Correlation: Penis size and her Vocals

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Oh I get it now, I've played this game before..

Its called something like

"First poster makes no fucking sense and talks out of his ass, you counter it with logic, he thanks you and tries to put you in the "less educated" catagory as politely as possible"

Oh cool, I just love winning these :biggrin1:

So here's the deal right, you made an interesting though incorrect correlation between the size of penis involved, and the vocals of a woman, you now intend to belittle anyone who points this out to you, and in effect do nothing than make yourself look rather narrow minded. In order to continue playing this game though, lets get some facts involved shall we?

So.. your gender would be? and how did you gather the information used to come to this conclusion?

There's no use claiming to know these things if its based on theory alone.

I never did answer your question, so I will. I base what I think on a few factors added together:

I posted about a female neighbor that when having intercourse with her well known hung bf she would make loud ecstatic sounds. They broke up, she eventually gets a new bf, and no sounds from her when the bed is bumping. Also, some women do state they have a "deep area" that drives them nuts when it's contacted. That area would seem to be the cul de sac (Pouch of Douglas) located between the bottom vaginal wall and the anus. It is contacted when a penis is long enough to push her bottom wall into it. Also, I've been involved in penis enlargement for a few years, and even though I haven't been as consistent as I wish, I have gained over an inch in length and about 3/8" in girth. During this gaining I've only had sex with one woman and there is definitely an increased response from her. Most noticiable is in her facial expression. Her vocal has increased a bit during intercourse, though I admit it's not much of a vocal increase, then again even with the gains I'm now only very average in girth size, and while my length is on the high end of average now when bp, it's very average at nbp. Also, I believe it's very logical to think that extra girth puts more pressure on the g spot and walls, therefore increasing sensation. True, one can angle but I don't think that equals the direct constant pressure that is possible in any position with extra thick girth. Do not the vast majority of women state extra girth is desirable? It's not even a debate when it comes to girth, not if one reads what most women say about girth. Am I to think that extra girth is desirable to them, more pleasurable, but it's not going to increase their response? More pleasure doesn't correlate with more response? I think it makes sense to believe it does.

Anyway, that is mainly what I base my belief on.
 

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Well, I can add something else to the other factors I listed as to why I think women's vocals and expressions during intercourse correlate with penis size. I've watched amateur porn lately, the plain unhyped type, and the bigger penises tend to cause women to make more sounds. I'm not saying it's an absolute. I'm saying there is clearly a general correlation.

Why is it my question is treated as so illogical, even though there is indeed reason to believe there is a correlation. I present the factors as to why (see my previous post along with this one) I believe what I do, and no one comes back and says anything concerning what I presented. I think I've presented a reasonable case. The pc group, which appears to either be in the majority here, or else non pcers just don't post as often because they know the pc group (the ones who hate for value type differences between people of any kind to be brought up, and tend to not believe differences really exist) - is going to treat their posts are utterly impossible bs. So I'm told in a round about way, in this case, that to put any implication into it that bigger penises create more reaction (therefore implying bigger penises are better), is not correct (nor do you think is it proper to say so, if we want to be blunt about why you don't like it being said).
 

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Interesting hypothesis, despite its poor reception so far.

At first I thought it was a dumb post as it's almost impossible to test. After a second or two I thought of a way to test at least part of it, so maybe it's not so dumb after all.
 

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Holy gobshite! :eek:

Why hasn't anyone brought up the most obvious logical rebuttal? Those handy audio controls? Volume is on the left breast and the treble/bass tone control on the right? :biggrin1:
 

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The type of rebuttal I would like to have is to address the factors I presented that would seem to me to indicate a correlation should exist. For instance, I mentioned girth and more contact/pressure. I can think of the possible rebuttal: vaginal walls will expand just enough to fit the less girth, therefore girth isn't an issue. My comeback though would be that if that is an equaliser then why do the vast majority of women state extra girth is a bonus. I would be interested in hearing the reply to that comeback. See, I'm producing the discussion as it should be. Personal experience is a decent comeback to my opening question, but it doesn't necessaily invalidate a question. Correlations can exist in the overall that personal experiences might or might not not have picked up on. A complete objective examination of all factors and data available should be considered before a conclusion can be reached (if one can be reached). The 'it's stupid, 'how old are you', etc., type replies I received to my opening question don't carry weight. My opening question is seen as invalid, but those type replies aren't? They were just attacks on me for asking the question, and then I admit I got in a bit of a huff and posted about right brain thinkers vs left brain thinkers, but even then I was presenting an examination of the why's behind posts. I was looking at the sectors of the harddrive, so to speak, that make us think the way we do. When I presented the left vs right brain post then that wasn't well received either, for afterall I was still separating people from the whole. Instead of directly challenging what I presented in the left vs right, instead I was tongue lashed as insulting people. My intention is not to insult people, and I'm not one to enjoy doing so, though I would be less than honest to say I didn't realised it might happen, and didn't much care at the time I was posting it because was I insulted from the get go and noone cared. It was a gangbanging. The prior direct insults at me weren't addressed by moderators, but mine were.
 

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I fully realise many other factors are involved, and everything is relative to a particular woman, I'm saying penis size is also a factor to be included, and has an affect. I've got one other something to add that I don't how I could have forgotten, but I did - I've had two male swingers tell me a long while back that there is clearly a correlation. That would indicate to me, since other factors are involved, that if it is still possible to discern the affect then penis size must have a fairly strong pull on the results. That it must be higher up the ladder of influence than one might think. Yes, I recognise your post that you aren't vocal/expression affected by size, but that's an individual case that, in light of other evidence, apparently doesn't disqualfy the overall general correlation. Surely you aren't saying that just because other factors are involved one can't possibly realise affect and possibly know.
 
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Of course there's a correlation. I'm only 5 x 3.5" and my wife fucks other guys to get the satisfaction she needs. She's been with three well endowed guys over the past couple years, and trust me, the sounds she makes with them are quite different than when I'm inside her. She groans and moans with every thrust....when she's with me, she can carry on a phone conversation with another unknowing person.
 

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I somewhat agree with the OP. It's something i've very much noticed in myself. But theres just too many other factors to consider which is what makes it... kind of meaningless.

I dated a man for two years. The only "larger" man i've ever been with. And he made me scream, grunt, moan, and gasp louder than any other.

But i also have to consider i took two years training him to EXACTLY what pleased me. No one else got that sort of time or effort.

If the man takes the time to please the One woman, instead of just assuming what works on one will work on the other, Then hell get all the screams his ears can handle.
 

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I just think you assume way too much and dismiss too much. Maybe it's porn that has guys obsessed with female's histrionics during sex. Where every stroke causes a glass-shattering vocal response. Maybe it's just the male fragile ego that wants him to believe vocals always mean pleasure, and a more quiet response doesn't. It just ain't so! As much as some guys hate to think or believe it, loud moans and groans can sometimes mean the other person is faking. As relative silence can also sometimes mean very real and even intense pleasure. Not every woman is a screamer, nor do they necessarily want to be...or at least not all the time. A woman once told me this. And when it comes to female sexual response and pleasure, I'm gonna roll with the female view over the male view everytime. Just amazes me when guys always think they know more, even though they don't have the right equipment.
 

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I'm speaking in correlations, not absolutes (all or nothings). A correlation exists if the distribution percentages are altered in favor of the factor. In other words, the factor (in this case penis size) has an affect on the overall chart in an overview (not from an individual to individual view, of course. It would only do that if it was an absolute). Correlations can be weak, strong, or inbetween. I've presented the reasons I believe a correlation exists, and it wasn't just amateur porn I mentioned. A cuck and a female have meanwhile already said a correlation exists. Kotchanski can correct me if I misunderstood her, but it appears to me that even Kotchanski in her last post in this thread said I was right to a degree, but that she questions the amount of affect (correlation pull) I appear to be putting on it. One doesn't necessarily have to have the equipment. Studying the equipment through observations, and inquiries, in objective manner, is an effective way to collect and draw a conclusion from. There haven't been many women respond to this thread. The number of responses so far in this thread is hardly yet definitive of women in general. It merely shows it's not an absolute all encompassing correlation.

Edit: I want to add I strongly believe there is a correlation in an overview. However, the strength of it is unclear to me. The overview of women in general has been my focus, however, if one wants to speak about correlations on an individual level I believe the correlation can be none, weak, moderate, or strong. In other words, female A is not vocally or facially affected by penis size, but female B is to a moderate degree, while female C is to a strong degree, etc. How many fall into each category is what creates the strength of the correlation overall. I don't know the percentage of women that fall into each strength category, and as a result I don't clearly know the overall strength.
 

