Clinton goes too far; finally

[B_jacknapier]

No my friend YOU are the logically challenged one. It's Hillary or nobody huh? Policy wise McBush and Hillary/Obama are worlds apart. McCain has embraced every Bush policy. And Bush will undoubtedly go down as the Worst President Ever. And that is what you're giving a huge thumbs up to if you vote McCain. If you like Bush you'll LOVE McCain.

 

[Trinity]

A key difference being that thousands didn't die needlessly so he could.

Couldn't agree more...It's probably best not to use phrases tied to Bush to make a point.:wink:

 

[deleted15807]

From TODAY's Wall Street Journal:

"With Mr. Bush's popularity at a record low, the McCain campaign has made sure that television footage of the two men together will be minimal. The maneuvering is the latest example of Sen. McCain's aggressive effort to separate himself from the White House, even as he embraces many of the policies that Mr. Bush has promoted throughout his presidency..."
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So in other words he will embrace Bush policies BUT he won't embrace Bush in public. Win win. Bush's wacko followers will get the message while the benighted public will think he's a maverick. It gives Karl Rove hard-ons just thinking about it.

 

[2322]

it's too bad actually really bad when we have an 'uninformed citizenry'. The very health of the nation is at risk. Jefferson must be rolling around in his grave to know Americans vote based on lies, rumors and hearsay. “An informed citizenry can be trusted with its government.” wrote Jefferson. These people are not informed and therefore cannot be trusted with government. If you aren't informed how can you make the right decisions?

And being informed means more than watching CNN, MSNBC or any of the televised 'news' shows. Journalism is dead on those networks. It's all theater. The ascension of Fox News to the top of the shit pile signaled the end of hard news and journalism

Let me tell you about James Callender.....

In the presidential election of 1800 contested between Adams and Jefferson, James Callender proved himself most useful to Jefferson. The election of 1800 is still regarded as one of the dirtiest in US history:

In 1797 Callender published news of the Treasury Secretary's [Alexander Hamilton] adulterous affair with a married woman (a charge to which Hamilton confessed). In addition he charged that Hamilton had subsequently attempted to silence the woman's husband with insider secrets and treasury funds, a charge that Hamilton vehemently denied and that was never proven. In the wake of Callender's sordid revelations, Hamilton never again held a civil office, though he served as Inspector General in the Provisional Army raised during the Quasi-War.

Callender's attacks on Hamilton paled in comparison to the calumny that he directed at Adams, which amounted to character assassination. In 1799, bankrolled by Jefferson and acting as the editor of the Republican Richmond Examiner, Callender began work on The Prospects before Us. Dredging up the pro-monarchy charges that always dogged Adams, Callender accused the president of being "mentally deranged," planning to crown himself king, and grooming John Quincy as his heir to the throne. Adams was a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." Adams, alleged Callender, had brought about The Quasi-War crisis with France through his own "steadfast antipathy" toward the former ally. In other words, Adams' reelection would result in war; Jefferson's election would ensure peace. -John & Abigail Adams

Callender was jailed under Adams's notorious Alien and Sedition Act but then pardoned by Jefferson once he took office, then demanding the office Postmaster General in return for his work for Jefferson. The new president refused and Callender then went after his former patron:

The scorned Callender went to work for Richmond's Federalist paper, the Recorder, where he revealed that Jefferson had subsidized his campaign against Adams. He quoted Jefferson's letters as proof. Jefferson said only that his "charity" had been misconstrued. The increasingly enraged Callender next committed to print what had long been the subject of gossip: the story of Jefferson's long affair with his black slave, Sally Hemings, the "African Venus." "By this wench," wrote Callender in "The President Again," "our president has several children. There is not an individual in the neighborhood of Charlottesville who does not believe the story, and not a few who know it. ..."

Jefferson chose not to respond to the charges publicly. Adams held his silence as well. But Abigail Adams revived her correspondence with Jefferson to deliver her own blistering attack on his character, accusing him of "the blackest calumny and foulest falsehoods." Jefferson's denial of any involvement with Callender fell on deaf ears. -ibid.

 

[Industrialsize]

No, you're not missing anything.

It's very much a "take my ball and go home" mentality. If they're not given their choice of candidate for their party they won't support the party? That's sour grapes pure and simple.

I haven't seen any Obama supporters make the same threat in the event that Hillary wins the nomination. Perhaps they have and I've missed it.

The issue is whether or not Americans want another Republican administration, not what you think of the candidate's fan base.

This is your country on the line folks, it's not American Idol.

