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[ashlar]

Right .. so ... you come into a public forum, and spout off shit knowing it's going yield at least a BIT of disagreement, then get all pissy when it happens? pfft.

Furthermore, you’re stupid.
If you had even the slightest idea, or had bothered to read a good many of the posts, you'd know better than to write half the shit you just did about Jana. That alone, shows what kind of fuckup you are.

Just because you had a bad experience, fucked up situation, that you got yourself into, does not mean that everyone else has to have the same results. Sounds like you dug your own grave there buck-O.

A lie is nothing more than an illusion. By creating it, your force yourself to live in it. Apparently, you can't deal with reality, and have no idea what it even is. Of course, you are in Texas apparently, which explains a lot. Ever thought of a career in politics?

Now onto the "meat" (no pun intended) of your post:

To the rest of you that are in all your "honest" relationships...exactly when do you broach the subject to your S.O. that you hang out on a board all about GIANT DICKS?!?

The day I found it I told my "S.O." about it. We both began posting.

Not only that, but all you honest people out there who never cheat and lie to your spouses...what else do you do on the computer?

Whatever I want, and I tell him everything. Usually, he's right beside me or near by.

Oh, and to the gay guys who slammed dishonesty..when you find out the guy you are about to get down with is married, do get all guilt filled for the little woman sitting at home waiting on her sweet husband?

Yes, I usually offered to talk to them if they needed to about their relationship with their wives. However, a sexual relationship was out of the question until they ditched the bitch, then we could see.

Fuck no...you gobble his dick right down. So much for your honest halo.
What I think is that you all wrote the "correct" things...and stroked each other for being so good. Go ahead all of you, tell the truth- I did..see what it REALLY gets you.

It seems to me you got a chance to start over. So your wife left you cuz she like you humpin’ boys on the side (no, not the movie with whoppie). So what? If you want a be married to a chick and hump guys, find a new one who is OK with that.

Bottom line is... don’t take your frustrations out on others just because you can't get laid and are incapable of dealing with the consequences of your poor decisions. Just because you've decided to be hopeless, does not mean everyone else has to follow suit.

 

[steve319]

Hey, I'm not one to decide that this or that relationship isn't working for those involved on either side. God knows we all have had arrangements that "worked" at the time for whatever bizarre reasons.

There are, I think, some basic human respect issues at stake in relationships. I won't be presumptuous enough to pretend to know (or list) them, but I'd think that the right not to get beaten up by your spouse would be one, for example. (Ignoring that one party might enjoy being abused....)

Would another be the right to honest fidelity?

Cheating doesn't seem cool, no mattter if we decide (on our own) that the partner would be happier not knowing.

Maybe it's all in what the "marriage" means (on mutually agreed-upon terms) to both involved parties?

 

[jonb]

Ooh! This is fun!

Originally posted by Bigintex@Jun 19 2005, 01:46 PM
To the rest of you that are in all your "honest" relationships...exactly when do you broach the subject to your S.O. that you hang out on a board all about GIANT DICKS?!?

Some time after I slept with her so she knew all about my giant dick.

Not only that, but all you honest people out there who never cheat and lie to your spouses...what else do you do on the computer?

Look at the news. Check out a few (non-porn) newsgroups I'm on. Download some music to my iPod. Send a few emails. Bitch about a bad movie. Oh, and watch videos of myself playing basketball which I then analyze for sloppy form, write essays, manage my account, do slide shows, and store mp3s of my music which I haven't webified yet. Yeah, I'm sure she's really interested in this VERY MUNDANE ACTIVITY.

Oh, and to the gay guys who slammed dishonesty..when you find out the guy you are about to get down with is married, do get all guilt filled for the little woman sitting at home waiting on her sweet husband? Fuck no...you gobble his dick right down. So much for your honest halo.

Do all gay guys go for married guys? Since when?

I guess all I am trying to say is this...honesty SEEMS like the best policy...we have all been taught this but(&#33 how come everybody is lying, fucking around, cheating left and right and sluting their asses on the computer?

How does one slut one's ass on the computer?

