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I'm feeling emotionally mixed up, I wanted to ask for an advice here, but now I see GaBulldog's thread, and it seems like a good idea to vent it out... Or at least to write something down, maybe it can help me reflect on things.

I'm in the middle of what seems unhappy relationship, but neither of us is trying to put it to an end. I'm not exactly certain why, maybe hope, maybe pity, or just plain procrastination. But this is not what I wanted to write about at this moment.

Anyway, I got a crush at another girl.
I was attending language class. From the first moment, that girl struck me as beautiful, smart, with attitude, and a little bit mysterious, I don't know it is sadness or reservation or even little fear that shows on her face...
One day, we were writing exam. She was among people who finished early, but then there was a rainstorm. I went out of the building, and she accepted an offer for a ride and squeezed under my umbrella.

For some five or ten minutes we were talking about some general stuff, then I dropped her off and left.
The conversation seemed very fluent and natural for us, and I'm not very good conversationalist, and it is usually difficult for me to open up.

She has a boyfriend, who is living abroad and this is why she is trying to learn the language fast. She wants to join him, or he wants her to move in with him apparently, so it seems like a serious relationship.
She is good 12 years younger than me, and on final year of college. She mentioned her boyfriend before, and seemed kind of proud of having a boyfriend. Perhaps he is her first.

The next day I was little bit early for oral exam. When she came, she immediately started conversation, standing next to me.
Then she moved on my side, coming close to me physically and in one moment touched the side of my body with hers. I think there was a little pause then, she moved on the other side, and immediately coming back next to me, but touching again.
She mentioned she was in a hurry.

The exam was for two people at a time.
She entered, and other people urged me to go with her (Did they recognize something happening???).
She was finished first, then kind of shamelessly asked her in front of commission if she wants to wait for me to take her home. She said OK, but later said she felt embarrassed.
I drove her to the train station, chit chatting about I don't remember what on the way.
She said see you in autumn and went off.

I don't know it crush or I am falling in love, I don't know the difference any more.
At first I was somehow happy I won't see her for three months, if she decides to come back at all, and things will calm down.
But now, some ten days later, I feel crazy and happy and sad and obsessed with her, mining the web about her and I feel like stalker.

Does somebody think she was giving me signals, or it was just my wishful thinking and misinterpretation?
 

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Shit, now I see I wrote a shitload of text that nobody will bother to read ;)

I also see my porny tumblrs in the sig, created partly because my girl and I don't have sex, can not communicate on sexual level and consequently on any other... I really shout start a vent about my relationship to help myself crystallize some thoughts about it.
 
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Shit, now I see I wrote a shitload of text that nobody will bother to read ;)

Hey man. I saw the thread title and clicked on it so I did read your posts. I'm sorry you and your girl are not happy together. It sounds like you and this girl have chemistry, but the youth thing is what makes me hesitant. Younger ladies who are very sweet can be very flirty with everyone depending on the situation. She does have a boyfriend and is just about to be with him for am extended period. It's probably best to try and forget about her for a bit, focus on how to gracefully end your current relationship that's dragging you down, and see what happens. Yes, I know all of those things are easy to do (sarcasm).

Seriously man it's a tough spot to be in. I'm sorry for your pain.
 

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If you are in a relationship, you may wish to reconcile that first.... then in the fall if girl of your dreams comes back..see how he reacts towards you. . Honestly, what else can you do if she is a broad....no pun intended. From the loo I s of your pictures, you have much to offer.....
 

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It's not that she is proud of having a boyfriend, I think. More likely, when dealing with men, she likes to assert early and often that she is unavailable. You didnt listen. I do this a lot. All the women I know do this a lot. I'm surprised you have not encountered it before.
 

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Shit, now I see I wrote a shitload of text that nobody will bother to read ;)

Hey man. I saw the thread title and clicked on it so I did read your posts. I'm sorry you and your girl are not happy together. It sounds like you and this girl have chemistry, but the youth thing is what makes me hesitant. Younger ladies who are very sweet can be very flirty with everyone depending on the situation. She does have a boyfriend and is just about to be with him for am extended period. It's probably best to try and forget about her for a bit, focus on how to gracefully end your current relationship that's dragging you down, and see what happens. Yes, I know all of those things are easy to do (sarcasm).

Seriously man it's a tough spot to be in. I'm sorry for your pain.

Thanks for reading ;) It's your post that gave me the idea to vent about it, and it feels good.

Like I said, I feel lucky this thing happened at the last day and I now I have cool off period of three months to think things over and... vent.

She didn't seem very flirty, more confused and little bit scared, thus vulnerable.

Funny thing is that pain really makes me feel alive, as some say.
 

