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It's about 99.99% certain that it probably wasn't serious but Andy chose to treat it as serious and rant accordingly.


I don't know whether it was serious or not. I was accused of judging and not being open minded and all kinds of things, yet nobody thought freezing cum was weird. It could be true. Weird things happen.
 

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It's funny when someone is straight and not pc, they are accused of being a fag and homophobic. :rolleyes:

It's funny how when someone who is repressed and thinks he is straight and not PC but he is, in fact, being homophobic and self-loathing, how he will defend his ignorant views.

Not being PC has nothing to do with presenting as a close-minded homophobe.

Spewing your ignorant and uninformed thoughts is no more Anti-PC than not spewing them and thinking them IS PC.
 

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So Andy - what do you consider normal gay behaviour?


I really don't know any more, to be honest. I would say that NAMBLA members are abnormal gay men. I would say that cum worship and anal sex is abnormal, and I base that on what happened to the gay community starting in 1981. If a man were meant to be penetrated between the legs, he would have been born a woman with a vagina. The anus is not a pretend vagina. It has no lubrication and is designed to pass a bowel movement. That's it! The belief had always been that receptive anal intercourse by men was considered feminine, but now pressure from the gay community is trying to say that a receptor is not submissive nor feminine. And gay porn has advocated this also. It's ridiculous. Men need to be men, gay or straight. There's a frot website that addresses this issue, and it's quite interesting.
 

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I really don't know any more, to be honest. I would say that NAMBLA members are abnormal gay men. I would say that cum worship and anal sex is abnormal, and I base that on what happened to the gay community starting in 1981. If a man were meant to be penetrated between the legs, he would have been born a woman with a vagina. The anus is not a pretend vagina. It has no lubrication and is designed to pass a bowel movement. That's it! The belief had always been that receptive anal intercourse by men was considered feminine, but now pressure from the gay community is trying to say that a receptor is not submissive nor feminine. And gay porn has advocated this also. It's ridiculous. Men need to be men, gay or straight. There's a frot website that addresses this issue, and it's quite interesting.


This is not meant as a put-down, Andy: Considering the large number of gay men who post here, what are you looking for at this site? Are you deliberately trying to antagonize gay members for your amusement?
 

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It's funny how when someone who is repressed and thinks he is straight and not PC but he is, in fact, being homophobic and self-loathing, how he will defend his ignorant views.

Not being PC has nothing to do with presenting as a close-minded homophobe.

Spewing your ignorant and uninformed thoughts is no more Anti-PC than not spewing them and thinking them IS PC.

It has a lot to do with not being pc. This will be the last time I will say that I am not repressed, homophobic, close minded, or self loathing. My opinions are no more ignorant than yours, if that how you choose to define it. I'm entitled to my opinions. And if you people believe it's okay for someone to ejaculate in an 8 year old's mouth, then you should all join the sickos at NAMBLA. There should be outrage over that post, but there was mostly silence. It's really sad how complacent some have become.
 

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It has a lot to do with not being pc. ....

Saying igorant things aloud is not Anti-PC; it's ignorant. Thinking ignorant things and not saying them is NOT PC; it's equally ignorant (just silent).

Yes, let us be clear--you are entitled to your opinion. At the same time, I am entitled to my opinion--which happens to be that most of your opinions are ignorant.

I hope we can now move forward with a complete understanding.
 

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I really don't know any more, to be honest. I would say that NAMBLA members are abnormal gay men. I would say that cum worship and anal sex is abnormal, and I base that on what happened to the gay community starting in 1981. If a man were meant to be penetrated between the legs, he would have been born a woman with a vagina. The anus is not a pretend vagina. It has no lubrication and is designed to pass a bowel movement. That's it! The belief had always been that receptive anal intercourse by men was considered feminine, but now pressure from the gay community is trying to say that a receptor is not submissive nor feminine. And gay porn has advocated this also. It's ridiculous. Men need to be men, gay or straight. There's a frot website that addresses this issue, and it's quite interesting.

OK, Lemme get this "straight." You're NOT homophobic, but you think anal sex is abnormal gay behaviour. Furthermore, you think that a man who takes it up the ass is feminine, or should be feminine, because it fits your narrow views. I really love how you define masculinity in an unbiased way also.

Buddy, you spend way too much time watching gay porn, to be 100% straight. (Oh, that statement i just made, is not PC, at all. If you knew the real meaning of PC you would understand why it isn't)
 

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OK, Lemme get this "straight." You're NOT homophobic, but you think anal sex is abnormal gay behaviour. Furthermore, you think that a man who takes it up the ass is feminine, or should be feminine, because it fits your narrow views. I really love how you define masculinity in an unbiased way also.

