however, leave some scar tissue behind (from the stretched stitches) which I still have today.
My big fear was having a bath - I delayed it for as long as possible, expecting the warm water to cause me considerable discomfort and/or pain. I was totally incorrect...the water was soothing and there was absolutely no pain. I bathed twice a day for a a few days!! CAUTION: your first shower may be a little painful...the newly exposed glans is somehat sensitive and the pellets of water from the showerhead MAY cause you to jump back! It won't take long to adjust. Same thing applies with underwear... again... it quickly adapts.
As far as sex was concerned.... I was out of action for two weeks. After 8 days I managed to jerk-off using my thumb and twp forefingers on my glans... just rubbing - sorta stroking. It took a while longer than usual, but it worked. I had sex at the end of that next week... felt good...the head was still a little sensitive, but that created some extra pleasure.
Overall, the operation was a success... one downside: I think my dick looks smaller that it did before the op...but that may just be my imagination!
Finally....was I pleased with the ordeal? YES, YES, YES! It was what I wanted and it was worth the discomfort. Some people would never consider giving up their foreskins; that is there right and privilege. As for me I like both, but I am happier as a cut male.

Hope this helps. PM me if you need any other info :smile:
 

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I've got an issue.
After January you might have a WORSE issue.
I'm getting a loose circumcision ...
You've requested "loose" cut, what you'll get is unknown.
... the big issue of the 'high & tight cut' ... doesn't appeal to me ...
You'd better mentally prepare yourself for that worst-case outcome.
I just wanted to get some first hand opinions ...
See: http://www.lpsg.org/519500-post19.html

I'm acquainted with dhagelin3 via another forum. The out-of-court settlement was substantial but he said he'd rather have his original foreskin and sensitivity back. After reading his experience, maybe you'll want the try the Glansie device?
 

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Hey guys,

I've got an issue.

come January, I'm getting circumcised, and as much flak as I'll get for this, I have no choice in the matter, a severe case of phimosis is causing me issues, so I finally made the decision to get cut.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm absolutely terrified, I've had a foreskin 19 years, and it provides some damn good pleasure, but the phimosis is causing me problems that can only be solved by circumcision, it's such a case where it actually restricts my size, and I can't have sex because the skin tears it's so tight.

I understand that I'll be losing a lot of nerve endings, and a fair bit of skin, but I spoke with the urologist, and he's going to remove as little skin as it takes to remove the phimosis, but what i want to ask is, any of you guys who have had the cut done, or know someone who did, how bad was it? or if they prefer being cut, what are the big pros of having it done? Thankfully, I'm getting a loose circumcision, so I won't have the big issue of the 'high & tight cut' this doesn't appeal to me, as I've always had a fair bit of skin to play with :wink:. But I just wanted to get some first hand opinions, or even second hand, so long as it's constructive :D

Though I'm pretty sure if I ever had children, I would not get them circumcised, I'm still glad that I was. I guess I have a fairly loose circumcision as well, as the skin moves easily over the shaft of my penis. I have had NONE of the problems the pro-foreskin people on this site have cited circumcised males will have. My penis is not unresponsive or undersensitive, the glans doesn't dry out or frequently become chaffed, I prefer the way it looks and, whether tales of the difficulty of keeping an uncircumcised penis clean are true or not, I'm glad I don't have to worry about it either way.

Wish you the best on undertaking this surgical procedure, and here's hoping for a full and speedy recovery.
 

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yep damn those doctors.....theyre all out to manipulate, lie, and not give appropriate advice.....forget about the fact that 80% of patients are non-compliant, lazy and have a sense of entitlement.....i especially hate all those doctors who perform angioplasty just to make money bc no one ever told them that eating McDonalds 10x a week was bad for them.....for the OP, some of those websites that offer "alternatives" are dangerous. Take anything you hear from the general public or internet with a grain of salt and discuss medical issues with people who study medicine. Talk with your doctor one on one.....most are very happy to spend some time and explain things but doctors will explain more if it actually looks like you care about what theyre telling you

Those websites are not dangerous. It is a fact that phimosis can almost always be cured with steriod creams and gentle stretching exercises. This is the common medical treatment in Europe. Any responsible doctor would mention trying these methods before immediately opting for the most extreme (and most expensive) method. It's obvious the OP does NOT want to be circumcised. He should have every opportunity to inform himself of the alternatives. If you don't trust the internet (even the websites of professional medical associations), then go to a fucking library and read medical texts and research. Not all doctors know best about everything. I've had two SERIOUS misdiagnoses in my life. Also, it's just fucking naive to believe that doctors don't care about making money.
 

