Circumcision???????
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D_Miranda_Wrights
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This is a weird ethical argument. Next time I want to kick someone, I'll just go for it, and if they complain...well, everyone dies eventually?
I think if you're making the argument "life is suffering so who cares," chances are good you're losing on the merits.
you should never get a newborn boy cirked at all. there is no reason to cut off healthy skin, esp when it's there for a purpose. The only one who should deside this is the owner of the penis.
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Indeed, if I understand it, this argument could be used to justify any atrocity at all, because death is worse.
And if Zayne was just going a roundabout way to say "there are worse things than circumcision", well of course there are, who ever said otherwise? Not every bad thing can be, or has to be, the worst thing there is.
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Resolution to what question? I'm against RIC. I don't think "but we all die anyway" is an ethical defense.
But an ethical defence could be:
but we all have an exposed glans when having sex, so what is wrong with having an exposed glans when not having sex ?
but we all have an exposed glans when having sex, so what is wrong with having an exposed glans when not having sex ?
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First off, I'm not sure how that's an ethical argument. It pretends that "exposure of glans" was the only variable involved in circumcision -- as if we weren't excising skin, performing an irreversible surgery, reducing the availability of slack skin for pumping, etc. It's not making an ethical argument, but rather narrowing the scope of analysis to one issue and then equivocating on that one issue.
Second, I like sex as much as any red-blooded American man, but there are plenty of things that I like during sex that I'd rather not have 24/7/365. Like, say, an erection.
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Have you ever been with an uncut guy?.. If you haven't you should at least give them a try once..
I'm not super experienced with them, but i doubt I'd throw a guy out of bed for having one, if I liked other things about him.
I'd think you'd run into a decent amount of uncut guys based on your location..
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Aren't you lucky to live at a time and place when circumcision is common, then? For most of human history and over most of the world, you'd have been shit out of luck. (In fact of course, it's the prevalence of circumcised dicks when and where you are that makes you familiar with them, and hence to like them.)
Your answer is at cross purposes with Pete's statement. Nobody's sexual preference make non-consented genital cutting of someone else ethical.
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We all have an exposed cock when having a piss, so what is wrong with having an exposed cock when not having a piss (in church, say)?
Epic logical FAIL.
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I didn't start this thread.
Yes, I did state my opinion. I've not only stated my opinion, but a rationale for my opinion, and rebutted the opposing argument. If any of those 5 billion people on this planet have a superior argument to the ones I think justify opposing RIC, then I want to hear it. What sort of discussion would you prefer? Or are you saying "there are 5 billion people on the planet, so fuck trying to figure out what's right or wrong"?
In church, it is different. You need to protect your penis from the catholic priests. Pants may not be enough though, you may need a chastity belt. But out on the streets and in shoppng malls, there should be nothing wrong with males having their penis exposed to breathe some fresh air.
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My husband was circumcised as a baby and his opinion was never taken into consideration. He realized his sensitivity may have been different otherwise and was pretty upset about it... he's come to terms with it! We are big on natural practices and will not be snipping our kids
why cause unnecessary pain?? Still sexy either way, I love his trunk :wink:
My husband was circumcised as a baby and his opinion was never taken into consideration. He realized his sensitivity may have been different otherwise and was pretty upset about it... he's come to terms with it! We are big on natural practices and will not be snipping our kids
Still sexy either way, I love his trunk :wink:
Im still scared of the backlash were probly gonna get from no circumcision. Religion and family are fucking pushy as hell.
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Im still scared of the backlash were probly gonna get from no circumcision. Religion and family are fucking pushy as hell.
Religious guilt trips are only effective on the religious :tongue:
