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Discussion in 'Politics' started by D_Juan Tootree, Dec 8, 2008.

  1. D_Juan Tootree

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    I posted this as a reply in another thread, but I think my point is good enough that I thought I should start a new thread with it. Check it, homie:

    Democrats are mean and nasty because they steal people's hard earned money, and waste it on mismanaged programs. The government is soooo good at running the post office (that is ALWAYS misdelivering my mail) and the DMV, and hey, how about the two government programs that are eating up the budget aside from all the bail outs and bloat proposed by the Democrats in control of house and senate? Social security and Medicare, both ineffective, both well on their way to being bankrupt. So hey, logically we should just make them MORe powerful then and send them MORE money to waste... sense the sarcasm, right?

    I don't have rhetoric, people, I don't represent the GOP. The GOP lost me along time ago when they stopped believe in reducing government spending and stop representing any solid principles. When they become Democrat Lite, so to speak, spenders on a smaller scale, I knew no party was representing me. So from me comes no rhetoric, only common sense. I support Palin because during her debate, and during the election season, she was pretty much the only person talking about cutting spending, and drilling as a way to boost the economy by creating jobs and putting checks in people's pockets from revenue generated from drilling. Yes, in Alaska they do drill, and in Alaska everyone gets a check in the mail not because of loopy socialism, but because of the money generated from drilling on the people's land. She seemed to represent freedom, and growing an economy by keeping government out of that way... which has ALWAYS proven to work. All Obama and the democrats want to do is spend like there is no deficit (Obama stated in an interview he doesn't care about the deficit), block us from becoming energy independent, bail their business buddies and unions out, spit all over the Constitution (Obama said he disagrees with the Constitution as a document of "negative rights"...wtf??), and print and spend reducing our money into monopoly currency.......

    ...and none of you people seem to care because you are so married to the idea of being open minded, "cool" Democrat types.

    Sorry, but politics aren't about being involved in clubs or cults of personality, that is dangerous and it can destroy everything that was have achieved as a nation thus far. I doubt many of you have been overseas, but I have, and if you see the shit condition most other countries are in BECAUSE of a government entity controlling the economy and flow of money (kind of what our government is moving towards)... then you would know how truly lucky you are as Americans.

    Shame on all of you, you are going to squander your liberties and give up your rights by continuing to vote mindlessly for Democrats.

    I probably shouldn't be bothering because Ill never change anyone's rhetoric, in which you are constantly trying to glorify the Democrat party and overlook their faults. This isn't a partisan issue, it's a bigger issue. It's about preserving our way of life, and not destroying our economy and country in the process of voting for charismatic demogogs that pander to minorities, buys votes, and offers no real solutions except for tired government-centric policies rehased from the age of FDR and Carter. FDR only prolonged the Great Depression by keeping Hoover's taxes high and wasting the money on social programs and government created jobs, and creating cockamamey social programs like Social Security that are struggling and mismanaged to this day. Thus taking more money out of people's pockets, instead of keeping taxes low and allow businesses to flourish and CREATE new, better paying jobs for all Americans. I don't even have to get into the Carter years with massive inflation and recession.

    So get over your class envy, and grow up, and realize that we need that top 1% here in this country to create better paying jobs for all. Not tax the sweet living hell out of them, force them to have to lay people off, destroy the private sector and free market, and create more people working for Govt and thus taking more money from other people who create privitized jobs.
     
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    Did you once work for Richard Nixon? I feel like I'm in a time warp here.
     
  3. rob_just_rob

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    Kool-aid comes in many flavours, but it's all still the same brightly coloured sugar water entirely lacking in substance.
     
  4. D_Juan Tootree

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    lol, no, i just make my political decisions based on logic, not based on emotion. Plus, Nixon wasn't even a true conservative. He expanded the government in several ways, especially to take away people's rights in the form of the DEA. More of what I don't support. I hate big brother. I hate nanny states. I hate the government taking the place of my parents and telling me what's good for me and what's not. As a law abiding citizen, i have the right to put anything I want in my body, and if that leads to illegal activity, THEN make the punishment harsh. So, no, not a fan of Nixon either.

    REMEMBER FOLKS, i am not a GOP stereotype, I am an independent. The only way I'd ever be a member of the Republican party is if they align themselves with a fresher faced, new generation of politicians that DON'T believe in spending tax payer money drunkenly like Bush did.

    I just believe in the government getting out of our f'ing way and letting us live our lives and staying OUT of the private sector and the Free market, and letting it do it's thing and create jobs. The issues we are having with the economy are a direct result in the government intervening and forcing lending establishments to loosen lending restrictions to low income people because according to the Democrats, "everyone has a right to a house". No one has to earn anythign anymore, under the Democrats, everyone has a RIGHT to everything. Again, government bully stepping in and telling business how to run themselves is dangerous. That, and our currency losing alot of value because of overspending, overprinting, and total lack of responsibility from the politicians in charge right now to spend within their means...

    and somehow supporting the Democrat party is going to change this and solve our economic problems? UGH. COME ON PEOPLE.

    Stop voting the same bloated, rich, asshole, hypocrit career politicians into office simply because they represent the party that you are illogically in love with, and start voting BASED ON THE ISSUES
     
  5. D_Juan Tootree

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    EXACTLY, perfectly said. So stop drinking the koolaid, Rob, and stop mindlessly voting Democrat
     
  6. mindseye

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    Oh, me too!
     
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    I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sensing a sock puppet.
     
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    Speaking of,

    Bush is the most liberal GOP pres we've had... since.. oh ever.
     
