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I know what you mean! Oh, wait, what I really meant was,

Ew! You perv! :tongue:

:biggrin1: Glad you understood!


I wonder why you didn't like the copper IUD.

There were a few reasons. I didn't like the idea that it could make my periods worse (the implant can do that, but the risk seems to be lower, and I have less negatives and more positives for the implant). The tiny risk of it perforating the uterus terrified the shit out of me. The risk of infection scared the shit out of me. I'd heard rumours that they can sometimes be felt by larger guys during sex. And the idea of having to check for the string every month gave me the heebies (not particularly logical, I know).

BUT if it was a choice between the copper IUD and the diaphragm (which it would have been if the specialist stuck to his ban on hormonal methods), I would have been going for the IUD. The failure rate for the diaphragm is scary! :eek:


Someone else just asked the same question and I answered him here:
http://www.lpsg.org/221508-large-size-condoms-a-boost.html#post3229130

I think the FDA is trying to protect the public from STDs.

But . . . but . . . if they don't make larger sizes available, they're condemning larger guys and anyone who has sex with them to being at a higher risk of STD exposure!
 

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There is a female condom which may or my not be another option, I had only heard about them a few months ago, probably not the nicest thing, but as I say is another option... not sure where you get them though, never looked for them... here is a website The Female Condom
 

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:biggrin1: Glad you understood!






There were a few reasons. I didn't like the idea that it could make my periods worse (the implant can do that, but the risk seems to be lower, and I have less negatives and more positives for the implant). The tiny risk of it perforating the uterus terrified the shit out of me. The risk of infection scared the shit out of me. I'd heard rumours that they can sometimes be felt by larger guys during sex. And the idea of having to check for the string every month gave me the heebies (not particularly logical, I know).

BUT if it was a choice between the copper IUD and the diaphragm (which it would have been if the specialist stuck to his ban on hormonal methods), I would have been going for the IUD. The failure rate for the diaphragm is scary! :eek:




But . . . but . . . if they don't make larger sizes available, they're condemning larger guys and anyone who has sex with them to being at a higher risk of STD exposure!

I doubt that any guy could actually feel the IUD itself. The device is quite small and it is inside your uterus. But the IUDs have a suture or "thread" that is attached to it and exits the cervix. That allows you or a nurse to feel inside and confirm that the IUD is still there because they can occasionally be expelled during menstruation without the woman noticing.

Years ago, back in the "Dalkon Shield" days, the suture was a nice, soft braided material, like silk. But the braids tended to wick vaginal secretions up into the uterus and increased the risk for endometritis. So now monofilament material is used and that is kind of stiff, like monofilament fishing line.

My wife had a Cu 7 (copper-impregnated) IUD years ago, before she was my wife. The tail of the monofilament suture would occasionally "prick" me right in the glans, and it was a little uncomfortable. That never made me hesitate to get laid, however.

I also had girlfriends who used diaphragms. I would much prefer to take my chances with an IUD suture tail than have sex with a gal using a diaphragm. When you rub against the diaphragm it feels rather creepy, sort of as if you are having sex with an inflatable love doll. Of course, that never stopped me either, and I would still prefer a diaphragm to having to wear a condom. (But for the record, condoms never stopped me either).
 

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I doubt that any guy could actually feel the IUD itself. The device is quite small and it is inside your uterus. But the IUDs have a suture or "thread" that is attached to it and exits the cervix. That allows you or a nurse to feel inside and confirm that the IUD is still there because they can occasionally be expelled during menstruation without the woman noticing.

Years ago, back in the "Dalkon Shield" days, the suture was a nice, soft braided material, like silk. But the braids tended to wick vaginal secretions up into the uterus and increased the risk for endometritis. So now monofilament material is used and that is kind of stiff, like monofilament fishing line.

My wife had a Cu 7 (copper-impregnated) IUD years ago, before she was my wife. The tail of the monofilament suture would occasionally "prick" me right in the glans, and it was a little uncomfortable. That never made me hesitate to get laid, however.

The official line is as you say - that occasionally the string can be felt. But I have heard people say they could feel the IUD itself. Personally, I think it's urban myth, probably stemming from guys getting the prick of the string confused with feeling the actual IUD. But the thought that it MIGHT be otherwise was quite enough to be another point on the list of negatives. Actually, even just feeling the string was enough to be a negative point.


I also had girlfriends who used diaphragms. I would much prefer to take my chances with an IUD suture tail than have sex with a gal using a diaphragm. When you rub against the diaphragm it feels rather creepy, sort of as if you are having sex with an inflatable love doll.

*shudder* Okay, I really felt that!


Of course, that never stopped me either, and I would still prefer a diaphragm to having to wear a condom. (But for the record, condoms never stopped me either).

Casual sex - he's wearing a condom anyway.

I'm just thankful that I didn't have to make a choice between the IUD and the diaphragm in the end. I like hormonal methods.
 

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Pleasure Plus is a very good condom because of the pouch design which, I guess, is intended to replicate skin on skin action. I've used them and it almost feels like you don't have on a condom.
 

