Crossing the line from Fetish to Disturbed

Discussion in 'Women's Issues' started by Eva, Sep 25, 2007.

  1. Eva

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    I don't know how many of you out there have Flickr accounts but I came across something while going through some of the discussions on a Female Artists' group I belong to on the site.

    The topic was this group: Female Hanging: Fetish Hanging and Execution of Women and Girls! Very obviously, the link is not safe for work. A member of the group sent a message to one of the female artists stating that he'd like to strangle her while fucking her and then when he was finished, he'd snap her neck. Only his rendition was far more graphic. Very obviously, the message was out of line and he's been reported.

    My question is this: Is this really a fetish or is this something that's just crossed the line?

    I understand that there are people out there who might find this to be a fetish, but at what point do you draw the boundary? This group on Flickr is public, so any 13 year old can find it with a simple search. The photos are visible to non-group members so the 13 year old who found the group could easily see those photos of women hanging, laying in pools of blood, etc. They can also join the group with one click of the mouse.

    Flickr is pretty weird about their filtering. Friends of mine are marked as "Adult Oriented" because they have occasional artistic nudes. They filter those for friends/family only so those photos don't show up in searches. However, the photos of everyday stuff, like a cat with a cheeseburger, also get filtered so they appear as a snowy-whitenoise-box until I click the link indicating that yes, I am sure I want to view this photo of the cat and the cheeseburger. NONE of those hanging photos are snowed. Many aren't filtered for friends/family. (Group-added photos will always show up in the group pool, regardless of filter.)

    Am I being overly puritanical here? I'm disturbed by this group. I'm disturbed at the blatant misogyny. I'm disturbed at the ease of finding the images. I'm disturbed that there are so many members in this group. It makes me feel.... I don't know, less safe or something. (It sounds odd, even to me. But that's the best way I can think of to put it.)

    Thoughts? Comments?
     
  2. IntoxicatingToxin

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    It completely crosses the line, in my opinion.
     
  3. 9inchcanadian

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    Yep so far past the line, the line is a dot.
     
  4. Eva

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    I've written to Flickr about it. I'm kinda hoping I can get a rather large group of the FemArtists group members to join up and see what we can do about this stuff.

    Yuck.
     
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    Welcome to the US of A, where any depictions of the skin in which you were born are verboten, but images showing the violent destruction of same are glorified and exalted. Enjoy your stay.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    About a week ago on here there was a post linked to a vid of some of the most disturbing acts of sexual gratification i have ever witnessed, from masturbating while your cock is on fire to self amptation and forcing spikes through the urethra, Thankfully just 3 minutes after i reported it, it was removed, i hope the mods at your other forum are as diligent as the ones here.
     
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    It makes me feel so sick when I just read about guys mistreating their cocks...I dunno how anyone could do that.

    As for this 'fetish' - what does it stem from? Hatred of women?

    There's a fetish some people have for amputees...lots of crazy shit. But this hanging one and that guys comment is the most disturbing.
     
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    It's so far beyond the line that it's turned the earth and crossed the line again a milion times
     
  9. Ethyl

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    Oh goody. More material for the serial killers to wank off to. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Wrey

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    Yeah, that comment is fucked up and lightyears beyond the pale. Nevermind reporting, I think that comment counts as illegal in most states.
     
  11. vinny_spiruccino

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    Yeah, that's fucked up... Porn sometimes seems somewhat degrading to women to begin with - this takes it to a whole new level.
     
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    It's stuff like that that makes me realise just how boringly normal I am (thankfully).
    WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. yngjock20

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    Sometimes, it's scary to think that with everyone having access to free outlets such as the internet, it's allowing people with sick mentalities to express themselves to a wider audience. Anything that harms your body in an extreme manner or is completely degrading and insulting to a majority of people shouldn't even be allowed to be viewed by anyone.

    That was definitely crossing the line.

    I remember when I was in High School, I used to read Bizarre magazine; thinking it was cool to see images of people who had been hit by diesel trucks or suicide bombers...but one day, it literally hit me while I was in a bookstore that what I was looking at was real and not just a CGI horror rendering (I knew they were real pictures, but sometimes it actually takes your brain some time to digest what images you're seeing). I threw the magazine down and ran out of the store before vomiting behind the building.
     
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    They left the line miles back in the dust. I have never understood nor do I want to understand the types that make snuff videos.
     
  15. frizzle

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    Whatever floats your boat. If the women in these pictures agree to it, I don't see a problem.

    Yeah it's sick and glorifies killing women, same could be said about gory films encourage violence. Although if I had my way, I'd have none of this shit around.
     
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    Ok this is the second inflammatory post I've read for you in like 10 minutes. What is your deal?
    Um.. there is no such thing as consensual homicide man. You think people agree to be killed for fetish play? You are d-e-l-u-s-i-o-n-a-l man.
     
  17. lafever

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    Eva,

    Don`t worry too much about that site, you`ve reported it and continue to do so when you come across such a site in question, this will make you a valuable tool. Don`t think for one minute that it goes unnoticed, the important thing is that you keep your side of the street is clean.
    There are more than just mods monitoring this site and those in question, believe it or not there are alot of law enforcement agencies involved in the internet now and they have had great success in catching those who would other wise slip through the system.
    The internet has caught more predaters and habitual offenders than ever before in u.s. history.
    You`ve done your good deed to report said site, now let those in question hang themselves, unfortunatley sometimes you must give them a little rope, eventually those type of people can`t resist their own temptations and take the bait. Sleep well knowing you`ve done your part. And let law officials do the rest.


    lafever
     
  18. Karena Morgan

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    Nah, too much fuss I think, mostly this stuff is just a faked up form of art, up to u if u like it or not, just like the mock art and cartoons of Dolcett,

    ' a cartoonist specializing in the graphic depiction of the hanging, decapitation, butchering, live skewing, roasting, and eating of women'

    (google it) which a lot of people now think is classic fetish stuff and has a lot of fetish following in mock play and erotic literature and is imitated rotten in art underground magazines and stuff. Go look at vampire sites, BDSM clubs etc this is just not even that well done, some posing that's all.

    Obviously no1 was hurt in these fake death pics they are just 'art' some will like some will not, just like bondage and bukkake, and if ur making a fuss merely cos people under 18 could see it well thats true of almost anyting on the net, i mean who ever belives that every1 who hits that ' R U 18' button is really 18? duh! not many.

    Its like bad tv, porn books, wotever, don;t like it dont read it, only a few will and this is nothing to stuff out there on the net and by BDSM standards this is granny fare, so if this worries you, better lock up ur pc. the nasty stuff is what real people do to others in wars and all over the world for money power land revenge religions and greed and mindless sh*t like that. censoring the net is a bad move cos we already got way too many rules about sex and where will it all stop.

    meh, I'll tell you what IS offensive, discrimination, thats what, in england i can't even take my shirt off on a hot day like a guy can cos people think breasts are 'disgusting and offensive' and I can be arrested and called a criminal for showing my tits in a park - yet I could go get on Page 3 of a national newspaper any day of the week topless and nude that every kid in the land can read in Smiths or in a cafe or at home in millions of houses, and get praise, fame, cash and be the envy of many younger wannabe girls so how scrwed up is all that eh?

    The real danger of 'report' culture and the idea you can make up ur mind which sexual kinks are ok and which are not and persecute any1 who is not leads to the day where we all wake up and realise 'ur next' whatever ur are into. Times change, morals change tolerances change, how would we all like to go back to victorian 'values' now cos some bunch of old farts make up their minds thats what we all need. well risky if u ask me. I think people need 2 think for themselves. I really dont see this site shown here causing world panic or the decay of modern society, dunno about u, but england is already pretty sh*t and greedy and shallow anyway so some sexual freedom might liven it up a bit.

    same with anything u dont like theres always the choice not to see it.. dont go there. Not worth getting so prang!
     
  19. SpoiledPrincess

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    I'm torn between defending people's right to express their sexuality in whatever way they want, and my gut feeling that anyone who wants to express it by mutilation/death role play has to be disturbed in some way and should be protected from themselves.
     
  20. frizzle

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    If you want to believe these are real, so bet it, I don't. I think it's just made up like those rape sites you get or when a man has sex with a women whens she's sleeping.
     
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