Cybersex is Cheating

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If there's interaction of course it's cheating, I thought that was obvious or do the cheaters want to get out on some kind of loophole?
Yes, the cheaters i.e. Drifterwood :wink: wish to get off on a loophole.


:aargh4: OMFG! :eek: I just agreed with Frizzle! :34:

Frizzle - what is the difference between you jacking off on cam with someone and your GF humping her dildos and vibrators whilst fantasising that it was Leonardo Di Caprio?
Don't be a dumbass Drifterwood!! :aargh4: The difference is a fantasy, is just that; and a dildo is a lame substitute for a man. :tongue: She knows she will never have sex with Leonardo DiCaprio as do you.:mad::rolleyes: You jacking off on cam is different; because there is a real person on the other side who is genuinely interested and turned on by you. Even if they live 3,000 miles away, the potential for a relationship is always there hence the cheating issue.
 

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She's been writing for 25 years? She probably didn't start as a child or even a teen... so she's probably at least...50-60? That explains it all.

That's not exactly a reasonable attitude.. there's plenty of people in that age range who'd have a less intollerant attitude of this kind of thing than SLB is showing - and he's in his 20's. You forget today's 60-somethings were your age in the sixties. I doubt all of them were sitting indoors listening to Mel Tormé and guarding their virginity for Mr/Mrs 'Right'.
 

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I have cammed...I enjoyed it...I am and have always been otherwise faithful to my wife. But make no mistake about it...it is cheating. I have my reasons for doing it, but I still would rather not. Do I feel guilt? Not any more. Well...more accurately, that guilt has been moderated by need. That is my simple (if self-serving) answer. Humans have a wonderful ability to adjust their limits according to their needs. Should a starving man be prosecuted for theft for stealing a piece of bread? In the same way as a well-fed man? No matter what the answer, taking a piece of someone else's bread without paying for it is stealing, however it may be justified by the thief or others. And camming is cheating.
 

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Yes, the cheaters i.e. Drifterwood :wink: wish to get off on a loophole.

:aargh4: OMFG! :eek: I just agreed with Frizzle! :34:

Don't be a dumbass Drifterwood!! :aargh4: The difference is a fantasy, is just that; and a dildo is a lame substitute for a man. :tongue: She knows she will never have sex with Leonardo DiCaprio as do you.:mad::rolleyes: You jacking off on cam is different; because there is a real person on the other side who is genuinely interested and turned on by you. Even if they live 3,000 miles away, the potential for a relationship is always there hence the cheating issue.

Do you mind NJ. Nicole will one day find me.

I will respond properly tomorrow at some stage though I have a very busy day.

In the meantime, keep building your cages for each other.

And FWIW, it is the women with whom I have been who have been the cheaters. As I said before, I don't even have a cam :tongue:
 

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I don't think that people automatically own people heart and soul in a relationship. Different people need different amounts of space and freedom of expression in whatever way, within the limits that they set each ohter.
Ownership in a relationship is an illusion. People either freely offer themselves to their partner or they don't. My personal belief is that freedom in a relationship is created (or not) by those involved. Communication is more natural for some couples than others and if it doesn't come naturally, then the space and freedoms are often violated unknowingly. "Silent" boundaries if you will.

So on reflection, I would not have an issue if a partner wanted to do this sort of thing. Maybe doing it with a partner doesn't quite do the same thing on a fantasy level. It doesn't mean that they love you less etc etc.

Maybe people are very insecure about their relationships.

People will always be insecure in their relationships if they don't trust their partner. How that trust is established will vary between couples. What's the point of having a relationship with someone if you don't feel safe? That safety should be defined and measured by each couple, not what the general public thinks.
 

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Well, I see anything that's hidden or lied about as 'cheating' sexual or otherwise, but for that definition I personally would rephrase it to; "Any sexual experience that did not involve your partner and includes another person."

I'm with you. If I found out that my boyfriend was online jacking off with women on cam, I'd be beyond pissed.
 
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I'm with you. If I found out that my boyfriend was online jacking off with women on cam, I'd be beyond pissed.

New scenario for you, Tattooed Mama Meg: a straight guy in a long term heterosexual relationship is now into homoerotic literature and hooking up with guys online to flirt and jack off. He does it often with a number of men. His female partner does not know about this, although their sexual relationship continues. Because it is just casual cyber sex with men and not with other females, would it be cheating?
 

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jack doff, all straight guys aren't into experimenting with gays. don't let this site fool you.



that is also a message to all the dudes who keep pming me.
 

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HELL YES! It is cheating; and I would feel doubly betrayed if I found out about it.:mad:

New scenario for you, Tattooed Mama Meg: a straight guy in a long term heterosexual relationship is now into homoerotic literature and hooking up with guys online to flirt and jack off. He does it often with a number of men. His female partner does not know about this, although their sexual relationship continues. Because it is just casual cyber sex with men and not with other females, would it be cheating?
 
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Jack Doff, all straight guys aren't into experimenting with gays. don't let this site fool you.

That is also a message to all the dudes who keep pming me.

Not fooled at all, BigDuder, even if I had written that, which I didn't. But you have to admit, based on your last comment, it does go on here and it sounds like you're a target.

OK, guys, everyone back off and leave BigDuder alone.:eek:
 

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Cheating is betrayal of relationship whereby one person gives to another that which he/she should give only to his/her SO and receives from another what he/she should be receiving only from his/her SO.

Except for swingers actual sex is considered cheating by almost everyone.

Entering into a relationship with another person that replaces or diminishes that which exists with our SO might be considered a form of cheating, but may not be recognized as such when it does not involve the sexual or does not carry the immediate potential for sexual liaison. The term "emotional affair" comes into play here.

Personally I do not believe that any affair worth its name would not lead to sex. (but that's just me being a guy)

Although expressed in terms of sex, which for most people is considered the ultimate betrayal, the real issue is betrayal of relationship. The question then of whether other activities constitute betrayal depends on the nature of the relationship and what the parties expect of one another.
 

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Not fooled at all, BigDuder, even if I had written that, which I didn't. But you have to admit, based on your last comment, it does go on here and it sounds like you're a target.

OK, guys, everyone back off and leave BigDuder alone.:eek:


you're alright, jack doff. also your name is hilarious.
 

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sauteed them and fed them to him with a nice chianti.

I get your reference, but in the book it was a "big Amarone"... not a "nice Chianti"

Anyway!

I do think it's cheating... If i did it without my fiance's knowledge i believe I would b cheating, and the same is for her.

I think a sexual relationship between a couple should b kept between a couple... Her and I look at porn together, we masturbate together... If there is anything sexual to b done we do it together.

With two people who are as creative as we are the sexual things to do are limitless.

Stop focusing on porn and mags and cams, and focus on your lover... put some of that enthusiasm to use people!
 

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Yeah as I've said before if your partner doesn't know about it it's cheating, but some long term couples find themselves a little jaded with their sex life and use cybersex, camming as something to perk their sex lives up.
 

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The majority consensus is clearly that it is cheating. What will be interesting is both whether there is already an age differentiation in opinion and whether the morality of the practice will change. Only time will tell.

Sadly I don't have time to post all my thoughts on the morality of "cheating" and the potentials for inequality in expectation and acceptance. Thoughts that continue from Mercurial's knowledge in these matters. Hopefully I will have time tomorrow.

Besides this is the dead zone on the page.