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There were a few reasons. I didn't like the idea that it could make my periods worse (the implant can do that, but the risk seems to be lower, and I have less negatives and more positives for the implant). The tiny risk of it perforating the uterus terrified the shit out of me. The risk of infection scared the shit out of me. I'd heard rumours that they can sometimes be felt by larger guys during sex. And the idea of having to check for the string every month gave me the heebies (not particularly logical, I know).

BUT if it was a choice between the copper IUD and the diaphragm (which it would have been if the specialist stuck to his ban on hormonal methods), I would have been going for the IUD. The failure rate for the diaphragm is scary! :eek:

You made me rethink the IUD! It's such a hard decision. I'm also creeped out by the danger of uterus perforation. Yikes! The process of implantation and extraction is also scary. A lot of women vomit afterward, because of that "punched in the gut" feeling you get whenever the doc does anything to the cervix.

I'm leaning more towards the copper IUD right now than anything else, but I may change my mind.

But . . . but . . . if they don't make larger sizes available, they're condemning larger guys and anyone who has sex with them to being at a higher risk of STD exposure!

This is true! There are so few guys on the upper end of the bell curve, that if you're going to make decisions based upon statistical models of disease transmission, then that's the choice that would protect the most people. It's not fair, but it's smart.

Pleasure Plus is a very good condom because of the pouch design which, I guess, is intended to replicate skin on skin action. I've used them and it almost feels like you don't have on a condom.

The reviews say it's a great condom. It didn't work for us, but TheBF is of an unusual size and it fit him like a glove.
 
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You made me rethink the IUD! It's such a hard decision. I'm also creeped out by the danger of uterus perforation. Yikes! The process of implantation and extraction is also scary. A lot of women vomit afterward, because of that "punched in the gut" feeling you get whenever the doc does anything to the cervix.

I'm sure I read that local anesthetics could be given. Surely that would deal with any immediate pain and by the time it wore off, the worst of the pain would be gone. Maybe that's just hopeful thinking.

And don't let me dissuade you!! They were my IUD issues, I don't want you to inherit them!


I'm leaning more towards the copper IUD right now than anything else, but I may change my mind.

Are you staying away from hormonal because of breastfeeding, or for some other reason? If you really have to avoid hormonal, the IUD is the only way to go really. Unless you consider condoms reliable (which I don't).


This is true! There are so few guys on the upper end of the bell curve, that if you're going to make decisions based upon statistical models of disease transmission, then that's the choice that would protect the most people. It's not fair, but it's smart.

Maybe a solution would be to make larger ones available by prescription only. Of course, that would necessitate guys having to prove their size to their doctor, but I think many would find that preferable to having to use too-small condoms.
 

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I'm sure I read that local anesthetics could be given. Surely that would deal with any immediate pain and by the time it wore off, the worst of the pain would be gone. Maybe that's just hopeful thinking.
Oh, I don't know. None of the ladies were that explicit about the procedure. Some just said that they vomited and got ill. That will be me.

And don't let me dissuade you!! They were my IUD issues, I don't want you to inherit them!
You just made me have a hard think about my options again, which is a good thing.

Are you staying away from hormonal because of breastfeeding, or for some other reason? If you really have to avoid hormonal, the IUD is the only way to go really. Unless you consider condoms reliable (which I don't).
Supposedly it's safe to begin hormonal birth control after a few months. My concern is about how my sex drive will be. Hormones make me nervous. When I was on the pill I had an immediate drop in my desire level, and I was extremely unhappy with that. I don't want to have a hormonal IUD implanted, only to have it replaced later on. I want my sex life to return to normal as soon as possible. I just want to get back to swinging from the chandeliers again, so I think I want to go with the copper IUD. Besides, it was sort of fun the way my desire level would reach a peak when I would ovulate and I would become insatiable. That's what I know as normal, and I think that's what was so different on the pill, no natural peaks and valleys in my desire level every month. It was all just "valley" for me.

Maybe a solution would be to make larger ones available by prescription only. Of course, that would necessitate guys having to prove their size to their doctor, but I think many would find that preferable to having to use too-small condoms.
Oh, that would be a good solution! That would be great. They would be outrageously expensive if they were only available by prescription, but I'm sure that some men would be willing to pay.
 
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Oh, I don't know. None of the ladies were that explicit about the procedure. Some just said that they vomited and got ill. That will be me.

If you decide to go for it, ask about that local! Plus pain killers for afterwards.


You just made me have a hard think about my options again, which is a good thing.

S'long as I don't give you an IUD complex :tongue:


Supposedly it's safe to begin hormonal birth control after a few months. My concern is about how my sex drive will be. Hormones make me nervous. When I was on the pill I had an immediate drop in my desire level, and I was extremely unhappy with that.

As you would be!


I don't want to have a hormonal IUD implanted, only to have it replaced later on.

Agreed. Too much ickyness to go through if you might just get it taken out again.


I want my sex life to return to normal as soon as possible. I just want to get back to swinging from the chandeliers again, so I think I want to go with the copper IUD.

Much more reliable than condoms, and you should only use the diaphragm if you WANT children (terrifying failure rate).


