Circumcision: What do you really think????

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  1. Imported

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    dancinfool: Hey all
    I am uncut and am wondering what guys REALLY feel about being cut or uncut. I know some guys feel proud, others feel that they were violated by parents becfause ther were/werent cut at birth. So what do you think??
     
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    yaddayadda: I'm cut.. its not that bad. I think like 70%+ of USA/Canada is cut, compared with 15% of euros. It's common here. It doesn't bother me... I was cut at age 11 though, due to my doctor being a retard :p The foreskin wouldn't contract right? So she said it would be good to remove it all... I later find that a small cut could have been made to fix the problem >.>

    But anyway, people say there is a loss of sensation... I have nothing to compare to really (I didn't J/O until AFTER the operation). I'm not embarrassed about being cut, like I said, here it's the norm. Uncut guys are sought out though... I would say you are lucky ;)
     
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    chipster: I was cut at birth, and saw very few uncut penis's in the locker room during my school days. So, to me, a cut one looks quite normal. I have only recently gotten to see the great variety of shapes and sizes, cut and uncut (mostly online) that exists. I'm happy with the way mine looks, as it's "normal" to me. Functionally, I have no complaints either.....
    I certainly don't harbor any resentment for my parents for doing what was very conventional at the time. :)
     
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    tomarctus: I'm cut. Actually I say semi-cut since I can pull the skin over the head. I did some foreskin restoration and gained a little back. If I had been persistant I would have been able to get complete coverage. I may return one day to foreskin restoration.
    It really doesn't matter all that much if the circumcision is fairly loose. However, if the circumcision is really tight I think it causes some problems.
    In my partners, it also doesn't really matter too much either, but I do prefer uncut a little more. I like the feel, the look and, like many guys, I like the odor. I especially like very thick and long foreskins.
    My mother and I talked about it. I told her I didn't like being cut. She apologized and said she didn't know any different. These days I wouldn't accept that. I've tried to get friends to leave their baby boys intact and let them decide as adults if they want to be circumcised. I'm not mad at my folks, though.
     
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    I'm uncut, b/c the thing to do when I was born was to be intact like the father. Our son is cut, b/c that was the thing to do when he was born. It's so easy to "join the crowd", and not even research and find out what you believe and act upon that. If I had it to do over again I would leave our son as is and let him have his foreskin.

    Very few males need circumcision and it has never created any problem for me. It got to be "the thing to do" thanks to the pressing of the AMA getting just another way for doctors to make money. I enjoy having foreskin and am thankful for it every time my cock comes to mind!
     
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    [quote author=RoysToy link=board=youth;num=1075341523;start=0#4 date=01/28/04 at 20:20:45]It got to be "the thing to do" thanks to the pressing of the AMA getting just another way for doctors to make money.[/quote]

    Actually that's not the reason. Believe it or not, it got to be "the thing to do" because it was thought that it would deter boys fom masturbating! Guess they got that one wrong!
     
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    The AMA didn't even then! LOL Circumcision was one of those 'vital force' theories, specifically dealing with semen. And it's supposed homolog, vaginal secretions. Preventing masturbation. In the 18th century, Tissot just recommended fasting, meditation, and hydrotherapy. Then in the mid-19th century, doctors became more concerned with medical issues on a grand scale, largely because of Lamarckian inheritance (more vitalism), and so they decided on more sadistic methods, among them circumcision. And since masturbation has been recorded in infants (and infants can't fight back), who better to start with?

    The sadistic methods eventually went away in most of Europe with the rise of psychoanalysis. It would take time, but even the English-speaking world would catch on: The only English-speaking country with a circumcised majority (counting only males, duhh...) today is the United States.
     
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    hung: Born before World War II in the United States. Great topic here. I was left natural and no knife has ever cut back my forskin. I am happy I was left in tact. I enjoy masturbation and sex very much. I can only relate as an uncut, but I will state here and now that what we have must be the best simply because that was the way we were designed.

    For some it is a matter of religious preference and I respect that segment of our society. For the others, we do have basic hygene systems in place. It is called soap and water.

    I am delighted that I remain intact and I have always enjoyed my status. My son was left intact at birth and I have not heard him gripe.
     
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    [quote author=DoubleMeatWhopper link=board=youth;num=1075341523;start=0#5 date=01/28/04 at 20:36:41]

    Actually that's not the reason. Believe it or not, it got to be "the thing to do" because it was thought that it would deter boys fom masturbating! Guess they got that one wrong!
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    huhmmm, and what did the AMA do to dispel this belief among doctors? Absolutely nothing!

