Coronavirus Covid-19

[dandelion]

The FB friend doesn't seem to understand that even if you get the vaccine, you could still be a carrier and need to take precautions.

So just what was the point of all this vaccinating? Its made some vaccine manufacturers rich(er). But allowed normal life to resume? er....no.

 

[rbkwp]

GOOD FORTUNES BRITS
dont mind saying now,your likelydoing as well/better even,than my beloved Australlia
esp where vacination is concerned

 

[edonline]

Local 28 Sheet Metal Worker Demetrius Buttelman gestures after being inoculated with the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine during a news conference, at the pop up vaccination site at Belmont Park in Elmont, New York. Mary Altaffer/Pool

 

[rbkwp]

sanitation 2021
and why not
the world is still pissing around as individual glory seeking types,instead of really working to-gether huh

 

[rbkwp]

Local 28 Sheet Metal Worker Demetrius Buttelman gestures after being inoculated with the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine during a news conference, at the pop up vaccination site at Belmont Park in Elmont, New York. Mary Altaffer/Pool

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cool
many need the inspiration

 

[Player_01]

So just what was the point of all this vaccinating? Its made some vaccine manufacturers rich(er). But allowed normal life to resume? er....no.

Vaccinated people can gather in their own places unmaksed and soon (if enough people get them) even have mass gatherings like comic cons, but that doesn't mean you can enter a hospital setting without masks (which nursing homes are basically) since anyone there could have a compromised immune system and not be vaccinated.

I have the feeling hospitals will probably just always require masks. They might as well since they prevent other diseases from being spread too, not just Covid. Ours gives out disposable masks to anyone entering the building: appointments, blood tests, visiting patients, everyone gets one. You never have to worry about forgetting yours because they have someone with a box right at the entrance.

Local 28 Sheet Metal Worker Demetrius Buttelman gestures after being inoculated with the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine during a news conference, at the pop up vaccination site at Belmont Park in Elmont, New York. Mary Altaffer/Pool

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If his boner lasts more than 4 hours, I'd be happy to help him with it

 

[dandelion]

I have the feeling hospitals will probably just always require masks.

Hospitals were once designed to physically reduce cross infection. Now we have sealed units with no ventilation. Its because we have become reliant on drugs to cure anything which comes along.

Covid will in due course be no more dangerous than colds or flu. So why introduce masks everywhere?

And did I mention that by themslevs, there really isnt much evidence masks made much difference in stopping spread in hospitals.

Multiple person wards have been a problem because patients cross infect. This is something the NHS was already aware of and had been trying to design out of new hospitals. We have relied upon essentially a hot bed system, where no bed is ever unoccupied - which obviously has led to crowding and capacity shortage in this emergency. The implication is hospitals need to be physically bigger - but government has sold off many traditional large hospital sites and shrunk their scale.

Anyone really think this policy is going to change post covid? Space costs money and is regarded in normal circumstances as a waste.

 

[rbkwp]

just sasyin
never going to be to soon
as far as the dastaedlr cv,is concerned huh

ps
i expecr lips,eveb ours of colour/color usa,go with/are com[patible with mashs duh

 

[DiamondJoe]

Covid-19 in India: Why second coronavirus wave is devastating

 

[rbkwp]

Otters just tested positive for the coronavirus
Critters around the world have contracted the coronavirus, and some apes are even vaccinated.

BY HANNAH SEO APRIL 20, 2021

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looks like we humankind are giving it back to our anima;s npw
naughty,of us huh

 

[rbkwp]

COVID-19 coronavirus update
Vaccines and children
Scientists are seeking answers to important questions about how safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines are in children by launching the first COVID-19 vaccine trials in this age group. Studies will examine whether children’s immune systems respond differently, scrutinize any possible safety concerns and consider how the jab might interact with other crucial childhood vaccinations.

Nature | 7 min read
More than 20 million years of life lost
The death toll of COVID-19 is an unfathomable tragedy: more than three million people. Another way to quantify those losses is by considering how premature the deaths were. Researchers estimate that COVID-19 has taken more than 20.5 million years of life. Starting with the story of one lost life — that of 13-year-old Anna Carter in Oklahoma — The New York Times examines how this measure helps us to understand the pandemic’s terrible toll.

The New York Times | 8 min read
Read more: Three million COVID deaths is a grim milestone (Nature | 3 min read)
Reference: Scientific Reports paper
CORONAVIRUS RESEARCH HIGHLIGHTS: 1-MINUTE READS

Read more about these studies in Nature ’s continuously updated selection of the must-read papers and preprints.

Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine versus variants
To see whether vaccines were still effective against worrying variants of SARS-CoV-2, researchers looked at infections among several hundred people in Israel who had already received at least one dose of the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine. Among people still waiting for their second dose, these rare ‘breakthrough infections’ were slightly more likely to be caused by the B.1.1.7 variant than were those in unvaccinated people. Among fully vaccinated people, the small number who got tested positive were disproportionately infected with the B.1.351 variant. The results suggest that the vaccine might be slightly less effective against those variants, at least in those particular time windows.
(Reference: medRxiv preprint — not peer reviewed)

Common asthma medicine could shave days off illness
A clinical trial in more than 4,600 people at risk of serious COVID-19 found that an inhalable asthma medication shortened the duration of disease symptoms by about 3 days. The asthma drug — budesonide — is an inexpensive and widely available inhalable steroid.
(Reference: medRxiv preprint — not peer reviewed)