Is the issue that we are talking about a gay/bi guy what makes this soooooo bad for the woman? See, what I find kinda funny is this- every bi guy(or gay) who is married that I know-treat their wives great. They are attentive, and YES! FRIENDS! They treat their wives with respect. A perfect husband/life mate. Aside from their BIG LIE(&#33 they are kind and loving and take care of thiier children and wife.

And the two are connected how?

Now, on the otherhand, I hear non-stop bitchin' from my female friends about their straight (I assume) husbands who treat them like shit. Abuse them in ways that stun me...friends? Forget it..they say they are lucky when hubby grunts at them now and again. Sex? What sex? Sure are a lot of 40 plus year old ladies who are sex starved by their straight husbands.

I repeat, and the two are connected how? For the record, I've always heard that menopause causes problems for the man because she's not as interested in sex.

Want? Would that be like "wanting" to be gay or straight or Bi? Want as in risking EVERY THING in your life due to an error/joke played on you by nature? Want as in feeling that yes, I to deserve to have a family? That line (and its counterpart "cake and eat it too") is so fucking tired. I have heard it from every millitant lez bitch, every flag waving fag, every smart-ass straight mother fucker on Earth-everyone who thinks they KNOW IT ALL.. M. Zora, honestly, you seem way to smart to use that foolish line. It has nothing to do with "want". I "want" a big screen TV...I do not "WANT" to be a cheating, lying bastard. Nature put me togeather this way and I do the best I can.

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If a guy doesn't "want" to be a cheating, lying bastard, then he shouldn't. Monogamy, wow, what a difficult concept. And yes, you can have a family and be gay. Ever heard of extended families? The current "your uncles, aunts, nephews, nieces, cousins, grandparents, grandchildren, in-laws, etc. aren't your family" propaganda is a direct result of 19th-century social engineering. Beyond that, there's always adoption. Or reproductive technologies.

Bottom line: You don't choose to be gay/bi. You do choose to be a slut.

 

[madame_zora]

Bigintexas, you will definitely not be chased out of here for disagreeing with me, we all have our own opinions. When you post in an open forum for advice, you may not like everything you hear, but that's what you're looking for- varying opinions to use for information purposes. You are free to reject ones you don't see as useful. Of course, you will make your own decisions about your own life.

As for the comments you directed to me, you could have saved a lot of words by not "assuming I'm in a stable realtionship" or that I owe jack shit to anybody, I'm not and I don't! Therefore you wasted a lot of time responding to your own inaccurate assumptions about me, more's the pity for you. I don't give a rat fuck how anyone feels about how I spend my time.

I also am not now nor have I ever been angry at all gay men because of one man's behavior. I was angry at HIM for being in denial and ruining both of our lives because of it, I was angry that I didn't get a vote in my own future. It is my firm opinion that every person should be able to CHOOSE what kind of life they want to live, but if you feel it is your right to choose for your wife behind her back, well I can't agree with that, nor do I feel the need to coddle you through this. Don't let it get to you, I'm just a bitch on the internet, and one you apparently don't care much for.

So you think honesty is not the best policy. Good for you. All I see is another woman who will eventually face what I did because some man thinks her opinion doesn't count, just his own needs. Did you really think any woman would agree with that? I can't see how any PERSON could agree with that. I'm sorry you're feeling down and want to lash out at reason, but that's your problem, not mine. I am brutally honest every day because I respect MYSELF.

 

[ashlar]

Originally posted by madame_zora@Jun 20 2005, 03:46 AM
...snip ...
So you think honesty is not the best policy. Good for you. All I see is another woman who will eventually face what I did because some man thinks her opinion doesn't count, just his own needs. Did you really think any woman would agree with that? I can't see how any PERSON could agree with that. I'm sorry you're feeling down and want to lash out at reason, but that's your problem, not mine. I am brutally honest every day because I respect MYSELF.

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*golf claps*

Well said, as always.

 

[Dr Rock]

Originally posted by madame_zora@Jun 20 2005, 08:46 AM
I am brutally honest every day because I respect MYSELF.

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I'm brutally honest every day because I hate myself ... but not nearly as much as I hate the rest of the human race :grr:

 

[13788]

hung_big:

Originally posted by Dr Rock+Jun 20 2005, 04:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Jun 20 2005, 04:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Jun 20 2005, 08:46 AM
I am brutally honest every day because I respect MYSELF.