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    Why are people still complaining about the election. It's over...people should be trying to get behind the president now even if they didn't vote for him. Posting stuff like this does nothing but piss people off and I'm sure people don't log into LPSG to get irritated or aggrivated about politcal views. Honestly, If I was in charge of the site...this stuff would not be on it or allowed. If you all noticed...we've lost a few good contributing members of this site due to the polital views posted and argued upon by certain members...and I've posted my retorts to them as well but it really takes a lot to get me pissy like that. The best thing we can do now is to try to make sure things go well and in a direction that we HOPE will be positive for ourselves and the nation. If you don't like the direction something is going...complain to someone that can get your views heard by people that will and can do something about it. This post isn't directed at anyone inparticular...it's just getting really old seeing the name calling, telling people they are stupid or in the new republican slang "Drinking the Kool-Aid". If you want a positive response and serious answers...try posting in a more congenial manner. What you may not find offensive or annoying, someone else may.
     
  11. invisibleman

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    Independents haven't been in office. Why is that?

    Republicans had eight years and you want to blame Democrats for Bush Administration shit. <sarcasm> It must be nice being Independent.</sarcasm>

    Does it negate your Republican past?

    You are so like born again Christians. You sit there and you sit on your holier-than-thou stance.

    "Oh, I am an independent. Oh, I used to be GOP. I still hate those minority lovin' Democrats."

    Bull. Bull. Bull. What-EVER.

     
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    Does it negate your Republican past?

    The hell?
     
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    Oh man... I fuckin' love that shit!!!! :biggrin1:

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    For what it's worth... it has NEVER been cool to be a democrat. lol!
     
  14. rob_just_rob

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    Am I the only one who finds it hilarious when people make statements like this one, and then proceed to follow it up with a completely emotional argument? :rolleyes:

     
  15. rob_just_rob

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    I have never voted Democrat, FYI.


    edit: I did vote New Democrat once, in 1988. Does that count?
     
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    And now for some new political arithmetic. See if you can follow.

    Independent != Intelligence

    Very few people on this board that identify themselves as an "independent" have shown any sense of independent thinking. There are notable exceptions, but as it stands you don't seem to be one. It all looks like repackaged Republican rhetoric. So you need to do a lot more than spewing liberal and/or conservative garbage, all the while tooting the horn of Ron Paul or whatever politician who doesn't have a chance in Hell in winning a presidential election.

    Got it? Good... now, refocus on your OP and TRY to demonstrate some.
     
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  17. D_Juan Tootree

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    First off, anyone who doesn't spout off what you agree with I guess is a sock puppet, Wartrac. Don't read my arguments or pay attention to the fact that I said several times that I am not being represented by a political party right now, so I have to be an independent. An independent that is adamently opposed to the expansion of the Federal government and overspending (the source of our economy problems right now), and opposes both Bush and the Democrats. Ya, RIGHT, i sound like SUCH a puppet. *sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm*

    I am a conservative, and until the Republican party readopts the principles that made this country so prosperous in the 80's, i.e., keeping taxes low, government limited, and not spending out of our means, then I cannot call myself one. I can never call myself a Democrat because I am completely opposed to their "leadership" and ideas including putting the environment ahead of the safety and stability of the economy even though technology is far cleaner/more efficient then it used to be (and not drilling offshore, and thus, not increasing revenue and creating jobs in this country), but bailing failing businesses out, nationalizing industries (by bailing out and taking stake in the big 3 automakers), not doing anything about the defecit, trying to give illegal immigrants amnesty to buy more votes, and spending like there will be no future generations to worry about our irresponsibility and debt. Unexcusable.

    And sorry, rob_just_rob, but my arguments are full of facts and reasons why I don't like the democrat party. Your arguments are an attempt to discredit me and nothing more. Looks like you are arguing based on emotion.

    And OCmusclejock, I will not just give Obama the benefit of the doubt before he has proven himself. Not cool. Not cool especially since the left has spent the last 8 years making fun of Bush, making him look as stupid as possible, slandering him, and opposing/complaining about every choice he made as president. Why can't I view Obama with a skeptical eye when all signs point to "DANGER!"
     
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    Again, instead of arguing any real issues, you argue with me by just trying to discredit me. This gets old real fast with you guys, but you keep it up, because if you were really ACTUALLY informed, you wouldnt be a Democrat.:smile:

    Ad hominum attacks are childish, Vinylboy.

    I didnt support Ron Paul. He was too weak on national defense, and I just dont really like him. Conservative politicians that talk about cutting taxes and strong defense win in landslides, like Reagan. And mark my words, soon enough a politician will emerge that can communicate these concepts and defeat any goons the Democrats are putting up. The republicans dont really follow any conservative ideas, and McCain was known to be a wishy/washy bipartisan loser, so of course a guy like Obama could have won.
     
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    ...but soon the Republicans will regroup, back a charismatic conservative that is solid on the issues, and win in a landslide. The day that happens, I will proudly be able to call myself a Republican.
     
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    But then how can you even say anything when he hasn't done 1 thing yet as president. No one had to make Bush look like an idiot he does that well enough for himself. And he did that for 8 yrs...no one else did that for him. Also, I didn't say you or anyone else couldn't view Obama in any way you choose. My post was the fact it's beating a dead horse and being negative like all the posts since the election. It's over...nothing you can do about it. Why bitch and moan about something to people you dont even know and for those people's first impression of you be as negative as your post when they have nothing to compare it too. Especially since you are new to most of us. As I said in the post...I really don't know why this kind of stuff is even allowed on this forum. You could be the coolest person on earth as far as I know..but from posts like this I would think not... it gets OLD and good people end up leaving or kicked. That is/was the whole point of what I posted.
     
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