Buddy, you spend way too much time watching gay porn, to be 100% straight. (Oh, that statement i just made, is not PC, at all. If you knew the real meaning of PC you would understand why it isn't)

I've never seen gay porn, but I have read about it, and how the plots like to have a so-called "straight" guy who suddenly becomes gay. It's the whole gay fantasy thing, that all straight men are just dying to have gay sex. Many of you probably have had oral with a straight guy, and you wear it like a badge of honor. So be it if that's what gets you off.
It was always considered fem for a man to take it up the butt, but the gay community has tried to normalize this and say that it's still masculine. It's not. It's submissive and feminine. And maybe you weren't around in 1981 when AIDS ripped through the gay community. Most of it was blamed on anal, and anal was shunned for quite some time until AIDS medications came around.
 

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Wow Andy, it takes talent to piss people off in more than two simultaneous threads! Are you going for the high score?

There is naturally a connotation for tops (dominants in anal sex) to be masculine, and for bottoms (submissives in anal sex) to be feminine. Afterall, the penetrator is widely purported to be the "man" and the penetratee the "woman". It makes sense why people would believe that, and I don't blame you for feeling that way. But while some have the top-bottom status, others switch and recipocrate the favor, so the classifications become naturally complex in those situations.

You can bash anal too, as it's not necessarily homophobic (though I say "Don't dog it 'till you try it."). After all, plenty of men enjoy anal with women and plenty of women enjoy recieving it. If done responsibly, no disease or damage occurs.

It's not as though AIDS suddenly materializes if a penis enters an anus. It's a contagion, and like most diseases is spread from people carrying the virus or bacterium that causes it. If you want anal without AIDS, use a rubber and choose partners wisely -- simple. FYI, you can also get AIDS from vaginal intercourse with an infected person just as well.

My point being, your views aren't completely justified without experience or factual information to recount from. Also, I'm curious as to where and why you read about the plots of gay porn flims...:biggrin1:.
 

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I really don't know any more, to be honest. I would say that NAMBLA members are abnormal gay men. I would say that cum worship and anal sex is abnormal, and I base that on what happened to the gay community starting in 1981. If a man were meant to be penetrated between the legs, he would have been born a woman with a vagina. The anus is not a pretend vagina. It has no lubrication and is designed to pass a bowel movement. That's it! The belief had always been that receptive anal intercourse by men was considered feminine, but now pressure from the gay community is trying to say that a receptor is not submissive nor feminine. And gay porn has advocated this also. It's ridiculous. Men need to be men, gay or straight. There's a frot website that addresses this issue, and it's quite interesting.


Thanks for that most informative post. Glad to be able to converse with someone so enlightened as you so obviously are.
 

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I've never seen gay porn, but I have read about it, and how the plots like to have a so-called "straight" guy who suddenly becomes gay. It's the whole gay fantasy thing, that all straight men are just dying to have gay sex. Many of you probably have had oral with a straight guy, and you wear it like a badge of honor. So be it if that's what gets you off.
It was always considered fem for a man to take it up the butt, but the gay community has tried to normalize this and say that it's still masculine. It's not. It's submissive and feminine. And maybe you weren't around in 1981 when AIDS ripped through the gay community. Most of it was blamed on anal, and anal was shunned for quite some time until AIDS medications came around.


I've watched a LOT of gay porn. The only gay porn i can readily think of where "straight" men are converted is ameteur crap on the web on sites like "hisfirstgaysex.com." I, personally, like my porn to be all gay actors, but there is no accounting for taste. Point being, you are making another broad, sweeping generalization based on second-hand material. Meanwhile, you are ignoring the experiences of those of us who actually LIVE this stuff. Why are you so ready to accept material you read when it agrees with your point of view, and so ready to dismiss it when it comes directly from the source? I'll tell you why, and i'll spell it out for you: P-R-E-J-U-D-I-C-E.

Need the definition, just so you don't misunderstand? Good. This comes from the oxford english dictionary:

prejudice |ˈprejədəs| noun 1 preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience : English prejudice against foreigners | anti-Jewish prejudices. See note at bias . • dislike, hostility, or unjust behavior formed on such a basis : accusations of racial prejudice.
 

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I think the Forbes website says it best in a recent Sex article...

- Better teeth: Seminal plasma contains zinc, calcium and other minerals shown to retard tooth decay. Since this is a family Web site, we will omit discussion of the mineral delivery system. Suffice it to say that it could be a far richer, more complex and more satisfying experience than squeezing a tube of Crest--even Tartar Control Crest. Researchers have noted, parenthetically, that sexual etiquette usually demands the brushing of one's teeth before and/or after intimacy, which, by itself, would help promote better oral hygiene.


So there you have it... Do it for your teeth! :biggrin1: