Conflicted Gay Christians

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  1. DiscoBoy

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    Young ones, specifically (it loses its novelty as they age). They’re aggravating as fuck.

    Recently, I’ve had a sudden influx of young, conflicted gay Christians approaching me [here on LPSG-- and even in my real life] claiming to be bi-curious, or whatever the fuck the word du jour is, spewing some blatantly queer dick-speak (cock that, body hair this, muscle yada, yada, yada), and of course this is simply the way of LPSG. You entertain them, flirt a bit, answer the typical questions about being gay, describe what it’s like to be with a man in non-platonic circumstances and all that other Good Samaritan shit, since of course, it’s only natural that sexually confused men are going to be attracted to a big dick site. And I shouldn’t be surprised when this sorta situation happens, right? Right….to a certain extent.

    This is where the aggravating Christian part kicks in. Once they’ve busted a nut (or whatever the fuck it is that sets them off), they decide to get completely righteous and get their preach on. All of a sudden, you go from being their object of lust (and amour as some of the more naïve ones will claim) to this misguided, lost soul who has decided to take the ‘easier road’ as opposed to ignoring evil sexual desires. What that means? You’ve chosen to be gay. Now, not only is that downright wrong, it’s incredibly fucking insulting. Not only is it generally rude to go around spreading your views on certain hot topic issues, but to do so after you’ve just partaken in exactly what you’re crusading against is just absurd. You can shove those opinions up your ass. Go devote your good, charitable self to needier causes.

    Anyway, to keep this from being just an angry rant, here’s a couple of questions for discussion:
    What’s your take on these people? Why do you think they do it? Should they do it? Are they justified in any way?
    How should the situation be dealt with? Try to reason with 'em, or just tell 'em to fuck off and ignore them?

    If you’re one of those people, I direct you to the end bit of the preceding paragraph, why do you feel the need to do this? Do you derive some sick pleasure from being a hypocrite? Is it how you validate having indulged in the finer things in life: get naughty and follow up with a good preach-down?

    And for those that have been able to reconcile being gay and Christian, any advice for these confused gits? Especially with what not to say.:rolleyes:
    Any insight on positive views (and their reasons why) that varying churches have taken?



    *Disclaimer: This isn’t in any way directed at gay Christians who have come to learn to unite their religion and sexuality—the title very explicitly states conflicted gay Christians. Nor is it an attack against Christians in general. And if you’re offended, well, you can lick it.*
     
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    *applauds*
    Hahah. So true. I remember a month or so ago, I'd realized I had a profile here and started visiting again. I went into a chat and got pm'd by a nice guy, didn't assume anything, just started asking questions. When I found out he was "straight" I just started talking about the news, but was pretty flabergasted when he started asking for cock pics. I went along, but quickly began to wonder if it was the norm.

    In my experience, especially going to university in the South, its a pretty frequent phenomenon. The Christian fundamentalists who, ideally might be entirely different perople if not for their religious/social indoctrinization comes undone, "relapses" and lets their sexual realities get the better of them, and then take that socialization out on both you and them once their programming kicks back in. I've known quite a few guys during school that would say the same sorts of things...after kissing me, or groping me, or sucking me off while having "too much to drink"... it always made me sad for them.
     
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    ^ Last paragraph is good. Sexual desires get the better of them, then try to compensate when their religious programming kicks in once more. It's probably a more tortuous situation for them than for you - and a hard psychological prison to escape from.

    Repent damn you! *for making me bust a nut*.
     
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    I believe it comes with age, your age....at first you will have time and will to deal with it, and be helpful, more than helpful...And yes, it ends up just like you said. In time you will realise that you are NOT a charity organisation and if they wanna bust a nut they should watch some porn, because you know the ending of that story. And the fact that you have the time to waste, it`s your time and you won`t be wasting it on them. I`m sorry to bring up your age, but the same thing happened to me when I was younger. And when I had more will. In time, you`ll just learn to ignore it.
     
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    I'm trying to steer clear of guys like this, but there seem to be a lot of them. My experience with this sort always made me feel badly for them, then for myself, then...just annoyed at the "Let's not forget who sucked off whom." irony of the experience. I imagine you're right though, the bigger mind fuck is going on in their heads. Not usually worth the engagement though.
     