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I understand that some people are against this, however you must realize that if I didn't have to get circumcised, I wouldn't. I've been looking for solutions for 4 + years, Steroid Cream never worked, stretching (long term or short term) only made it worse, the fact is fora ll my trying, it's only gotten worse, I can't have sex because the skin tears so easily, and it's gotten to the point where it's restricting my erections (thus the whole restricting my size shpeel)

I just want constructive advice from others who've had it done, or know someone who's had it done, I don't want to hear what I've heard a hundred times before "oh no, don't do it, genital mutilation, blah blah blah"

I KNOW.

LoveFifteen if you would take the time to read ALL the post made by the OP then you would find that his doctor has tried alternative methods over the last four years without success. It sounds as though fr4gged has exhausted his alternatives and is down to his last resort.
 

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Those websites are not dangerous. It is a fact that phimosis can almost always be cured with steriod creams and gentle stretching exercises. This is the common medical treatment in Europe. Any responsible doctor would mention trying these methods before immediately opting for the most extreme (and most expensive) method. It's obvious the OP does NOT want to be circumcised. He should have every opportunity to inform himself of the alternatives. If you don't trust the internet (even the websites of professional medical associations), then go to a fucking library and read medical texts and research. Not all doctors know best about everything. I've had two SERIOUS misdiagnoses in my life. Also, it's just fucking naive to believe that doctors don't care about making money.

I'm in the medical profession. Most websites provide 1/10th the information you actually need to understand stuff. The problem with presenting such little information is people dont know how little they know until they learn all the pathophysiology. I dont trust the internet and as for reading "medical texts".....trust me man I have read more medical texts that you have even seen in a library. No, not all doctors know best about everything but they still know a lot more than the average public. I never said doctors dont care about making money, i said you and others give the impression its all they care about. Yes, I feel after 4 years of university, 4 years of medical school, 3-5 years of residency and another 1-3 years of fellowship that we are entitled to a good salary......if you dont agree i dont care



also, steroid creams are highly controversial.....and people who say steroids are a cure all dont know shit about how they actually work
 

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I am circumcised at 24 for case of phimosis and many infections and now im really happy with that, my cap is really nice !:smile:
For sencibility, it's better : i stay hard more time.:smile:
You take a good decision to cut.:smile:

Excuse my english, i'm better reader than writer.

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Hey guys,

I've got an issue.

come January, I'm getting circumcised, and as much flak as I'll get for this, I have no choice in the matter, a severe case of phimosis is causing me issues, so I finally made the decision to get cut.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm absolutely terrified, I've had a foreskin 19 years, and it provides some damn good pleasure, but the phimosis is causing me problems that can only be solved by circumcision, it's such a case where it actually restricts my size, and I can't have sex because the skin tears it's so tight.

I understand that I'll be losing a lot of nerve endings, and a fair bit of skin, but I spoke with the urologist, and he's going to remove as little skin as it takes to remove the phimosis, but what i want to ask is, any of you guys who have had the cut done, or know someone who did, how bad was it? or if they prefer being cut, what are the big pros of having it done? Thankfully, I'm getting a loose circumcision, so I won't have the big issue of the 'high & tight cut' this doesn't appeal to me, as I've always had a fair bit of skin to play with :wink:. But I just wanted to get some first hand opinions, or even second hand, so long as it's constructive :D
 

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I don't see why they can't just make a small incision on the bottom of the skin to relieve the restriction and leave the rest of the skin in place.
In childbirth, for example, they make the tiniest incision in the vagina to allow the head of the child to push through without tearing, leaving the vagina mostly intact so it can be stitched and heal. Why can't that concept be used in the case of phimoiss.
I had a therapeutic circumcision at birth due to phimosis, and when I was a kid I remember specificaly that that rough cotton underwear on the head of my penis DROVE ME NUTS!
 

