Originally posted by DC_DEEP@Oct 27 2005, 08:28 PM
I'm still waiting for circumcision advocates to answer the questions I posed. If you actually have a valid stance on the issue, please answer.
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Granted. But they did consider it valid enough to stomp their feet and say "just 'cause I say so" but obviously it is not valid enough to answer a few simple questions. I am not the one that brought "bitter" into the discussion.Originally posted by Matthew@Oct 27 2005, 07:00 PM
Well, I'm not a circumcision advocate. But I'll say this -- it's possible that some do have what they consider to be "valid" arguments but are not interested in a bitter argument. I mean, do you guys believe that someone could actually have pro-circumcision argument that was valid?
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Originally posted by Matthew@Oct 28 2005, 01:00 AM
Well, I'm not a circumcision advocate. But I'll say this -- it's possible that some do have what they consider to be "valid" arguments but are not interested in a bitter argument. I mean, do you guys believe that someone could actually have pro-circumcision argument that was valid?
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Same here, roberto, although I am actually more looking for a logical argument than a valid one. In a twisted sort of way, "because I said so" is valid, but it is not logical until it can withstand questioning and examination. But as you say, I have yet to find one. That really tells the truth about the pro arguments.Originally posted by robertomuro@Oct 27 2005, 08:03 PM
To be honest, I am hoping to find a valid pro-circ argument. It would help me give slightly more respect to the people who circumcise babies. But I have yet to find one..
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I think you have missed the whole point of this thread, it's not a question of whether or not it is simple and easy. It's a question of the ethics and morality of body modification performed on someone who can't say yes or no to the procedure.Originally posted by sobeluver@Oct 29 2005, 05:44 AM
Danm man take a deep breath its not that serious its simple and easy i got one. If you should be making a big deal out of anything it should be getting your balls cut off. :wow:
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Originally posted by sobeluver@Oct 29 2005, 11:44 AM
Danm man take a deep breath its not that serious its simple and easy i got one. If you should be making a big deal out of anything it should be getting your balls cut off. :wow:
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Heheheh, like I said... none of the advocates is willing or able to step up to the plate.Originally posted by KNOB@Oct 29 2005, 03:01 PM
The answer to all of your questions, at least in my opinion, is that circumcision is barbaric and sadistic. This practice is body modification extreme (BME).
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Originally posted by jonb@Oct 30 2005, 04:16 AM
Actually, 150's about 1/2330. How many friends did you say? I'll keep it to four and you'll see the problem with your argument, namely that, assuming you don't pick and choose friends by their IQ, that's only one in THIRTY TRILLION odds.
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Originally posted by Dr Rock@Oct 30 2005, 05:55 PM
I've noticed that "smart" people are often pretty stupid.
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Originally posted by jonb@Oct 31 2005, 04:30 AM
I actually encountered a troll the other day who said black students scored six standard deviations below the mean. I wish I were making that up. LOL
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Originally posted by Matthew@Oct 21 2005, 02:51 PM
Well, I guess I'll jump into the hornet's nest, why not.
I am circumsized and don't consider myself "mutilated." My cock works fine and does everything I want and need it to do. I am content with myself, my quality of life is reasonably good. What's bad about it has nothing to do with my lack of foreskin. I have a little bit of curiosity about what it would be like to have a foreskin, but not too much. I'll never experience it; add that to the long list of things I'll never experience in this life.
I am not angry at my parents for having me circumsized. Obviously I would be if they had amputated an arm or leg (!. I wouldn't be able to say many of the things I said in the previous paragraph. I respect that some people feel super strongly on this issue. But in all honesty, I feel the comparison between circumcision and amputation of a limb or female circumcision (meaning removal of the clitoris) is hyperbolic.
That said, if I were uncircumsized I'm sure I would also be happy with my dick and would not choose to get circumsized later in life. Similarly, if I had a male child I would probably not have him circumsized for some of the reasons that anti-circumsision folks have mentioned.
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Originally posted by robertomuro+Oct 31 2005, 08:51 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(robertomuro @ Oct 31 2005, 08:51 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-jonb@Oct 31 2005, 04:30 AM
I actually encountered a troll the other day who said black students scored six standard deviations below the mean. I wish I were making that up. LOL
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