Conservative Hypocrisy

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He points it all out in the video, but the party of law and order is telling people to break the law. Conservative hypocrisy at its finest.

Conservative thinking has always been full of this kind of hypocrisy. It's the only way their ridiculous worldview can work. One of my favorites from college, this was pre-Obamacare, was the idea that if we have universal healthcare the government will choose your doctor for you and that's bad, but it's okay for insurance companies to choose your doctor for you because otherwise everyone would go to the best doctors and the system would collapse. This was a real argument someone had.
 

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The biggest one for me: Pro-life bullshit.

It was never about life being sacred. Covid-19 proved that. Kids in cages proved that. Refusing to cover every american with healthcare proved that. The lack of fucks they have to give about civilians we kill with our wars in the middle east that are still happening as I type this pointless post...

Fuck out my face with your fake concern for human life. All you want is to control my body and sexuality. I would pity you if you were worth a single fuck, but really, you fucking aren't.

Edit: to those who truly believe that abortion is child murder... Please educate yourself and stop thinking with your emotions. Facts don't care about you feelings.
 

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The biggest one for me: Pro-life bullshit.

It was never about life being sacred. Covid-19 proved that. Kids in cages proved that. Refusing to cover every american with healthcare proved that. The lack of fucks they have to give about civilians we kill with our wars in the middle east that are still happening as I type this pointless post...

Fuck out my face with your fake concern for human life. All you want is to control my body and sexuality. I would pity you if you were worth a single fuck, but really, you fucking aren't.

Edit: to those who truly believe that abortion is child murder... Please educate yourself and stop thinking with your emotions. Facts don't care about you feelings.

I'm afraid that you are trying to be rational with people who believe that there is a divine law to which all people should be subject.

Be grateful they're not allowed to think it's his will to burn you alive anymore.
 

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I'm afraid that you are trying to be rational with people who believe that there is a divine law to which all people should be subject.

Be grateful they're not allowed to think it's his will to burn you alive anymore.

Oh...they still THINK it. I'd wager there are several current Senators and congressmen who wish they still could do that sort of thing. It's one of those things I can't prove to be true, but...just know, y'know?

They WANT to, and believe God would sanction it. They just aren't allowed to DO it.

At least until they finish taking over in the name of Republican, gun-lovin', queer-hatin', white Jesus...which they've been trying since dominionism got going in the late 60's/early 70's. They've had no small amount of success, given the dumbing down and defunding of public education, the takeover of the courts, the attempts at taking over of the military, the discrediting of non-religious news and media, the destruction of public faith in the government, and so on...

Thankfully, despite stumbling into success almost despite themselves, they have never managed to ACTUALLY take hold on the larger stage. After all, no matter how hard Moscow Mitch tries to hand the US over to the fundamentalists, he can only muster enough support to do nothing and stall when hes forced to play fair. He only wins when he cheats, really.

And that's because most people aren't hateful, selfish, mentally unbalanced, or just stupid enough to believe that Jesus wants his followers to lie and spread hate, division and violence in his name.

Anyway, f*** fundamentalism, but dont kid yourself into thinking that they no longer want us all dead. They do. They've just gotten better about putting on the slasher smile and pretending they have souls for a while.
 

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Education has not kept pace with the local and global reach afforded elected leaders. The perverters of democracy have already laid the groundwork of hatred towards liberal elites such as me. Liberal elite in this case simply means an educated person who disagrees with them.

At the risk of being repetitive, liberals in currently liberal democracies need to wake up fast and communicate equally with the 50% who are below the average intelligence. As liberals we tend to debate pros and cons to the nth degree, we look at both sides of arguments in order to come to a balanced and rational decision or choice. Not in Trump land. In Trump land, things are black and white, positions can be communicated in three words. Jesus loves you. Jesus hates them. If you throw in America, you can use four words. Make America Great Again. Socialists will destroy America.

It's a tough one for educated liberals. Do we descend to this level?
 

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That is the very justification of the decision against these specific impositions by the governor. They were judged as not religiously neutral.

Fortunately, viruses strictly observe the distinction between church and state, so all those assembled congregations should be fine.
 

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Fortunately, viruses strictly observe the distinction between church and state, so all those assembled congregations should be fine.

