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It’s really not. I’m not disrespecting people
who have had chemo. They think that’s there best course of action because that’s what we’ve been taught.

Steve Jobs tried the holistic route and look where he is now.

But please, go ahead and continue showing us how far up your ass you’ve traveled.
 

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And I'm not naming any names but some here smirked at the blue states as they fought the virus and now incredibly they have fallen silent as the virus ravages red states. How can that be? Oh it be alright.


Florida Smirked at New York’s Virus Crisis. Now It Has Its Own.
With infections surging in Florida while they retreat in New York, the two states and their governors reflect the shifting course of the pandemic.

In late April, as new coronavirus cases in Florida were steadily decreasing, Gov. Ron DeSantis began crowing how his state had tamed the pandemic.

He credited his decision to impose a state-specific quarantine on New York, then the epicenter of the nation’s outbreak. The move earned him praise in the White House and the ire of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York.

Months later, Mr. Cuomo has clearly not forgotten.

You played politics with this virus and you lost,” Mr. Cuomo said on Thursday when asked in an interview about Mr. DeSantis’s earlier boasts.

The folks who kept saying "If you're scared, stay home", are about to learn a bitter lesson
 
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Well, Trump managed to get his big travel ban after all. Only problem is it's against us. Even China made the cut.

BRUSSELS — European diplomats are poised to approve an agreement on which foreign travelers they want to welcome starting July 1 as the European Union reopens its external borders for the first time since March. But with the coronavirus still raging in the United States, the possibility of allowing American tourists hasn't even figured into the discussion, according to six diplomats familiar with the talks.

Europe’s draft in-and-out list reflects its assessment of how well other countries have managed to control their outbreaks. E.U. countries were among the world’s hardest-hit by the pandemic this spring, but most now have the virus under control and have been willing to consider opening their borders to other countries where the novel coronavirus is similarly in check.

China is among the 15 countries set to make the cut, despite E.U. skepticism about how transparent it has been about its outbreak.

Europe prepares to reopen to foreign travelers, but Americans don’t even figure into the discussion
 

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Well, Trump managed to get his big travel ban after all. Only problem is it's against us. Even China made the cut.

BRUSSELS — European diplomats are poised to approve an agreement on which foreign travelers they want to welcome starting July 1 as the European Union reopens its external borders for the first time since March. But with the coronavirus still raging in the United States, the possibility of allowing American tourists hasn't even figured into the discussion, according to six diplomats familiar with the talks.

Europe’s draft in-and-out list reflects its assessment of how well other countries have managed to control their outbreaks. E.U. countries were among the world’s hardest-hit by the pandemic this spring, but most now have the virus under control and have been willing to consider opening their borders to other countries where the novel coronavirus is similarly in check.

China is among the 15 countries set to make the cut, despite E.U. skepticism about how transparent it has been about its outbreak.

Europe prepares to reopen to foreign travelers, but Americans don’t even figure into the discussion


And nor should we. Trump and his band of sycophant governors like DeSantis and Abbott have fucked this country right in the street. Florida and Texas are so fucked it's not even funny.
 

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All I’m pointing out is that when you wear a mask your oxygen intake is lowered. Not saying it will kill you. And do you agree with every article you read from CNN or whatnot?
Then explain how medical workers, sanitation workers, tattooists, nail technicians etc...all wear masks for hours on end daily and have zero issues with low oxygen. Literally for decades. I don’t follow CNN like gospel, or any specific outlet, but I do make efforts to read from people who are reasonably educated and have a history of decent work. Or, in cases like this regarding masks, I ask the many workers I know who currently wear and who did wear (retired) masks on the regular. Believe it or not, not a single person has run into oxygen shortages whilst masked. And if you need to know, the three I recently spoke to were a tattoo artist, nursing home nurse (who had Covid and now recovered), a cardiac nurse, personal trainer, and a retired nursing home nurse.
 

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Then explain how medical workers, sanitation workers, tattooists, nail technicians etc...all wear masks for hours on end daily and have zero issues with low oxygen. Literally for decades. I don’t follow CNN like gospel, or any specific outlet, but I do make efforts to read from people who are reasonably educated and have a history of decent work. Or, in cases like this regarding masks, I ask the many workers I know who currently wear and who did wear (retired) masks on the regular. Believe it or not, not a single person has run into oxygen shortages whilst masked. And if you need to know, the three I recently spoke to were a tattoo artist, nursing home nurse (who had Covid and now recovered), a cardiac nurse, personal trainer, and a retired nursing home nurse.
Again, not saying their gonna kill you, but your oxygen levels are decreased, fact. Remember when all those people didn’t wear masks. Some as recently as a few months ago.
 