I think I'm on of the Obama Zombies people refer to. Hell i love kool aid. And i have said many times in these Political threads that should Senator Clinton be the Democratic Nominee, I would absolutely vote for her. The stakes are TOO HIGH!

 

[Industrialsize]

From TODAY's Wall Street Journal:

"With Mr. Bush's popularity at a record low, the McCain campaign has made sure that television footage of the two men together will be minimal. The maneuvering is the latest example of Sen. McCain's aggressive effort to separate himself from the White House, even as he embraces many of the policies that Mr. Bush has promoted throughout his presidency..."
Free Preview - WSJ.com

So in other words he will embrace Bush policies BUT he won't embrace Bush in public. Win win. Bush's wacko followers will get the message while the benighted public will think he's a maverick. It gives Karl Rove hard-ons just thinking about it.

UGH! Now the image of Karl Rove with a hardon is indelibley burned into my brain....It ain't a pretty site....

 

[swordfishME]

UGH! Now the image of Karl Rove with a hardon is indelibley burned into my brain....It ain't a pretty site....

Maybe this is the "cure" for homosexuality that people keep talking about :biggrin1:

 

[TinyPrincess]

Karl Rove with a hardon - LOL.

 

[Shelby]

Word is the Clinton campaign is so contrite over Hill's recent gaffe they're planning to make it up to Barack with a shiny new convertible.

 

[BUSTERHYMAN]

109 things I trust more than Hillary Clinton
Flint Michigan tap water
A rattlesnake with a “pet me” sign
Monica Lewinski
OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection
A fart when I have diarrhea
An elevator ride with Ray Rice
Michael Jackson’s Doctor
An Obama Nuclear deal with Iran
Gas station Sushi
A Jimmy Carter economic plan
Brian Williams news reports
Loch Ness monster sightings
Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton
A Palestinian in Israel with a backpack on a motorcycle
Rosie O showing restraint at an all-you-can-eat buffet
Winning the Nigerian lottery
Mexican building codes
A bigfoot sighting
Bill Clinton claiming he’s a virgin
Ebola
Pete Carroll coaching decisions
A condom made in China
Prostitutes in Thailand
Lucas Electric
The IRS
A styrofoam gas can
That prophylactic you kept in your wallet for three years in high school, ‘just in case’.
Used car salesman
The boat captain who says, “Just for the heck of it, let’s all slip into a life preserver.”
Walking through fire wearing gasoline soaked clothes.
Taking a bubble bath with a cobra.
Joe Biden with his arm around me.
Michael Moore with the doughnuts!
Bernie Madoff with my money
A blind date with a woman named Caitlyn
A guide muttering “This could be bad. The sun is setting in the east.”
The government when it says a tax will be temporary
A panhandler wearing a Rolex
Picking up a hitchhiker in a hockey mask.
Duggar birth control plan
North Korean media
Lois Lerner’s honest face.
Taylor Swift’s next relationship working out…
…or the one after that.
Jon Stewart as a factual journalist
The NSA
John Kerry’s war record.
Greece repaying all its debts in full.
Malaysian Airlines pilots.
Barack Obama saying, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”
A drunk bomb disposal technician.
Nuclear hand grenades
ISIS tour guide for Christians
FDA approved pink slime
Sen. Dianne Feinstein teaching gun safety
Sen. Charlie Rangel teaching an ethics class
Hollywood wedding vows
Obama’s Birth Certificate
Kool Aid at a Jim Jones party
The IRS agent who says, “I’m here to help you”
A pack of wild dogs when I am wearing bacon underwear
Jerry Sandusky as a Boy Scout troop leader
Michael Jackson babysitting my kids
A wolf when he say’s he does not even know my grandma
Eating an apple from an orchard at Fukushima reactor #4
Asking Michelle Obama to hold my cheesy nachos for a second
Congress to control spending
An ice cream truck full of kids
The dentist when he says “you will only feel a tiny bit of momentary discomfort”
An ex who says, “We can still be friends!”
A mosquito at Magic Johnson’s barbecue
A Tele-Evangelist with grandma’s checkbook
El Chapo’s prison guards
Mr. Krabs with my money
My cat with a plate of Tuna noodle salad
The average politician
Rachel Dolezal saying ‘I identify as black’
Cafeteria food
A dating website profile picture
A wolf in the chicken coop
Spray on hair
Osama Bin Laden flying an American plane
Astrology-based mutual funds
Discount botox injection
Swimming with great white sharks
That thing on the Donald’s head
A $12 Rolex from a street vendor in New York City
Paris Hilton proofreading a college thesis
Cubs winning the World Series
Anthony Weiner with a free data plan
Drug dealers
Having Jared from Subway put Mayo on your sub
Playing Russian Roulette with a semi-auto pistol
The Heimlich Maneuver from Barney Frank
A prostate exam from Captain Hook
Identity thieves with my wallet
Homemade seaweed beer
My Grandma to run my email server
The main stream media
Miley Cyrus to teach my children to dance
The guy that installs turn signals at the BMW plant
The quality control guy at the Lucus Electric factory
Ashley Madison’s security team
Kim Jong-Il’s official biography
A small unidentifiable speedboat coming toward you off the coast of Somalia

 

[b.c.]