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It's not that she is proud of having a boyfriend, I think. More likely, when dealing with men, she likes to assert early and often that she is unavailable. You didnt listen. I do this a lot. All the women I know do this a lot. I'm surprised you have not encountered it before.

We were asked to introduce ourselves and say all kind of details about our lives as a part of beginners level language course. And then repeat it for weeks for practice. One of these things is relationship status. Therefore, she was actually asked this.

Another things we were asked is describe one family member with limited terms we learned.
She was talking about her sister and said she was available, and joked she was "advertising" her. This is what made me think she is proud of having a bf.

I don't think anybody tried to assert anything with preconception, it was more of a situation thing?
 

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If you are in a relationship, you may wish to reconcile that first.... then in the fall if girl of your dreams comes back..see how he reacts towards you. . Honestly, what else can you do if she is a broad....no pun intended. From the loo I s of your pictures, you have much to offer.....

Thanks about pix comment, how weirdly embarrassing haha :)

I didn't mean to do anything before fall, I controlled myself not to use the heat of the moment, I think now is not the good moment, even if I wanted to.

Working out my relationship is opening a can of worms... And you are right, it must be done asap.
 

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We were asked to introduce ourselves and say all kind of details about our lives as a part of beginners level language course. And then repeat it for weeks for practice. One of these things is relationship status. Therefore, she was actually asked this.

Another things we were asked is describe one family member with limited terms we learned.
She was talking about her sister and said she was available, and joked she was "advertising" her. This is what made me think she is proud of having a bf.

I don't think anybody tried to assert anything with preconception, it was more of a situation thing?

Your clarifications do not change my opinion. Assert early and often. Deflect by offering someone else. Lol

It is wishful thinking, Bro. Move on.
 

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Well your own relationship aside:

She has a bf whom she seems happy with

U guys may have connected and it may be true that she's attracted to you, but my first point probably ends any possibility of her wanting to do anything with you.

Advice: break up with your gf and start looking for someone else. Move on from this new girl (but if I were you I would stay in occasional touch... A breakup is always possible and you can be there for her if that happens ;)... Just be careful not to friendzone yourself =P
 

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Well your own relationship aside:

She has a bf whom she seems happy with

U guys may have connected and it may be true that she's attracted to you, but my first point probably ends any possibility of her wanting to do anything with you.

Advice: break up with your gf and start looking for someone else. Move on from this new girl (but if I were you I would stay in occasional touch... A breakup is always possible and you can be there for her if that happens ;)... Just be careful not to friendzone yourself =P

Beautifully said, that makes me feel a little better somehow.
And thanks for the friendzone warning, good point ;)
 

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Alteredego no offence, but I have disagreed with every single thing you have said on this thread.

Well, maybe I agree with the part where you said she mentioned the bf to assert that she's unavailable, but unavailable and unattracted are two different things. Had that whole senario replayed and she never mentioned a bf, I would have been convinced she was interested in him.

What I'm saying is that (from the little information that we have) I'm gathering that she is a nice girl with no intention of cheating on her bf. that said, just because you are in a relationship, doesn't mean you don't get attracted to other people, it's part of being human and those that have been in a long-term relationship and claim to not even look at other people are lying to themselves.

I don't have any reason to believe that he has already been friendzoned but if he continues to get much closer with her while she has a bf that that inevitably will happen (well, alternatively cheating could happen, but that is neither likely nor a good idea)
 

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What do you call to when a woman likes that you are attracted to her even though she is unavailable to you, and keeps you at arms length?

Scenario two: post break-up. The re-bound guy so often gets the "let's go back to being friends" speech right as his feelings are beginning to intensify. Nobody wants to be that guy.
 
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i would just call her a bitch lol, but thats neither what i would call a friendzone nor what i think is happening here.

you do have a point though with the "rebound" senario though. In the end, we both agree that he should move on, and thats what i said in my first post, i just threw in the bit of staying in touch with her because you never know what can happen in the future. level of likelihood and success rate is clearly up for debate
 

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I did let her go, I intended this this as a post letting go/rejection vent/rant, but I'm pleasantly surprised that little by little, post by post, there is more substance to it than I expected.

</rant&rave continue>
I'm confident that I could have started something if I used that moment or in that few days.
I could see from reactions of her friend that she either recognized the connection or even two of them worded something about it previously.
Additionally, she seemed a bit reserved, or at least was not full of sheer and utter joy and happiness about sudden change that her half-year relationship is bringing to her life.
In the end, I could have just flicked on the good ol' reality warp field.
But I reasoned I never cheated on any girl and would have feeled like crap if I sabotaged her future.
Looking back, that would be much more hurtful situation to me than it is now.
Actually, maybe the best scenario would have been if I approached her and she told me to fuck the hell off.