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Then explain how medical workers, sanitation workers, tattooists, nail technicians etc...all wear masks for hours on end daily and have zero issues with low oxygen. Literally for decades. I don’t follow CNN like gospel, or any specific outlet, but I do make efforts to read from people who are reasonably educated and have a history of decent work. Or, in cases like this regarding masks, I ask the many workers I know who currently wear and who did wear (retired) masks on the regular. Believe it or not, not a single person has run into oxygen shortages whilst masked. And if you need to know, the three I recently spoke to were a tattoo artist, nursing home nurse (who had Covid and now recovered), a cardiac nurse, personal trainer, and a retired nursing home nurse.
My liberal dentist didn’t wear a mask until like 1 year ago. This has been a slow progression. Swine, h1n1, etc. Use your brain, dude.
 

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I mean it doesn’t take a math scientist to realize that more tests equals more cases. Cases, not hospitalizations. But of course “they’ve” done some studies and it’s not from the increased testing. Of course not. Use your brains y’all
 

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And nor should we. Trump and his band of sycophant governors like DeSantis and Abbott have fucked this country right in the street. Florida and Texas are so fucked it's not even funny.
Have you been to those places? Have you seen the deaths? Do you know anyone that has died?
 

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Then explain how medical workers, sanitation workers, tattooists, nail technicians etc...all wear masks for hours on end daily and have zero issues with low oxygen. Literally for decades. I don’t follow CNN like gospel, or any specific outlet, but I do make efforts to read from people who are reasonably educated and have a history of decent work. Or, in cases like this regarding masks, I ask the many workers I know who currently wear and who did wear (retired) masks on the regular. Believe it or not, not a single person has run into oxygen shortages whilst masked. And if you need to know, the three I recently spoke to were a tattoo artist, nursing home nurse (who had Covid and now recovered), a cardiac nurse, personal trainer, and a retired nursing home nurse.
 

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Again, not saying their gonna kill you, but your oxygen levels are decreased, fact. Remember when all those people didn’t wear masks. Some as recently as a few months ago.
Yes, people didn’t wear masks in areas. 100% factual. And areas that had higher mask rates and practiced better social distancing/quarantining have had a quicker and better reduction in infections. My area was one of the first and worst hit in the beginning and we are now, because of masks/quarantine/distancing, in damn good shape, considering. Our positive rates are 2-4%.

The point I was making is that even if a mask technically reduces your oxygen, it’s so low that it has no negative impact on the person wearing one.
 

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Yes, people didn’t wear masks in areas. 100% factual. And areas that had higher mask rates and practiced better social distancing/quarantining have had a quicker and better reduction in infections. My area was one of the first and worst hit in the beginning and we are now, because of masks/quarantine/distancing, in damn good shape, considering. Our positive rates are 2-4%.

The point I was making is that even if a mask technically reduces your oxygen, it’s so low that it has no negative impact on the person wearing one.
Well for one you don’t know that. Low oxygen levels could have long term effects. And I’ve never seen a garbage man wear a mask until now. Most tattoo artist never did and still don’t. Only at the new fancy ones so they can look all professional. Nurses and doctors wear them for show because they’ve never been proven to prevent or do anything. I’ve never seen a personal trainer wear one until now.
 

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Well for one you don’t know that. Low oxygen levels could have long term effects. And I’ve never seen a garbage man wear a mask until now. Most tattoo artist never did and still don’t. Only at the new fancy ones so they can look all professional. Nurses and doctors wear them for show because they’ve never been proven to prevent or do anything. I’ve never seen a personal trainer wear one until now.
Basically just saying you should have put “ for decades”.
 

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Have you been to those places? Have you seen the deaths? Do you know anyone that has died?
Died? Yes, friends family members. More that have recovered. One dad was in a ventilator for a month.Been where, the hospital? Nursing home? Tattoo parlor? No, why the hell would I visit a high infection area? Plus, they aren’t letting in visitors anyway. Tattoo parlors just opened, and I have no plans to get any, so no to that, too. So I can ask to see the Covid dead? Is this your “slick” way of saying that since I didn’t see the dead, I can’t prove it? You are right, before I claim this is real, I have to ask to see a corpse and death certificate, how dumb of me.
 
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Died? Yes, friends family members. More that have recovered. One dad was in a ventilator for a month.Been where, the hospital? Nursing home? Tattoo parlor? No, why the hell would I visit a high infection area? Plus, they aren’t letting in visitors anyway. Tattoo parlors just opened, and I have no plans to get any, so no to that, too. So I can ask to see the Covid dead? Is this your “slick” way of saying that since I didn’t see the dead, I can’t prove it? You are right, before I claim this is real, I have to ask to see a corpse and death certificate, how dumb of me.
That was a reply to someone else. I don’t know anyone that has it, much less died.
 

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Well for one you don’t know that. Low oxygen levels could have long term effects. And I’ve never seen a garbage man wear a mask until now. Most tattoo artist never did and still don’t. Only at the new fancy ones so they can look all professional. Nurses and doctors wear them for show because they’ve never been proven to prevent or do anything. I’ve never seen a personal trainer wear one until now.
Ok, let’s assume you are in on big medicine and that masks are smoke and mirrors and never served a purpose other than optics. Does that change the fact that there as been no documented, legitimate case of long term damage from masks brought forward?
 
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