109 things I trust more than Hillary Clinton
Flint Michigan tap water
A rattlesnake with a “pet me” sign
Monica Lewinski
OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection
A fart when I have diarrhea
An elevator ride with Ray Rice
Michael Jackson’s Doctor
An Obama Nuclear deal with Iran
Gas station Sushi
A Jimmy Carter economic plan
Brian Williams news reports
Loch Ness monster sightings
Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton
A Palestinian in Israel with a backpack on a motorcycle
Rosie O showing restraint at an all-you-can-eat buffet
Winning the Nigerian lottery
Mexican building codes
A bigfoot sighting
Bill Clinton claiming he’s a virgin
Ebola
Pete Carroll coaching decisions
A condom made in China
Prostitutes in Thailand
Lucas Electric
The IRS
A styrofoam gas can
That prophylactic you kept in your wallet for three years in high school, ‘just in case’.
Used car salesman
The boat captain who says, “Just for the heck of it, let’s all slip into a life preserver.”
Walking through fire wearing gasoline soaked clothes.
Taking a bubble bath with a cobra.
Joe Biden with his arm around me.
Michael Moore with the doughnuts!
Bernie Madoff with my money
A blind date with a woman named Caitlyn
A guide muttering “This could be bad. The sun is setting in the east.”
The government when it says a tax will be temporary
A panhandler wearing a Rolex
Picking up a hitchhiker in a hockey mask.
Duggar birth control plan
North Korean media
Lois Lerner’s honest face.
Taylor Swift’s next relationship working out…
…or the one after that.
Jon Stewart as a factual journalist
The NSA
John Kerry’s war record.
Greece repaying all its debts in full.
Malaysian Airlines pilots.
Barack Obama saying, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”
A drunk bomb disposal technician.
Nuclear hand grenades
ISIS tour guide for Christians
FDA approved pink slime
Sen. Dianne Feinstein teaching gun safety
Sen. Charlie Rangel teaching an ethics class
Hollywood wedding vows
Obama’s Birth Certificate
Kool Aid at a Jim Jones party
The IRS agent who says, “I’m here to help you”
A pack of wild dogs when I am wearing bacon underwear
Jerry Sandusky as a Boy Scout troop leader
Michael Jackson babysitting my kids
A wolf when he say’s he does not even know my grandma
Eating an apple from an orchard at Fukushima reactor #4
Asking Michelle Obama to hold my cheesy nachos for a second
Congress to control spending
An ice cream truck full of kids
The dentist when he says “you will only feel a tiny bit of momentary discomfort”
An ex who says, “We can still be friends!”
A mosquito at Magic Johnson’s barbecue
A Tele-Evangelist with grandma’s checkbook
El Chapo’s prison guards
Mr. Krabs with my money
My cat with a plate of Tuna noodle salad
The average politician
Rachel Dolezal saying ‘I identify as black’
Cafeteria food
A dating website profile picture
A wolf in the chicken coop
Spray on hair
Osama Bin Laden flying an American plane
Astrology-based mutual funds
Discount botox injection
Swimming with great white sharks
That thing on the Donald’s head
A $12 Rolex from a street vendor in New York City
Paris Hilton proofreading a college thesis
Cubs winning the World Series
Anthony Weiner with a free data plan
Drug dealers
Having Jared from Subway put Mayo on your sub
Playing Russian Roulette with a semi-auto pistol
The Heimlich Maneuver from Barney Frank
A prostate exam from Captain Hook
Identity thieves with my wallet
Homemade seaweed beer
My Grandma to run my email server
The main stream media
Miley Cyrus to teach my children to dance
The guy that installs turn signals at the BMW plant
The quality control guy at the Lucus Electric factory
Ashley Madison’s security team
Kim Jong-Il’s official biography
A small unidentifiable speedboat coming toward you off the coast of Somalia

I noticed DONALD TRUMP didn't make the list.