Coronavirus

[gr8gatsby]

^ brainwashed slave ... the baby blood drinkers own you

You must be suffering from the moronavirus

 

[Industrialsize]

I'm just finishing my morning adrenochrome, though my supply is low, I'll go to the pizza store for more.....

 

[ConanTheBarber]

I'm just finishing my morning adrenochrome, though my supply is low, I'll go to the pizza store for more.....

I thought you had enough.
Way more than enough ....

 

[keenobserver]

I'm just finishing my morning adrenochrome, though my supply is low, I'll go to the pizza store for more.....

Does Little Caesar's offer 'adrenochome, adrenochrome'?

 

[dandelion]

Wearing the mask, so far, has not killed me. It will not kill you, either.

It is just possible it might. People do not get an active covid infection unless they receive more than a certain dose of virus. Thus we are told to keep a certain distance apart where it is reckoned we will not get a sufficient dose to infect. Wearing a mask is supposed to reduce the amount of virus blown out, but it does not guarantee by how much, nor is there any information at all how much closer you could be if you wear a mask. We have always been told that masks are not a substitute for any other measures. It does not make you safe. What they do is give a false sense of security, and frankly where I live it is all people are observing.

On the other hand, if you are distancing enough to be safe, then the mask will still reduce the dose you get. Every time someone is exposed to a little bit of covid, it enters the body and you start building immunity. You get a bit more safe for when in the future you do get a big enough dose to fall ill. You get a head start in developing that immunity, so that the disease when you do get it will be less severe. You get a vaccination, the natural way.

This is most likely one of the reason why diseases appear to get less severe as they go on, because everyone has built a bit of immunity. another reason is that the most susceptible will on.y need a lower dose to become infected, so they will tend to catch it first. So the most susceptible end up ill first, with the worst cases. And as the epdemic goes on, what with cases all round being milder, average exposure falls and fewer people get a very big dose to start off. A big initial dose means more likely to get a severe case.

The survival rate is 99.96%

Sounds about right, might be a bit low. Anyone doubting this should remember that no country on erth has a proper cont of the ttal number of cases, and as above the disease will at least appear to become milder as time goes on.

The survival rate is 99.96%

Sounds about right, might be a bit high.

Even in the U.S., though the death rate is falling slowly, the disease is continuing to spread — and who knows what will happen in the fall when temperatures drop and the flu season begins again.

Better then to get it over while its still summer. It does not seem to have got through to authorities that getting through this fast is desireable. (subject to doing it as safely as possible. Complete attempts to eradicate it arent working, we have to work through it and acquire immunity).

 

[Industrialsize]

Every time someone is exposed to a little bit of covid, it enters the body and you start building immunity. You get a bit more safe for when in the future you do get a big enough dose to fall ill. You get a head start in developing that immunity, so that the disease when you do get it will be less severe. You get a vaccination, the natural way.

This is most likely one of the reason why diseases appear to get less severe as they go on, because everyone has built a bit of immunity. another reason is that the most susceptible will on.y need a lower dose to become infected, so they will tend to catch it first. So the most susceptible end up ill first, with the worst cases. And as the epdemic goes on, what with cases all round being milder, average exposure falls and fewer people get a very big dose to start off. A big initial dose means more likely to get a severe case.
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ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS IN SCIENCE^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[ConanTheBarber]

ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS IN SCIENCE^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wish you explained some of your reactions more. Not every time, but more often than you do.

 

[ConanTheBarber]

People do not get an active covid infection unless they receive more than a certain dose of virus.

I imagine you mean they get no serious infection. For the immune system to respond, does it not need some degree of infection?

We have always been told that masks are not a substitute for any other measures. It does not make you safe. What they do is give a false sense of security, and frankly where I live it is all people are observing.

Where I live, most people are wearing masks and observing pretty strict social distancing.

On the other hand, if you are distancing enough to be safe, then the mask will still reduce the dose you get.

Precisely the reason one should wear a mask.

Every time someone is exposed to a little bit of covid, it enters the body and you start building immunity. You get a bit more safe for when in the future you do get a big enough dose to fall ill. You get a head start in developing that immunity, so that the disease when you do get it will be less severe. You get a vaccination, the natural way.

