Daily Use Cialis

[Humpy]

Tried a sample of 10 mg cialis a few years ago and it worked fine but I could definitely use some help on a more regular basis. Am thinking of asking my Dr. for the daily use dose. Am wondering if anyone has used this on a long term basis. Any lessening of effect over time? Don't think it has been around terribly long but any comments would be welcome.

 

[hung]

Humpy, you state not your age in your profile. Before you engage in a pill routine, consult your Medical Professional. You may merely need lifestyle changes.

I gave up smoking years ago and it helped my sexual response/hardness a whole lot.

 

[cdarro]

I'd be very careful. You don't want to go dicking around (no pun intended) with meds if you don't really need them.

 

[Humpy]

I'm 69, 5' 10" and 150 pounds. In good health. Eat very little beef or pork. So not sure why I don't get quite as hard as I used to. My sex is all solo and I try to ejaculate twice a week to keep things in good working order. Almost always I end up using a cock ring to increase the size and firmness. Otherwise it would take me 45 minutes or longer to finish things off. Just wondered who else used or heard of someone else using daily cialis. Are you charged to go all the time? Any bad side effects? Etc.

 

[MrGoodDate]

Here is an interesting article from New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/29/health/29patient.html?8au=&emc=au&pagewanted=print#

What I find interesting is that there are less expensive ways (in the long run) and viagra or cialis to help ED.
I have used the shots and they work wonderfully.
Hope you can open the web location.

 

[MrGoodDate]

Correction: "cheaper ways than perscibed drugs like viagra or cialis"

 

[D_Pubert Stabbingpain]

I'm 69, 5' 10" and 150 pounds. In good health. Eat very little beef or pork. So not sure why I don't get quite as hard as I used to. My sex is all solo and I try to ejaculate twice a week to keep things in good working order. Almost always I end up using a cock ring to increase the size and firmness. Otherwise it would take me 45 minutes or longer to finish things off. Just wondered who else used or heard of someone else using daily cialis. Are you charged to go all the time? Any bad side effects? Etc.

Humpy, have your doc give you the largest dose of Cialis and then buy a pill splitter. People have been saving $$ doing this since the first days of Viagra as the ED drugs all have the same price for different dosages. The Cialis daily dose is just a way to get them more money. Then, if the 1/2 dose does not do it for you, just stick with the full dose. Regular dose Cialis is really suppose to last 2-3 days that means, according to your twice a week schedule, you take 2 per week and with the 3 day effect, that should be enough.

Cialis, Viagra, Levitra, all gave me sides like I have a cold, Viagra a very bad sinus cold and Cialis, a backache. However, I never really needed these and don't have ED. Docs just wanted me to try samples due to a low T level. I just use Arginine (1 Gram up to 3 x the day I want to unload) and Zinc (1 30mg cap the day I want to unload) supplements. I also take DIM (All About Diindolylmethane (DIM)) to keep my T level balanced and high.

Best of luck to you.
:smile:

 

[chaoticbear]

Cialis tablets are almond-shaped, meaning that they are hard to split accurately, although this isn't as critical as other drugs. In this case, though, splitting the 20 mg tablets may not actually save any money. In the pharmacy where I work, 30 days worth of the 5 mg strength is about 140 dollars, about equivalent to buying 10 20 mg tablets. It would be worth saving the headache of splitting the pills to me to save the few dollars a month. (The 2.5 and 5 mg daily tablets are the same price, and the 10 and 20 mg as needed ones are the same price as each other as well.)

Also, ask your MD about a coupon for your first month, I have seen one-time use coupons come through that cover an entire month of the daily Cialis.

 

[D_Pubert Stabbingpain]

Cialis tablets are almond-shaped, meaning that they are hard to split accurately, although this isn't as critical as other drugs. In this case, though, splitting the 20 mg tablets may not actually save any money. In the pharmacy where I work, 30 days worth of the 5 mg strength is about 140 dollars, about equivalent to buying 10 20 mg tablets. It would be worth saving the headache of splitting the pills to me to save the few dollars a month. (The 2.5 and 5 mg daily tablets are the same price, and the 10 and 20 mg as needed ones are the same price as each other as well.)

