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Does this scream "gay fetish" to you? Because it doesn't do anything to me. You see, gays aren't attracted to guys because they have dicks, we're attracted to guys because of everything about them.

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There is this thing called pansexuality, Biyo, sexuality is not a binary.
 

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Or maybe you're just limited in imagination and intelligence.
Let's this into perspective, an exhibitionist straight stripper/pornstar - someone who would never hook up with a guy outside of his workplace without any form of incentive - fucks a gay guy in front of a male audience.

Someone like you would say: Nah, he's a bisexual, you can't possibly have sex with a guy without being a little gay.

While someone with a basic understanding of fetishes and sexuality - someone who knows sexuality is purely about attraction and that if you're having sex with someone for anything other than that, it has nothing to do with your sexuality - would say he's an exhibitionist who is aroused not by the guys in the room, but by the attention he's getting, allowing him to have sex with a guy despite not being attracted to him at all.

Being "attracted" to femboys is more about attraction to the persona than anything. One way to tell if this "attraction" has any correlation with sexuality is if you're also attracted to the twink behind it. Bisexuals would be attracted to both while gays would be attracted to the twink, not the persona.
 
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Being "attracted" to femboys is more about attraction to the persona than anything. One way to tell if this "attraction" has any correlation with sexuality is if you're also attracted to the twink behind it. Bisexuals would be attracted to both while gays would be attracted to the twink, not the persona.
Pansexuality is not bisexuality.
 

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I don't ever recall trans girls being a gay fetish, does anyone?

It certainly can be a fetish and it depends on what you're defining as trans, tbh. I think most people use the word trans pretty loosely and it can sometimes, for them, encompass femme guys, traps, guys that crossdress, etc. Especially for guys that might be struggling with their own sexuality, the spectrum of trans can certainly help them justify or rationalize their attraction.

I don't know, I'm just rambling. I'm well aware that there is an obvious identity for trans individuals but I think we also need to understand that, unfortunately, not everyone defines it the same way.
 

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Let's this into perspective, an exhibitionist straight stripper/pornstar - someone who would never hook up with a guy outside of his workplace without any form of incentive - fucks a gay guy in front of a male audience.

Someone like you would say: Nah, he's a bisexual, you can't possibly have sex with a guy without being a little gay.

While someone with a basic understanding of fetishes and sexuality - someone who knows sexuality is purely about attraction and that if you're having sex with someone for anything other than that, it has nothing to do with your sexuality - would say he's an exhibitionist who is aroused not by the guys in the room, but by the attention he's getting, allowing him to have sex with a guy despite not being attracted to him at all.

Being "attracted" to femboys is more about attraction to the persona than anything. One way to tell if this "attraction" has any correlation with sexuality is if you're also attracted to the twink behind it. Bisexuals would be attracted to both while gays would be attracted to the twink, not the persona.


You're the one who is overcomplicating it. It's in the word dummy. Sexuality is based on sex. There are two sexes. Your sexuality is defined by your sexual tendencies and behaviors towards the sexes.

Fetishes are secondary and ultimately inconsequential because this isn't about feelings as much as it is about behavior.

When Scientists says there are gay penguins at a zoo, it's not because they have "gay fetishes or feelings", it's because they detected and observed homosexual behavior.

But people are afraid of being labeled something as basic as homo, hetero, or bi so they went ahead and created new labels to feel special and unique, they call it "nuance" even which it may be but also it is irrelevant.

A lot of men in a lot of cultures enjoy trans women or "femmeboys", but they don't want to be labeled homosexual for social reasons. Shame, fear, etc.

These are personal problems that have no foundations in a proper debate.
 

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You're the one who is overcomplicating it. It's in the word dummy. Sexuality is based on sex. There are two sexes. Your sexuality is defined by your sexual tendencies and behaviors towards the sexes.

Fetishes are secondary and ultimately inconsequential because this isn't about feelings as much as it is about behavior.

When Scientists says there are gay penguins at a zoo, it's not because they have "gay fetishes or feelings", it's because they detected and observed homosexual behavior.

But people are afraid of being labeled something as basic as homo, hetero, or bi so they went ahead and created new labels to feel special and unique, they call it "nuance" even which it may be but also it is irrelevant.

A lot of men in a lot of cultures enjoy trans women or "femmeboys", but they don't want to be labeled homosexual for social reasons. Shame, fear, etc.

These are personal problems that have no foundations in a proper debate.
Lmao you're the one oversimplifying it. Sexuality is all about ATTRACTION, not sex. In animals, attraction is the only reason they have sex but for humans we're way past that, that's why we don't use sex as a quantifier for sexuality. We have sex for money, for opportunity, out of fear, curiosity. Here's one short documentary that defines it.

Your entire argument past this doesn't make any sense that I can't understand the point you're trying to make.
 
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All the "evidence" people have on him isn't real evidence you could use in court lol. Anyone can make their name his on OF and then subscribe to someone and make up a story.
Granted, they're not signed affidavits, but those who want to believe will and those who don't believe won't. I just think that since by his own admission he's sought out trans and gay porn, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he falls off the heteronormative bandwagon.