Thats why I wasted the time to say "federal income taxes"
Well.........with those on minimum wage salaries paying the taxes I did mention --- just how much of their $7.25 per hour wage do you think they SHOULD have to pay in Federal Taxes??? As you well know --- the reason a lot of people DON"T pay FIT is that they don't earn ENOUGH in a graduated income tax system!
Really? I'm suggesting that it is no more unfair that people pay different tax rates than that they get different pay rates. There is no justification for the wild difference in pay rates which currently exist. Those with the power to do so have given themselves huge pay rises.
Well.........with those on minimum wage salaries paying the taxes I did mention --- just how much of their $7.25 per hour wage do you think they SHOULD have to pay in Federal Taxes??? As you well know --- the reason a lot of people DON"T pay FIT is that they don't earn ENOUGH in a graduated income tax system!
Republicans are good at code word and slogans designed to divide and conquer. The term "class warfare" is deliberately designed to put in the minds of people some imaginary battle between so-called "haves" and "have-nots".
Problem being, those who imagine themselves as being among the haves, historically rally around "causes" (if I may associate so noble a word with so base a notion) that benefit them to no end because in reality they are NOT, sort of like how masses of poor Southerners rallied around "the Cause" to preserve their "way of life"... a way that most of them personally never benefited from.
In like fashion, even though MOST Americans fall into that "class" of people who have the most to lose from the Republican plan, they imagine themselves to be of the other class (the wealthy) if for no other reason than to disassociate themselves from those of lesser means.
It's really a connivingly clever if disingenuous means of MAKING class warfare out of something that is not, unless you consider 1% of the population worthy of being characterized as such.
Still many will buy into the con and run out to support conservative candidates who really couldn't give a flying fuck about them. They're out there trying to stick it to some imaginary "those people" even after they come to the realization that they too are among "those people".
But hey, not every day one gets to fuck themselves, eh?
And supposing they were unable to invest in themselves because daddy did not have enough money to send them to college. Is that fair?Some skills are not in demand, some skills are. I work around a lot of software developers. Your average man off the street cannot walk in and write the software we need. Thus, they get paid $65/hour. They had to invest heavily in themselves in order to get their job.
Really? they didnt spend 20 years learning to walk, balance, get strong? How many 50 year olds in the population could really stop working in their office and survive spending their day emptying trash? I'd say to you the great majority of the population is incapable of doing this job.On the other hand, just about anyone off the street can empty our trash, thus they get paid $10/hour. There was no investment in themselves, no dilligent creation of skills;
true. Why? In the Uk there has been a great increase in university education in recent years, yet there remain skills shortages. Lots of money spent on educating people but not about subjects which would allow them to make money. How did this happen? Had those people been taught programming then there would be more of them than dustmen and they should be paid accordingly. Oh...maybe that is why they were not trained? It suits software engineers not to train new software engineers?There are FAR more people capable of only emptying the trash than there are of coming up with software solutions.
If we in the US are indeed so :tragedy: dirt poor that half the citizenry cannot do its "fair share" to support the federal government, shouldn't we downgrade ourselves to "Third World" position and live within our modest means?
It's certainly not helped by the fact that most of the Republican candidates are bat shit crazy and that Republicans buy their own rhetoric.
More importantly, it seems that it's becoming a feature of politics in other English speaking countries too.
Jealousy rears its ugly head.And supposing they were unable to invest in themselves because daddy did not have enough money to send them to college. Is that fair?
This is a typical liberal tactic: add things that are completely irrelevant. If someone creates a standard of living that is too high to be supported on a minimum wage job, then loses their high paying job, they have to change thier standard of living. This, in no way, has a bearing on if they would be capable of doing the job. Your red herring was pointless.Really? they didnt spend 20 years learning to walk, balance, get strong? How many 50 year olds in the population could really stop working in their office and survive spending their day emptying trash? I'd say to you the great majority of the population is incapable of doing this job.
Are you joking? This must be sarcasm.true. Why? In the Uk there has been a great increase in university education in recent years, yet there remain skills shortages. Lots of money spent on educating people but not about subjects which would allow them to make money. How did this happen? Had those people been taught programming then there would be more of them than dustmen and they should be paid accordingly. Oh...maybe that is why they were not trained? It suits software engineers not to train new software engineers?
No he means bat shit crazy, mitt romney doesn't share my outlookAre you saying that the left doesn't worship at the alter of the Democrats? That they don't have an agenda that is passed down from the 'elites'?
By "bat shit crazy" you mean "doesn't share my outlook"?
In fairness, the "bright young conservative" doesn't say that the Republican presidential candidates are crazy, just that they sound as though they are.THE WEEKLY STANDARDs official reaction to last nights Republican presidential debate: Yikes.
Reading the reactions of thoughtful commentators after the stage emptied, talking with conservative policy types and GOP political operatives later last evening and this morning, we know were not alone. Most wont express publicly just how horrifiedor at least how demoralizedthey are. After all, they still want to beat Obamaas do we. And they want to get along with the possible nominee and the other candidates and their supporters. They dont want to rock the boat too much. But maybe the GOP presidential boat needs rocking.
The e-mails flooding into our inbox during the evening were less guarded. Early on, we received this missive from a bright young conservative: I'm watching my first GOP debate...and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!
No he means bat shit crazy, mitt romney doesn't share my outlook
Concerning "bat-shit crazy": William Kristol, The Weekly Standard, September 23, 2011:
In fairness, the "bright young conservative" doesn't say that the Republican presidential candidates are crazy, just that they sound as though they are.
Do you actually believe that lowering taxes will raise revenues?The Sugar Act during the colonial times lowered taxes on molasses. Can you imagine what happened?
*hint, tax revenue went up. Oh drat, that was the answer. Not that liberals would have come up with it.
The Sugar Act during the colonial times lowered taxes on molasses. Can you imagine what happened?
*hint, tax revenue went up. Oh drat, that was the answer. Not that liberals would have come up with it.