Crisis in egypt tells us its time to cut mubarak loose.....

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then what happened? where did all this brilliance and creative thinking go?

so, Muslim universities are among the world's best? the Muslim nations are among the most scientifically, artistically, and medically advanced?

consider these discussions:

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Obviously you are unaware that the Inquisition, an imposition of all things christian, was the fundamental reason Islam was wiped from the Iberian Peninsula. Yeah, those were the days. Pledge your life to a christian god and be free to be a second-class citizen, or not and die? Nick of the Sixes, it's not for nothing you are so reviled by many LPSG-ers.

Next time why don't you just cut and paste silliness from The Watch Tower? It's more on your level of understanding.

And your claim that christianism leads automatically to democratic thinking? Y'all be sure to tell that to them folks as Westboro Baptist Church next time you worship there. Heah?:biggrin1:
 
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Just think of the overwhelming number of factors that are working to keep the Egyptians oppressed, and it becomes clear that Mubarak is just a result, not a cause.

Most of these factors that kept us oppressed are being removed one after another..
 

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Obviously you are unaware that the Inquisition, an imposition of all things christian, was the fundamental reason Islam was wiped from the Iberian Peninsula.

and this has WHAT to do with the price of chiliquiles in Amsterdam?
so muslim creativity can only exist in Spain?!?!


Yeah, those were the days. Pledge your life to a christian god and be free to be a second-class citizen, or not and die? Nick of the Sixes, it's not for nothing you are so reviled by many LPSG-ers.

Next time why don't you just cut and paste silliness from The Watch Tower? It's more on your level of understanding.

And your claim that christianism leads automatically to democratic thinking? Y'all be sure to tell that to them folks as Westboro Baptist Church next time you worship there. Heah?:biggrin1:

oh, dear! what to do with these make-believe and "let's pretend" constructions of that autistic lib world of yours?

There is no "Christianism" just as there is no "Islamist movements". There are those who are true to Christianity, and there are those who are not -- there simply are no "Christianist" movements.

One speculates that are you here trying to invoke a similarity between the muslim terrorists and Westboro, employing the lib construct that there are "moderate" muslims to be distinguished from the terrorists.

But no, dear fellow, such distinctions do not correspond to the real world.

No, dear fellow, I reference the reflective attitude and individual responsibility that Christianity creates and invokes, and that is the requisite for democracy to exist. This is in contra-distinction to lib doctrinaire thinking that everyone has to adhere (unthinkingly) to, and which is detrimental to democracy, and the democratic impulse.
 

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oh, dear! what to do with these make-believe and "let's pretend" constructions of that autistic lib world of yours?

There is no "Christianism" just as there is no "Islamist movements". There are those who are true to Christianity, and there are those who are not -- there simply are no "Christianist" movements.
I'm sure you can define for everyone what a "true" Christian is. No doubt you perfectly embody one. :rolleyes:

You're parsing words and playing semantic games here. Call it what you will, there most certainly are Evangelical movements aplenty, intent on nothing less than converting the entire world to their particular fundamentalist version of Christianity by any means necessary, some of them hell bent on bringing on the Apocalypse and global war in order to do so. (In case you didn't know, your previous president and his advisor/puppetmaster Rove, among others in that administration and certain architects of the Iraqui invasion, subscribe to and are motivated by a brand of religious doomsday philosophy.)

One speculates that are you here trying to invoke a similarity between the muslim terrorists and Westboro, employing the lib construct that there are "moderate" muslims to be distinguished from the terrorists.
So
in your 'enlightened' view there are no "moderate" Muslims in the world, only 1.25 to 1.6 billion "terrorists"?

However will we survive their global jihad? How have we survived this long? :rolleyes:

But no, dear fellow, such distinctions do not correspond to the real world.
Perhaps not the real world as you see it - from a dogmatic bigoted rightwing "Christianist" perspective viewed through the lens of an empty gin bottle.

No, dear fellow, I reference the reflective attitude and individual responsibility that Christianity creates and invokes, and that is the requisite for democracy to exist. This is in contra-distinction to lib doctrinaire thinking that everyone has to adhere (unthinkingly) to, and which is detrimental to democracy, and the democratic impulse.
Among the religious and non religious of the world, Christians hardly invented or have a monopoly on "reflective attitudes" or "individual responsibility". Moreover, I guess your superior parochial education failed to instill in you the knowledge that democracy predates Christianity by at least six centuries. You also failed to learn that the principles of modern democracy upon which this nation was constructed were inspired not by Judeo-Christian tradition, but by the great secular humanist thinkers of the Enlightenment, reached back to the Athenians, and were informed by the democratic practices of the native Iroquois among other influences. You're not entirely to blame for your intellectual shortcomings though; I blame the indoctrination you received in your private religious education, inadequate as it was. The question is why you still "adhere (unthinkingly)" to such unadulterated bullshit. It's ironic that you, blinded as you are by rightwing propaganda and religious dogma, would project that "unthinking" label onto actual freethinkers, ain't it?

BTW, how do you feel about Catholic papal infallability? Now there's a democratic Christian concept for you. :rolleyes:

Another question, regarding your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, whose core message preached understanding and tolerance, showing your highest devotion to God through unselfish service to your fellow man, giving your material riches away, feeding clothing and housing the poor, caring for the sick, taking care of the most vulnerable in society, etc., . . . Do you think it would it be insulting and unfair to characterize him as a "lib"?

One final question, where do you think we could look to find contemporary examples of Phillistines in modern society, those who selfishly lined their pockets with gold and loudly proclaimed their piety and devotion to God while hypocritically judging others and doing nothing to improve their lot? Those whom your Lord condemned most harshly of all? Those who are destined on Judgement Day to head straight to Hell?

As you are the epitome of a "true Christian", I expect we'll all be most enlightened reading your answers. :wink:

Oh, and as a bonus, why don't you tell us all about your "reflective attitude", my "dear fellow". LOLOLOL!
 
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Nick4444 said:
I reference the reflective attitude and individual responsibility that Christianity creates and invokes,

If you want to play the game of distortions, do keep in mind that Christianity also created and invoked Scott Roeder. Yet even after he walked into a church and assassinated someone in cold blood over the issue of abortion, nobody tried to propose legislation to investigate or keep all Christians under perpetual suspect.

Blatant religious bigotry under the guise of a falsified, political crisis. It's things like this that make me question why I ever bothered to be baptized.