Also, ask your MD about a coupon for your first month, I have seen one-time use coupons come through that cover an entire month of the daily Cialis.

Thanks for that update! I had not checked prices since the daily was marketed. I only looked at the 10 & 20 because that is all there was when it first came out. Good to see that Lilly/Icos lowered the cost for the 5's but the 2.5's look like a waste of money. Still, the 10 of the 5mg save about 30 bucks over splitting 10 of the 10 mg's in half.

Yep, splitting, even using a splitter where you can tuck the smaller end snugly into it, still produces less than perfect halves and there are lots of splinters left over but you just pop those in your mouth! :biggrin1:

I wonder if insurance still limits the 2.5 and 5's to only 10 per month? Would have to check the insurance price and compare it to say a box of 30 5mg. Still, with the 5's I imagine that you would only need to take 1 every other or even every third day. When I took 1/2 of a 10, I was good for about 2 1/2 days of feeling like a kid again, walking around with a semi all day and getting fully, dripping hard all the time. :biggrin1:

 

[sizehappens]

Lead a healthy lifestyle, eat plenty of fresh vegies and fruit, exercise 4 times a week, go for a job and you will not need any ED meds.

 

[chaoticbear]

I wonder if insurance still limits the 2.5 and 5's to only 10 per month? Would have to check the insurance price and compare it to say a box of 30 5mg. Still, with the 5's I imagine that you would only need to take 1 every other or even every third day. When I took 1/2 of a 10, I was good for about 2 1/2 days of feeling like a kid again, walking around with a semi all day and getting fully, dripping hard all the time. :biggrin1:

IME, if your insurance pays for Cialis in general, even with monthly quantity limits, they will let you get 30 of the 5mg tablets. Of course, the number on the back of the card is the only way to know for sure.

 

[D_Pubert Stabbingpain]

IME, if your insurance pays for Cialis in general, even with monthly quantity limits, they will let you get 30 of the 5mg tablets. Of course, the number on the back of the card is the only way to know for sure.

Now, if they can just find a way to get rid of the pesky delayed backache side effect! Ever wonder why pharma don't issue updated versions of their meds? It is not uncommon for vitamin companies to update to "new and improved" yet Pharma's would rather issue a whole new drug. I guess that has to due with the long approval required?

 

[chaoticbear]

Now, if they can just find a way to get rid of the pesky delayed backache side effect! Ever wonder why pharma don't issue updated versions of their meds? It is not uncommon for vitamin companies to update to "new and improved" yet Pharma's would rather issue a whole new drug. I guess that has to due with the long approval required?

In this case, I imagine it's because the market is already saturated with ED pills, and it wouldn't be a quick fix to eliminate that side effect. All three of the main ones have back pain as a potential side effect, so it looks like it may actually have something to do with its mechanism of action, although I can't think of what part of its mechanism would affect that. So this may mean that scientists would have to find a new class of drugs to treat ED.

But drug companies would much prefer to wait until the patent has expired, or nearly expired to release a new version of their drug, as they don't want two drugs that they have produced competing with each other for market share. Lately, the most common way to do this is to separate out racemic mixtures of drugs to only the active isomer. (Layman's terms: you have a box of gloves, only the left-handed gloves (as an example) are active in the body, the right-handed ones are inactive or cause adverse effects. (Famous example: thalidomide)) By purifying the drug to only include one isomer (glove), the drug is considered a new entity, and is eligible for a new patent. More recently:

Lexapro released when Celexa was losing its patent
Nexium from Prilosec
Kapidex from Prevacid
Xyzal from Zyrtec
Clarinex from Claritin

Although, with the exception of Lexapro and Nexium, both of which have been out longer than the rest, insurance doesn't like paying for the newer versions, since evidence is limited (or non-existent) that they work any better than their predecessors.

 

[D_Pubert Stabbingpain]

Although, with the exception of Lexapro and Nexium, both of which have been out longer than the rest, insurance doesn't like paying for the newer versions, since evidence is limited (or non-existent) that they work any better than their predecessors.