Not implausible. I mean, there's a school of thought that earlier exposure to some previous coronaviruses has, in some people, given a degree of immunity that makes Covid-19 less severe.
But do you think people are developing repeated mini-infections of Covid and developing immunity that way?
I haven't heard that view before.
Perhaps I've been inattentive.

Better then to get it over while its still summer. It does not seem to have got through to authorities that getting through this fast is desirable (subject to doing it as safely as possible).

Do you not leave any space at all for huge improvements in treatment (which has caused quite a drop in the death rate of the infected) and the development, perhaps in the new year, of a vaccine?
You may say, "Ah, but the fastest vaccine was for mumps — and that took four years."
But many vaccines were on track for much quicker authorizations than that, possibly only failing to meet that timeline because the disease incidence fell below a level at which a business case for commercial production could still be made.
And nine candidate vaccines have entered Stage Three trials, with two vaccines approved for limited use (Coronavirus Vaccine Tracker).
In the circumstances, I don't think a rush to let the weak die makes much sense.
It may have a Spockish fascination, but only briefly.

Complete attempts to eradicate it aren't working, we have to work through it and acquire immunity).

You're way ahead of yourself.
I am not a Millennarian, but I think there may be more hope around the corner than you think.
Complete eradication? Perhaps not. But enough reduction of incidence to take it off our daily plate.

 

[ConanTheBarber]

But many vaccines were on track for much quicker authorizations than that, possibly only failing to meet that timeline because the disease incidence fell below a level at which a business case for commercial production could still be made.

I was unclear here. These "many vaccines" were in development for other diseases, before Covid entered the picture.
Apologies for any confusion.

 

[pahunk610]

A Qanoner!

Keep your head in the sand and die with the rest of the sheep.

 

[pahunk610]

ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS IN SCIENCE^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

EXACTLY .... you are BORN with 340,000 different viruses ... and the ONLY way a new virus can enter your body is EITHER 1) blood transfusion 2) vaccine
SO KEEP WEARING THAT MASK MORONS

 

[phonehome]

EXACTLY .... you are BORN with 340,000 different viruses ... and the ONLY way a new virus can enter your body is EITHER 1) blood transfusion 2) vaccine
SO KEEP WEARING THAT MASK MORONS

Please PROVIDE A LIST of just 1000, hell Ii will make it easy on you only 340 virus that EVERYONE is born with. ??

Was Freddie Mercury born with HIV ??

We KNOW he never got/had a blood transfusion and to this day there is no vaccine

 

[pahunk610]

Please PROVIDE A LIST of just 1000, hell Ii will make it easy on you only 340 virus that EVERYONE is born with. ??

Was Freddie Mercury born with HIV ??


We KNOW he never got/had a blood transfusion and to this day there is no vaccine

...you mean NO CURE
... there is NO CURE for any virus , that's why you get a COLD
...go do the research junior and enlighten yourself

 

[deleted15807]

EXACTLY .... you are BORN with 340,000 different viruses ... and the ONLY way a new virus can enter your body is EITHER 1) blood transfusion 2) vaccine
SO KEEP WEARING THAT MASK MORONS

You're too much junior. What grade are you in?

 

[b.c.]

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[phonehome]

...you mean NO CURE
... there is NO CURE for any virus , that's why you get a COLD
...go do the research junior and enlighten yourself

NO I said AND MEANT not vaccine

There is quite NO VACCINE for HIV

So again to your bullshit claim of being "born with viruses

Was Freddie Mercury born with HIV ??

 

[Industrialsize]

Foster Farms processing plant in California ordered to shut down over COVID-19 outbreak
by Manuela Tobias August 28, 2020
The Merced County Health Department ordered the Foster Farms Livingston Facility to shut down over the largest and most severe COVID-19 outbreak in Merced County, according to a statement released on Thursday by the health department.

The shutdown order came Wednesday.

However, late Thursday, Mike North, Merced County’s spokesperson, said county officials issued a 48-hour stay to the shutdown order to “help facilitate logistics associated with any necessary closure.” North said the enforcement stay followed a “phone call” with the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s secretary for food safety.

It wasn’t immediately clear how Foster Farms would respond to the shutdown order. A man who answered the phone at the Livingston plant on Thursday afternoon said they had no comment and hung up.

Vehicles, including trucks with Foster Farms’ logos, were seen entering and exiting the Livingston facility after 6 p.m. Thursday, and the facility’s gates were open.