Besides, it was sort of fun the way my desire level would reach a peak when I would ovulate and I would become insatiable. That's what I know as normal, and I think that's what was so different on the pill, no natural peaks and valleys in my desire level every month. It was all just "valley" for me.

I was all peak (with a very slight rise at 'ovulation') when I was on the pill, and I've been the same since I've come off it, so I guess my sex drive is reluctant to change :tongue:.

Have you considered trying the implant or injection? They are both estrogen-free, so may not have the same effect on you as the pill (although admittedly, without the estrogen it may be even worse). But the injection only lasts three months, and the implant can be removed at any time if you decide you don't get along with it. Apparently any effects of the implant should wear off within a few days of having it removed. Could be something to try if you aren't 100% sold on the copper IUD.


Oh, that would be a good solution! That would be great. They would be outrageously expensive if they were only available by prescription, but I'm sure that some men would be willing to pay.

Or their partners! :tongue:
 

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This isn't about condoms with pouches, but I thought I would update here since it's relevant to the conversation on IUDs.

If you decide to go for it, ask about that local! Plus pain killers for afterwards.
I asked her, and she said that I wouldn't need any because of how much I dilated during labor.

My doctor convinced me that I should get the Mirena. I told her my concerns and explained what happened on the pill and she told me two things that changed my mind. The first one was that the Mirena doesn't release enough hormones to stop ovulation. Unlike on the pill, a woman with the Mirena still ovulates, so her ovaries still produce testosterone, which is the hormone responsible for desire. That was a relief to discover. Then she told me that she's put in about 100 copper IUDs and about 5 of those women were happy, but she's put in about a thousand Mirena IUDs, and only about 100 of those women were unhappy. Those two facts, combined with the statistical evidence that Mirena protects against certain types of cancer convinced me that I should get it. So, next week, it's going in!

This stuff is so complicated! It's hard to choose.
 

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I asked her, and she said that I wouldn't need any because of how much I dilated during labor.

My doctor convinced me that I should get the Mirena. I told her my concerns and explained what happened on the pill and she told me two things that changed my mind. The first one was that the Mirena doesn't release enough hormones to stop ovulation. Unlike on the pill, a woman with the Mirena still ovulates, so her ovaries still produce testosterone, which is the hormone responsible for desire. That was a relief to discover. Then she told me that she's put in about 100 copper IUDs and about 5 of those women were happy, but she's put in about a thousand Mirena IUDs, and only about 100 of those women were unhappy. Those two facts, combined with the statistical evidence that Mirena protects against certain types of cancer convinced me that I should get it. So, next week, it's going in!

This stuff is so complicated! It's hard to choose.

I've heard a lot of good things about the Mirena. If I were to go for an IUD, it would certainly be my preference.

Good luck with it all! Please keep me updated.

My implanon is still going well. No spotting yet, and I've had it for weeks. First period due soon. I've got my fingers crossed that it's not heavy.
 

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I've heard a lot of good things about the Mirena. If I were to go for an IUD, it would certainly be my preference.

Good luck with it all! Please keep me updated.

My implanon is still going well. No spotting yet, and I've had it for weeks. First period due soon. I've got my fingers crossed that it's not heavy.

You're lucky! I read that your period may stop after a year of using it, too.

I looked up the implant, and it does stop ovulation, and I think that was the cause of my problems. You're lucky that you aren't affected like that, the way that I am. The weird thing is that I remained horny while actually pregnant. According to what I've found, sometimes the Mirena does, too, if I'm unlucky, but I'm willing to gamble. It's all a little bit of a gamble, in one way or another. None of our options are perfect.
 

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You're lucky! I read that your period may stop after a year of using it, too.

Lucky so far. I'm not counting my chickens yet. These are the numbers for bleeding changes:

  • bleeding approximating normal 35%
  • infrequent bleeding 26%
  • amenorrhoea 21%
  • frequent and or prolonged bleeding 18%.
I'm just hoping I'm not in the last 18%. As long as I'm not there, I'll be happy. I'm rather hoping that they'll just disappear though.


I looked up the implant, and it does stop ovulation, and I think that was the cause of my problems. You're lucky that you aren't affected like that, the way that I am.

I'm definitely lucky! It seems my sex drive is set in stone! It may also have been the estrogen in the pill that caused such extreme changes for you.


The weird thing is that I remained horny while actually pregnant.

My mum always says that she did too.


According to what I've found, sometimes the Mirena does, too, if I'm unlucky, but I'm willing to gamble. It's all a little bit of a gamble, in one way or another. None of our options are perfect.

Indeed they aren't. I wish you much luck with the Mirena!
 

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I use Magnum Ecstasy condom and its the best I've ever used and will never use a different one. But obviously everyone's dick is shaped different. It has a big head area, not like a huge pouch, but just roomier shaped like a baseball bat. My head pretty much fills it up, but it's still not tight. It's a magnum so the rest of it is slightly larger and longer as well. Of course the ring is still gonna leave a ring, but that's pretty much unavoidable with all condoms. It's really the only condom where I haven't thought, "damn, I wish I didn't have a condom on" during sex.

I agree with you on that one ;-) ... They are awesome condoms!