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I&#39;m brutally honest every day because I hate myself ... but not nearly as much as I hate the rest of the human race :grr:

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Comon now, Al. Don&#39;t generalize. You love Romey, now don&#39;t you

 

[Dr Rock]

Originally posted by hung_big+Jun 20 2005, 09:07 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hung_big &#064; Jun 20 2005, 09:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Dr Rock@Jun 20 2005, 04:31 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora

@Jun 20 2005, 08:46 AM
I am brutally honest every day because I respect MYSELF.

[post=322372]Quoted post[/post]​

I&#39;m brutally honest every day because I hate myself ... but not nearly as much as I hate the rest of the human race :grr:

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Comon now, Al. Don&#39;t generalize. You love Romey, now don&#39;t you

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that doesn&#39;t count. romey transcends mere humanity.

 

[ashlar]

Originally posted by Dr Rock+Jun 20 2005, 05:14 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Jun 20 2005, 05:14 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-hung_big@Jun 20 2005, 09:07 PM


Comon now, Al. Don&#39;t generalize. You love Romey, now don&#39;t you

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that doesn&#39;t count. romey transcends mere humanity.

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Ok .. now it&#39;s my turn



:wub: :wub: :wub: For the Rock.

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by Dr Rock+Jun 20 2005, 08:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Jun 20 2005, 08:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Jun 20 2005, 08:46 AM
I am brutally honest every day because I respect MYSELF.

[post=322372]Quoted post[/post]​

I&#39;m brutally honest every day because I hate myself ... but not nearly as much as I hate the rest of the human race :grr:

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And this is why you are perched on top of that pedestal of mine.

 

[13788]

hung_big:

Originally posted by madame_zora+Jun 20 2005, 09:06 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Jun 20 2005, 09:06 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Dr Rock@Jun 20 2005, 08:31 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora

@Jun 20 2005, 08:46 AM
I am brutally honest every day because I respect MYSELF.

[post=322372]Quoted post[/post]​

I&#39;m brutally honest every day because I hate myself ... but not nearly as much as I hate the rest of the human race :grr:

[post=322498]Quoted post[/post]​

And this is why you are perched on top of that pedestal of mine.

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Hey...I&#39;m feeling left outta the ego (and other ) stroking

 

[Dr Rock]

Originally posted by madame_zora+Jun 21 2005, 01:06 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Jun 21 2005, 01:06 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Dr Rock@Jun 20 2005, 08:31 PM

I&#39;m brutally honest every day because I hate myself ... but not nearly as much as I hate the rest of the human race :grr:

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And this is why you are perched on top of that pedestal of mine.

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cool. wanna come perch on mine for a bit?

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by Dr Rock+Jun 21 2005, 01:13 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Jun 21 2005, 01:13 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by madame_zora@Jun 21 2005, 01:06 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Dr Rock

@Jun 20 2005, 08:31 PM

I&#39;m brutally honest every day because I hate myself ... but not nearly as much as I hate the rest of the human race :grr:

[post=322498]Quoted post[/post]​

And this is why you are perched on top of that pedestal of mine.

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cool. wanna come perch on mine for a bit?

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*Googles Travelocity for cheap flights to the UK*

 

[steve319]

Originally posted by jonb@Jun 20 2005, 12:37 AM
The current "your uncles, aunts, nephews, nieces, cousins, grandparents, grandchildren, in-laws, etc. aren&#39;t your family" propaganda is a direct result of 19th-century social engineering.

Indeed&#33; This whole myth of the "traditional family" structure is a relatively new concept and is generally limited to our very prescribed culture, not a long-standing way of living dictated by so-called natural law.

Now, I&#39;m not discounting the tough road walked in this country by kids or their families who do not fit the WASPy mold--I know it&#39;s hell because of the way our society is set up--but much of that pain is due to the actions of those who propagate and feed this myth.

 

[jonb]

Well, there usually come two forms of a myth: The first is that this is the only way something can happen. ("Marriage has always been between one man and one woman.") The second is that an alternative, usually an inversion of the current social order, once existed and it was worse. (A lot of matriarchal myths fit this type.)