There was a Greek Orthodox Priest who insisted that it was fine to share communion wine as it had been blessed by God. I think the Serbian Patriarch died of Covid after taking communion. Religion 0 Darwin 1
 

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I didn't know that freedom of religion meant that their temples were above the law. It's strange concept. Stranger than the religious beliefs themselves. I thought maybe they need to keep the tithes coming in, but that's all digital by now, no? Can't they do their worshipping at home for a few weeks? Sermons can be over Zoom. I'm 100% sure that if Jesus were here today he would tell them to go pray at home and quit spreading pestilence around. And then he'd throw the money men out.

WTF is wrong with people that they can't do without a little bit? The country would have a collective meltdown if they had to go through what my parents went through on the homefront in WW2. Ration cards and lights out at dark? Keep your mouth shut about the war efforts even when the Queen Mary was right out in the harbor loading troops? LOL. Never happen these days. Some Karen would want to fight about her rights.

Joe Biden has the worst job in the world trying to keep from all spiraling down the shithole... good luck.
 

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Hasn't it always been this way though? Like, free religion for Christians, but not Muslims. Can't force me to bake a cake for gays/lesbians, but how dare you refuse service to someone who has a MAGA hat on. It's my body, so why should I have to wear a mask to protect others around me? Buuuuut you HAVE to have a baby even if you were raped or the birth of the baby would result in your and the baby's death. Oh, and also you can't wear hijabs because they make ME uncomfortable. It's ridiculous how bold so many of these types of people have become during this presidency.
 
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Hasn't it always been this way though? Like, free religion for Christians, but not Muslims. Can't force me to bake a cake for gays/lesbians, but how dare you refuse service to someone who has a MAGA hat on. It's my body, so why should I have to wear a mask to protect others around me? Buuuuut you HAVE to have a baby even if you were raped or the birth of the baby would result in your and the baby's death. Oh, and also you can't wear hijabs because they make ME uncomfortable. It's ridiculous how bold so many of these types of people have become during this presidency.
It’s because the Trump/Pence administration has been the fulfillment of the Seven Mountains/Dominionists theology that took over the Republican Party at the same time the racists did. The Southern Strategy of the Nixon administration was a plan to build a coalition of wealthy Southern (and therefore, racist asses, like Storm Thurmond) landowners who were unhappy with the left-leaning of the Democratic Party, ‘Christian’ fundamentalists following the Prosperity Doctrine and the Seven Mountains plan laid out by an influential Calvinist televangelist, and poor whites. The wealthy racists provided the financing, the religious fundamentalists primes an army of poor, under-educated whites across America through their corruption of the pulpit, and the poor, uneducated whites were easily manipulated by fear and their lack of understanding of the greater world around them.

Ever since, the right has pulled harder and harder towards a Calvinist ‘utopia’, even as the rest of the nation leans more leftward, when their votes are actually counted instead of being tampered with or denied by right wing cheats.
 

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You are correct, they should have kept their nose out of it.

I did not say that SCOTUS is irrelevant to these sorts of situations. I said that it's the job of the legislative and executive branches of the government to make decisions to promote the end of disease control. The role of courts is just to interpret the law. The decision that SOCTUS made had nothing to do with what does or does not contribute to disease control. It was a judgment that a certain decision of the Governor of New York fell afoul of religious neutrality stipulations in the US constitution.
 

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I didn't know that freedom of religion meant that their temples were above the law.

The SCOTUS judgment was not that religious organizations have an unqualified right to congregate in whatever way they please, regardless of circumstances.

The judgment was that the Governor of New York had imposed more severe regulations on religious gatherings than on other sorts of gatherings, and thereby failed to impose regulations impartially.
 

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A lot of the time people thinking their ideological rivals are hypocrites results from a lack of genuine understanding of their actions, statements, and the thoughts/attitudes that underlie them.
 
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In Conservate-ville you can brand yourself pro-life while being pro-death and medieval at it to boot. Once that life is out of the womb it's fair "game" for all kinds of ways to die with state approval. You'd think Trump would be content with the number of dead Americans under his watch but nope.

The Justice Department is giving itself wider latitude in how it can execute federal inmates facing death sentences, including by using electrocution, gas or firing squads in certain circumstances.

The department on Friday published a final rule change — set to take effect Dec. 24 — to its protocols that would permit executions by injection “or by any other manner prescribed by the law of the State in which the sentence was imposed.”

Justice Dept. rule change could allow federal executions by electrocution or firing squad