I am sure that it also has a lot to do with the fact that they don't want to pay the higher prices either. Thanks for the Pharma lesson!
:smile:

 

[lgtrmusr]

Cialis is great stuff. I sometimes use 10 mg when an opportunity seems likely. Just a suggestion of a situation and, like with a teen, the old cock responds. But occasionally I've noticed that while I have a really hard erection, it seems hard to come. Lots of enjoyment for me and my wife, but the final climax, at least for me, sometimes seems delayed. Anyone else with similar experience?

 

[FuzzyKen]

Cranky old Fuzzy Ken again on this subject. . . .

Cialis is a great drug. It works very well in assisting with cardiac function and many other great uses for Cialis are under investigation.

As an ED drug it is like all the others a "hit and miss" proposition.

When I started enjoying great sex and saving a great deal of money was when I gave up on pills and went to injections.

1. Injections act locally and are not as a whole systemic.

2. Injections if administered correctly are virtually guaranteed to work well.

3. Injections can be cheaper than the pills if the injectable is bought in bulk and
from the best sources.

4. The best deal is that contrary to popular belief, the injections I give myself are
virtually painless.

As an aid for erections Viagra (Sildenafil Citrate) and Levitra (Vardenafil) worked, but with limitations on me. They worked well about 25% of the time mediocre another 25% and the remaining 50% was not at all. I could get the drugs to work, but had to violate a great deal of safety margins in order to facilitate this. What I had to do to guarantee the drugs working and to gurarantee an erection every time was not great.
I changed over to injections and the effectiveness has been 100%. And these are good strong erections that make penitration a pleasure for me. In addition, the shots made me far less susceptable to the prolactin bolus we all have and on occasion I can go for "sloppy seconds" if I want to. Done right the shots are so far superior that if you've done them you'll never go back to the orals.

 

[D_Pubert Stabbingpain]

Cranky old Fuzzy Ken again on this subject. . . .

Cialis is a great drug. It works very well in assisting with cardiac function and many other great uses for Cialis are under investigation.

As an ED drug it is like all the others a "hit and miss" proposition.

When I started enjoying great sex and saving a great deal of money was when I gave up on pills and went to injections.

1. Injections act locally and are not as a whole systemic.

2. Injections if administered correctly are virtually guaranteed to work well.

3. Injections can be cheaper than the pills if the injectable is bought in bulk and
from the best sources.

4. The best deal is that contrary to popular belief, the injections I give myself are
virtually painless.

As an aid for erections Viagra (Sildenafil Citrate) and Levitra (Vardenafil) worked, but with limitations on me. They worked well about 25% of the time mediocre another 25% and the remaining 50% was not at all. I could get the drugs to work, but had to violate a great deal of safety margins in order to facilitate this. What I had to do to guarantee the drugs working and to gurarantee an erection every time was not great.
I changed over to injections and the effectiveness has been 100%. And these are good strong erections that make penitration a pleasure for me. In addition, the shots made me far less susceptable to the prolactin bolus we all have and on occasion I can go for "sloppy seconds" if I want to. Done right the shots are so far superior that if you've done them you'll never go back to the orals.

What is in the shots?
Anything saying they should not be used for "recreational" use by someone who does not have ED?
Where *exactly* on the penis do you inject them? The same place each time?
You say the refractory period does not immediately kick in "on occasion." Can you specify how often that is?
Is there an injection limit per day?

 

[chaoticbear]

What is in the shots?
Anything saying they should not be used for "recreational" use by someone who does not have ED?
Where *exactly* on the penis do you inject them? The same place each time?
You say the refractory period does not immediately kick in "on occasion." Can you specify how often that is?
Is there an injection limit per day?

It's alprostadil, a vasodilator. Trade name of the injectable is Caverject, of the urethral suppositories is Muse. You inject it into the side of the penis, away from veins, and not on the head. You are supposed to use it no more than 3 times per week, with 24 hours between each one, but having never used it, I can't speak to how bad it would be if you used it more often. Pfizer.com has the full prescribing information.

 

[lgtrmusr]

Gotta say, the concept of injecting the side of my cock, even with a tiny needle, is pretty daunting. The pay off is great, I'm sure, but the timing issue sounds like it sucks. The thing I like about Cialis is that I can take it around dinner on Friday, and be ready for action any time from an hour later through Sunday brunch. Or longer. No specific planning, but ready for any opportunity. I hear that in Europe it's called "the weekend pill."