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    I think it's basically a way to satisfy strong desires while not taking responsibility for (or atoning for) something they've been led to believe is terribly awful. :/
     
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    One of the reasons why a lot of people are annoyed at the 100% or 99% "straight" guys who get off on sex with dudes but don't consider themselves gay or even bi. They get to have sex with dudes, but not claim status in an oppressed (if you will) minority. They get to get their rocks off, but not own up to the fact that they're different. It's quite irritating.
     
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    Oh, I've no doubt that they're dealing with quite a bit more than I am in those situations, but quite simply, don't involve me [or others] in your craziness.

    Quite frankly, if your religion doesn't allow you to be who you are, then I think you may need to reconsider what you believe in. That's just such an unhealthy way to live.
     
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    If I am understand disco correctly (no small feat :tongue:)....


    Don't do "cock speak" and sometimes even "play", and then turn around and spew anti Man on Man venom based on religion, aka "Christianity


    Do I get the prize?? :biggrin1:
     
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    I have a question sorry to detour for a moment, but how can someone have sex with or blow someone and call themselves straight? Not saying we need labels, but I think it's crazy that people do this.

    And just because I'm bored and I'm not a man I feel the need to respond and tell you what I told a pastor who was trying to convience me my bi/ gay friends were going to burn in hell and I needed to pray for their souls. I told him whatever GOD you believe in you need to decide if you think he would send hell, fire and brimstone upon your so called "sinners" or if he is a kind and forgiving GOD. And I also told him before he preached to me about the sins of my friends he needed to remember that the bible also teachs forgiveness and that you should not judge other people unless you want to be judged. I stopped going to any type of church along time ago because of this. I simply do not believe for one moment that someone is going to burn in hell for loving someone of the same sex. It's ridiculous and out-dated and preached by people who are scared of people who are different.
     
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    Exactly. These people need to man the fuck up.

    When you throw religion into the mix, these people are actually celebrated for having taken the "more difficult" road and repressing their evil desires (of course, totally discounting their relapses). It's backwards and fucking stupid.

    You sure do! Pass GO, take $200, and accept your complimentary "Get Out of Hell Free" card!:biggrin1:

    Well, they shouldn't be able to, but they can, and they do. And y'a know, it wouldn't be such an issue if the only people they were affecting were themselves, but in a lot of cases, it's more than just the conflicted party that get hurt (when these situations become ongoing and grow to become something a little more than physical).

    When taken to the extreme, it can be pretty heart-breaking. We've all heard tales of men/women suddenly leaving their same-sex significant others to up and start a family. It's always fueled by this notion that they are in fact straight.

    Preach baby, preach!:biggrin1:
     
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    As I've mentioned in another thread about casual sex with someone who claims to be pious, there's a world of difference between having a spiritually-centered life and what has been called "Christianist" dogma (Fundamentalism).

    Anyone who claims to have all the answers to life's questions figured out is a simplistic idiot, and I find idiots singularly unattractive, thanks.
     
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    Adults who still believe in fairy tales creep me out.
     
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    That's your choice. You have the right to believe what you believe, and others have the right to believe what they believe. You certainly have the right to believe that religions are a bunch of fairy tales, but I'd be really careful about telling people they believe in fairy tales.
     
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    I nail their cocks to the dining room table and leave.
     
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    I don't think it is a fundamentalist thing, it is peculiarly an American phenomenon where people have a public person that they guard. I am guessing an unsure, naive or just socially unadjusted pagan, heathen or even heretic would.
     
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    The way fundamentailst christianity collides with modernism is a peculiarly AMrican phenomenon. It often involves a lot of self-mind-fuck.
    I recall quite a few years ago I was working at a center for teens and a young man f sixteen confided in me that his girlfriend was pregnant. We discussed the situation and various options, etc.... Then I politely asked him if they have considered birth control. He responded with seeming total sincerity and total lack of irony: "Oh no! We don't believe in premarital sex."
    Go figure!!!!
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    These self-hating people are sad, lost souls. Just leave'em be. Some will hopefully liberate themselves from their self-loathing doctrines. As for the rest, that's a can of worms you really don't want to go near.
     
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    Stewie to Brian: "Homosexuality is wrong. You don't see me flaunting my heterosexuality around".

    Brian to Stewie: "No, I do not".

    Stewie: "Doesn't anyone read the bible, anymore? LEVITICUS 14:22!".

    Brian: "Stewie, you're just spewing bible quotes, and you don't even know how to read!"

    Stewie: "Welcome to America, Brian!".
     
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    I say FUCK the christians. Seriously, literally and figuratively.
     
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