In a statement Thursday, officials described the Foster Farms outbreaks as the “most severe and long lasting” in Merced County.

At least 358 employees have tested positive, and eight employees have died due to the coronavirus, according to a letter obtained from the Merced County Health Department.
Foster Farms processing plant ordered to shut down over COVID-19 outbreak | CalMatters

 

[dandelion]

I imagine you mean they get no serious infection. For the immune system to respond, does it not need some degree of infection?

Ahh... the problem of what exactly do we mean by an infection? It all gets a bit muddled if we start thinking about a few invading viruses facing a few immune cells. My interpretation is that the general immunity, or low levels of specific immunity, are capable of killing or nutralising a small number of invading viruses. But having done so, they still start the process of analysing them and developing more specific defence. If too many virues arrive then they overwhelm this initial defence and start multiplying...and then an infection proper has begun.

Where I live, most people are wearing masks and observing pretty strict social distancing.

Well here they are not. (yes wearing masks by law, but not bothering with the measurs which are actually likely to work)

Not implausible. I mean, there's a school of thought that earlier exposure to some previous coronaviruses has, in some people, given a degree of immunity that makes Covid-19 less severe.
But do you think people are developing repeated mini-infections of Covid and developing immunity that way?

See above. But the matter of pre existing immunity is a bit different. Swedes published a paper where they challenged blood from people not exposed to covid, and found it reacted against samples of covid spike or shell but not internal proteins. They inferred that this covid had features of spike and shell in common with past viruses. That makes a lot of sense, because these are the delivery mechanism which has to be able to interface with cells and inject the internal payload. You cant change the delivery mechanism much or it just doesnt work.

This strong immunity might well have been developed in the normal way by a full infection from a different corona virus and response to it.

Do you not leave any space at all for huge improvements in treatment (which has caused quite a drop in the death rate of the infected) and the development, perhaps in the new year, of a vaccine?

If we close down the economy for a year we are all dead. It has never been an option. It is theoretically possible to try to keep covid out, but it isnt working very well where it has been tried and will fail in time. They might hold out till there is a vaccine, but the economic cost depends how much they can isolate their internal economies fom the world, and how much they are suffering anyway from special measures restricting movement.

For the Uk this was never an option, as covid got here months before anyone detected it. It seems to have reached the US a bit later, and thus is still spreading across the US later than in Europe. But do you honestly think anyone got clued up in time to keep it out of the US?

Once it is in, the death toll to date in the first wave is probably the majority of what it will ever kill. Research has suggested 1/3 immune before it ever arrived. To which add however many have had it fully, plus growing background immunity of everyone else meaning future infections become steadily milder. Once its in...best to get it over not wait.

Lockdown kills people too. Closing hospitals to other illnesses because anyone going there risks geting covid just as they are sick with something else...kills people too. The faster its over the quicker you stop these collateral deaths. Poverty kills too, from the coming recession.

But many vaccines were on track for much quicker authorizations than that, possibly only failing to meet that timeline because the disease incidence fell below a level at which a business case for commercial production could still be made.

The Uk has already bought and paid for several vaccines for the entire population. Seems likely this will be over before they are ready. If we had not done this, it might well be the manufacturers would have heeded your advice.

Complete eradication? Perhaps not. But enough reduction of incidence to take it off our daily plate.

Right now in the Uk that is what we have. (though it still seems to be dominating everything despite deaths not being enough to worry about)

 

[dandelion]

In a statement Thursday, officials described the Foster Farms outbreaks as the “most severe and long lasting” in Merced County.

Yes, but how many died, how many went to hospital and how many even knew they were ill?

...you mean NO CURE
... there is NO CURE for any virus , that's why you get a COLD

Well...if there was no cure you would just die. That its only a cold is because you body killed it by using its immune system. In a few years thats exactly what covid will be if its still around, just another cold.

 

[Industrialsize]

Ahh... the problem of what exactly do we mean by an infection? It all gets a bit muddled if we start thinking about a few invading viruses facing a few immune cells. My interpretation is that the general immunity, or low levels of specific immunity, are capable of killing or nutralising a small number of invading viruses. But having done so, they still start the process of analysing them and developing more specific defence. If too many virues arrive then they overwhelm this initial defence and start multiplying...and then an infection proper has begun.

People spend entire lifetimes studying immunology, virology and infection, and yet you've mastered it all from your computer in a few short months.....