Get more of Nature’s continuously updated selection of the must-read papers and preprints on COVID-19.
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clever/selfish humamkind spemding time thimking of our childrem mow huh

 

[rbkwp]

INDIA

sorrow/weeep
crying for you,amonfst others
selfish countries,thruout the world
some
likely cant wait,to get back into regular waes to kill all and sundry
with excuses/bullshit reasons


ps
thread obviously not of importance to comment on CV
but
poor old phil continues to cop it,even on death

 

[edonline]

Republican senator claims there’s ‘no reason to be pushing’ Covid vaccines

Ron Johnson, who has no medical expertise or background, made comments during interview with conservative talk radio host

Republican senator claims there’s ‘no reason to be pushing’ Covid vaccines

 

[dandelion]

Republican senator claims there’s ‘no reason to be pushing’ Covid vaccines

In the article Senator Johnson says there is no reason for him to be vaccinated because he had covid last year. Prof Neil Ferguson is much quoted in the Uk as an expert on covid and what to do, and nowadays rather tends to follow the government line in public statements. He was an original member of the Sage team of government advisors, but was forced to resign when after having had covid himself, he visited his girlfriend against regulations. He stated in his defence that since he had had it already, there was no risk to anyone wherever he went.

Johnson says there is no reason for younger people to be vaccinated because thay are at negligible personal risk. He is right in that one too.

The argument for vaccinating everyone is to create herd immunity. Which is when so many people are immune the virus just dies out because it cannot find new people to infect. The idea is that it cannot then reach anyone who has not been vaccinated, because it cannot reach anyone. The flaw of course is that if everyone at risk has been vaccinated, then what is the problem.

The problem I see about trying to create herd immunity is that it is not how the human immune system is designed to work to best protect us. It creates a broad immunity to different targets within an invading organism which are milder than a vaccine seeks to create, but because they attack many targets are more likely to continue to work if the organism mutates. Then, because the defnce is milder it still allows mall infections to take place: when one does the immune system can update its defences naturally against any significant changes. the goal is so we are never surprised by a completely unknown strain attacking us and causing mass death.

Covid did not cause mass death beause we already had immunity, and that is because of our broad strategy against invading organisms. We were protected because covid is similar to other corona viruses which circulate in society. that saved us.

Now the plan is to try to eradicate covid. It wont work. it just means covid wil hide out somewhere until it makes enough mutations to come back hard, once it has overcome the deep but limited narrow protection this bunch of vccines has been designed to create.

The vaccines are designed to give complete protection until they fail, and then you have to buy a new one. The human system is designed to ensure we never need medical intervention but also never get more sick than annual colds. Our overall immune situation is probably somewhat worse now than 1.5 years ago, even for people who have had covid and so boosted themselve against that one. Because we have deliberately halted the natual process which protects us from all comers.

For some illnesses where the organism hardly mutates much at all, it is possible to create herd immunity. But for viruses it isnt. they change too fast.

 

[EagleCowboy]

Is no one going to take me up on my very simple challenge??

 

[rbkwp]

BOASTFUL NATIONS/POLITICIANS ALL
Aussie no where up with the play,as they promised

western democracy/pretend nations,are not as cracked up,as they proclaim to be
and
unfortunately indias/modi,is not a patch on Cns/Xi
proof is in how the people are suffering


lies lies lies galore
whil Ru/Cn,gwt on with there bussiness

Luis Ascui/AAP
Here are 9 ways we can make it easier for Australians to get the COVID-19 vaccine

Carissa Bonner, University of Sydney; Rachael Dodd, University of Sydney

There are tangible things we can do now to help people understand the benefits and possible risks of COVID-19 vaccination.

 

[rbkwp]

Is no one going to take me up on my very simple challenge??

can you repeat it here ec/save one looking for it
like western democracy countries,i am not able to readily locate anything huh

 

[dandelion]

Starting with the story of one lost life — that of 13-year-old Anna Carter in Oklahoma

I wonder why they chose to start with a 13 year old, when so very few 13 year olds have died? Why didnt they talk about the great majority of people dying who were already in their last year or years of life? So even if there had been no covid, if they died in the first outbreak they would likely have been dead by now anyway. Average life expectancy in UK 81, Average age at death from covid last year, 82.

 

[DiamondJoe]

I wonder why they chose to start with a 13 year old, when so very few 13 year olds have died? Why didnt they talk about the great majority of people dying who were already in their last year or years of life? So even if there had been no covid, if they died in the first outbreak they would likely have been dead by now anyway. Average life expectancy in UK 81, Average age at death from covid last year, 82.

We've had this conversation sooooo many times. The way you represent the death figure is woefully misleading and, as per, demonstrates an inability to follow stats and that callous disregard for life that we know you for on these pages...

 

[rbkwp]

I wonder why they chose to start with a 13 year old, when so very few 13 year olds have died? Why didnt they talk about the great majority of people dying who were already in their last year or years of life? So even if there had been no covid, if they died in the first outbreak they would likely have been dead by now anyway. Average life expectancy in UK 81, Average age at death from covid last year, 82.

tiring of it all dands
bi one british,bothers mentioning re your pm,bj jonson,muttering

he would sooner see 888s dead,than another lockdown

or some such dictatorial pseudo democracy shiy

plus my Aus,still fucking around with there useless/hopeless fearfulmis-handling of C