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You might want to look into possibly stretching the opening gradually over time you could loosen it up or maybe using a steroid cream in addition. I dont know off the top of my head but there are other options.
I agree: DO NOT HAVE YOUR FORESKIN REMOVED! Just getting a LITTLE BIT cut off sounds comforting, but how do you know the doctor will not remove too much? I had an ex that went to the doctor to get a mole off the tip of his foreskin, and when he woke up he had lost ALL his foreskin!
You should try slowly expanding your foreskin, as most of us have done when younger boys. There are creams that help: try and get information in that respect.
 
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fr4gged,

If you have to do it, would it be too much to ask you to illustrate us and post some photos of your penis in your present state, and then some more after the operation? That would be very enlightening for all of us, as there are few opportunities to see such "before and after" photos as guys are usually too shy to show.
 

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fr4gged, a friend of mine had it done almost exactly a year ago. He'd had the dorsal slit done (apparently) at some point and it didn't alleviate the problem and having seen pics of his cock, he couldn't pull back his foreskin at all.

So, last year, aged 19 he got circ'd. He showed me ome pics afterwards and they removed the 'banjo string' and I was like "Did they tell you they were gonna remove the banjo string?" He said "What's that?" I explained and he said "No, they just told me they were going to circumcise me." Make sure that you FULLY discuss with your surgeon what type of circumcision you will be getting. Thankfully, my friend never knew how sensitive the frenulum is so he doesn't actually know what he's missing as such but by god if I had to be cut, I'd make damned sure they left it!
 

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So, last year, aged 19 he got circ'd. He showed me ome pics afterwards and they removed the 'banjo string' ...
The frenulum is almost always removed during a circumcision. It's rather difficult not to.
... but by god if I had to be cut, I'd make damned sure they left it!
In another thread, I read of a guy going to Germany to get cut and keep his frenulum. My guess is that there's very few doctors willing to do such a procedure.
 

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Cost effective IS NOT to be confused with equivalent care. Cost effective treatment of diabetes is only allowing people to spend 100 bucks a month on food. That will also reduce the number of hypertensives and a bunch of other medical problems. For the vast majority of rashes, I could easily prescribe a steroid cream that is cost effective but ultimately would be useless. Bad bad bad advice
 

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I spoke with the urologist, and he's going to remove as little skin as it takes to remove the phimosis

He doesn't have to remove ANY skin to relieve the phimosis. There are other options, surgical and non-surgical. I've been with a couple of German guys who had operations for phimosis and they still have their foreskins. one had a couple of little peaks on his skin, but that was all. The operations are of a general class called posteoplasty (foreskin-shaping), and one common one is called Z-plasty. A Z-shaped incision is made in the foreskin, then it is stitched back together with the Z wider than it was before, i.e. the two points are closer. Result, a looser (shorter) foreskin.

Get a second opinion.
 

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I had a therapeutic circumcision at birth due to phimosis, and when I was a kid I remember specificaly that that rough cotton underwear on the head of my penis DROVE ME NUTS!

Unless there's no urethral opening in your penis or foreskin, there's no such thing as phimosis at birth. The foreskin is attached to the glans and does not separate sometimes until puberty. As long as urine can exit your penis, circumcision is not necessary at birth.
 

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Cost effective IS NOT to be confused with equivalent care.
I posted the link because the report shows that steroids are very effective at resolving phimosis. The fact that they cost less is a bonus.
Bad bad bad advice.
I wasn't giving advice. I was responding to one of your messages.
 

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I posted the link because the report shows that steroids are very effective at resolving phimosis. The fact that they cost less is a bonus.I wasn't giving advice. I was responding to one of your messages.

i skimmed the article.....the one thing that stuck out was the part on page 3 that said most studies using steroid creams were on boys <5 yo and may not be due to phimosis is unknown. I'm sorry but I did not come to the same conclusion as you did from reading that article.....I stand by my statement that steroids are not a cure-all and are dangerous when overused