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well yes large penis are great they hurt but oh, so good i think about and i'm getting hot
 

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Oh and there was me thinking it was all to do with how good the guy was

Learn something new every day I guess :rolleyes:

Actually it is how good both of them are. Yes he has to be good at making love, and a bigger cock is a plus, but a woman who is in touch with her own sexuality and knows her own body very well make much better screamers and moaners.
 

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The number of responses so far in this thread is hardly yet definitive of women in general. It merely shows it's not an absolute all encompassing correlation.

Even that seems a "reach" to me. Thing about statistics, is that one can pretty much shape them to correlate whatever they chose. Ask what you want, dismiss whatever else gets in the way, and you'll get the results you'll truly want.
 

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It shows that you have an interesting imagination and a desire to establish patterns where none exist.

It also shows you have the potential for analytical skills, but you need to be able to distinguish reality from garbage/noise. Fantasy is a fun place to visit, just don't actually live there.
 

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Sorry but I have to use the "C" word. Scientifically, correlation is not causation. Frankly, the statements of the original poster are not even correlation. That would suggest he did some research and plotted some points and noticed a relationship between size and grunting/moaning or whathaveyou. The original poster made a hypothesis based on his obviously, limited experience. He then gets upset when people provide him evidence from their own personal experience to the contrary. Albeit the evidence is anecdotal but no worse than his original guess. I have to say...he makes a poor scientist. And that, class, is how junk science works. Class dismissed. Everyone go home and do some grunting!
 

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This is a silly topic. Truly large cocked dudes don't care or listen. Concentration is singularly focused on what's between MY legs and nothing, I mean NOTHING else. Miss Vagina/ Mr Orifice could be juggling fruit, singing opera or in resultant pain and I would not notice.

Sorry if that's not caring, empathetic or socially acceptable but the truth is not always pretty. When it comes to insertion, it's all about me!
 

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Sorry but I have to use the "C" word. Scientifically, correlation is not causation. Frankly, the statements of the original poster are not even correlation. That would suggest he did some research and plotted some points and noticed a relationship between size and grunting/moaning or whathaveyou. The original poster made a hypothesis based on his obviously, limited experience. He then gets upset when people provide him evidence from their own personal experience to the contrary. Albeit the evidence is anecdotal but no worse than his original guess. I have to say...he makes a poor scientist. And that, class, is how junk science works. Class dismissed. Everyone go home and do some grunting!

That was an obviously biased review. I've done somewhat more than guess. Objectively re-read my posts. You dismiss the plotted points without science of your own, by only mentioning the ones that side with your belief, without even giving others that didn't totally take your side any acknowledgement. Also, I did not get upset because of others posting contrary to my opening post. I've already explained that. You are only reading into me what your bias toward my thread has caused (cause and effect, lol).

If enough women respond (it's not looking like that is going to occur here though) then my plotted points could be checked out. I don't believe the correlation is absolute, I've already stated that. I'm perfectly willing to treat this thread as a poll, but there are not going to be enough women responding.

I don't see science in your post. A few women doesn't make it science.

Are you saying that a correlation from penis size can't mean the penis size caused it. Sounds like you are merely going back to what Kochanski had said. Unless I misunderstood her, she was saying that too many factors are involved and therefore one cannot determine cause and effect from penis size. That is not the case. One could say that about any factor and charts could never be created. Sure, one must be careful that it's an authentic correlation.

Does this mean you believe a 5 L x 4.5 G will have the same cause and effect result as a 8 L x 6 G. In other words, just as many women enjoy the smaller and to the same degree. I think not. There have been very few women respond into this thread, and therefore one cannot make an all emcompassing determination from it. I've asked for more female replies, and it's only because many more responses are needed. I would have been asking for more responses even if they had all said they had much stronger vocals when bigger penises were involved. That's the objective thing to do.

If pleasure is increased, then response should be increased, at least in some cases, if not many (and I'm not even bringing up the psychological response to big dicks factor, which is fairly well understood to exist, is it not). I'm not discarding other factors, far from it. Yet penis size appears to be getting completely and absolutely discarded for some reason.
 

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I've never had the opportunity to screw the same woman with different sized penises, so I have no basis for comparison.