    Luke
     
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    [quote author=RoysToy link=board=youth;num=1075341523;start=0#8 date=01/29/04 at 09:41:44]huhmmm, and what did the AMA do to dispel this belief among doctors?   Absolutely nothing![/quote]
    And what could they do? Everyone was into 'vital force' theories back then, even scientists! Psychologists were especially fond of them, but so were biologists, in the days before genetics.
     
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    Bulgeboy: I'm Canadian and cut is the majority up here as well. I also understand it is very common in the Philipines and other S.E. Asian countries.

    Personally, I have no complaints at all and since its the way I've always been, I consider it 'normal'. Being gay, my preference is towards cut in a partner as well.

    As far as I know, the hard-core anti-circumcision groups are often filled with gay cut males with a fetish for uncut.

    As for the medical/psychological issues, I think the pro's and con's on both sides are fairly balanced. The lower levels of AIDS and other STD's reported amongst circumcised males in North America I'm certain has nothing to do with morality.
     
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    While I'm not gay, cut, or a fetishist, I simply am against all forms of quackery. It doesn't matter if it's circumcision or urine therapy. (Actually, a lot of doctors are against circumcision; in fact, no medical association in the world recommends it.) So your characterization is incorrect; it'd be like if I said being pro-circumcision indicated pedophilia since authorities recently busted a kiddie porn ring in Scotland which included images of a circumcision.

    About AIDS...There are lower levels of AIDS in Europe and Latin Ameirca than in the US, so your theory falls flat. By contrast, there are higher rates of AIDS in largely circumcised countries like Nigeria. Also, those who suggest circumcision includes a lower rate of AIDS can't decide if it's because the foreskin has fewer immune cells or because the foreskin has more immune cells. (There's really no anatomical difference in the number of immune cells.)
     
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    Actually, now that I think about it, fetish videos encourage the myth about the foreskin being somehow dirty (All fetish videos are ultimately about filth.), so gay men with a fetish for foreskin have probably never looked at the medical data dispelling said myths.
     
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    wvalady1968: [quote author=jonb link=board=youth;num=1075341523;start=0#12 date=01/30/04 at 16:18:43] (All fetish videos are ultimately about filth[/quote]

    I thought fetish just meant a preference. Hairy men, feet, etc.

    Sorry for the hijack.

    Return to the topic.
     
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    HungJordan: I love being uncut. It makes masturbating (which I do alot of) much easier with my 'skin sliding up and down my pole.
     
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    Tender: actually its my understanding that the AMA doesnt endorse or actually recommend circ for infants.
    you can look it up on the AMA website under 'infants'.

    There is a lengthy discussion on circ i think in the womens issues... which is pretty recent.

    I am not even a guy, lol, and i feel-- hm, not sure that violated is the word,
    but well, my Mother in law was allowed to take something from MY husband, that wasnt HERS.

    :mad:
    Tender
     
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    bigdick04: as someone who has been cut i think circumcision is bad, because when you are baby you can't say anything about it. so i think a guy should be given the option of circumcision at 16
     
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    [quote author=wvalady1968 link=board=youth;num=1075341523;start=0#13 date=01/30/04 at 16:35:19]I thought fetish just meant a preference. Hairy men, feet, etc.[/quote]
    Actually, 'fetish' itself comes from a word meaning roughly the same thing as charm. Later on, sexologists made it a synonym for paraphilia.

    But when I said 'fetish video', I was making a comment on porn. Typically, porn, like all media, tends to rely on stereotypes and misconceptions. And those fetish videos are no exception; typically, fetish videos involving a body part involves dragging said body part through the grime.
     
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    1811: I am thinking about a considerable procedure - full restoration. I am afraid that I am losing sensitivity in my glans, but I don't think its normal for most men.. my size makes me an exception. There is a lot of 'swinging and flopping" that rubs the glans, and ... I feel... causes a loss in sensation.
     
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    dancinfool: Hey all, thanks for the great discussion! I would like it to continue!

    I have been researching it a little bit and I found out that there are several large groups of anti-circumcision Jewish populations all around the USA and some places world wide. Although I think it does contradict the religous beliefs a little, I think that it is a great advance towards a sensible religion (no offence at all). I just believe that if God (of any religion) had wanted us to be cut, he/she/it/they would not have given us foreskin.

    I have nothing against people who are cut or anything, especially since for the most part they had no say in the matter.

    Being uncut, I wish that intact penises were the norm here in the USA, but I have found that people don't care for the most part (sexual parters). A penis is a penis, and there really aren;t any differences in the way a cut and uncut penis pleasures a sexual partner. I guess it is just preference, thats all.

    Thanks for the great responses!
     
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