Defunding Police...your Thoughts

[Industrialsize]

^. How did the world ever get this far? How did we get to 2020 without teachers aids, social workers, school psychologists (none, not even twice a week, imagine that!) and “school resource officers?” I was in classes with 50 kids and a teacher, and we NEVER had the issues going on today. No violence. No shootings. No outbursts. No bomb threats. Why? Maybe there was more respect in the classroom, and support from parents, and the expectation that we actually went to school to learn something. Crazy, right?

If only things could go back to the way they were in the 50's....

 

[Jjz1109]

If only things could go back to the way they were in the 50's....

Ad hominem, and wasn’t that long ago.

 

[keenobserver]

Ad hominem, and wasn’t that long ago.

No, actually it got worse with the Reagan Tax cuts. It all springs from that. Every single social problem you complain about is ultimately Ron's fault. I'm totally serious.

The tax cuts and all the GOP cuts after the initial cuts shifted the tax burden to workers away from corporations. This discouraged investment in industry, wages and benefits. If forced layoffs and job cuts as everything was sent out of the US to be made cheaper. The goal became max profits all the time. The loss of high paying jobs broke up families increased debt, drug use and hopelessness in what once were thriving blue collar communities. Look at Flint. Michigan. Republicans did that. You bitch about Democratic run cities, but the reality is cities like Flint, Baltimore are not badly run as much as they have nothing to work with - no jobs, no tax base, zippitty doo dah. Quite honestly the best thing we could do for Baltimore right now is move in 350,000 immigrants and their families. There are so many empty houses there they would not make a dent in the supply, but they would make the local economy thrive, clean up neighborhoods with local stores and enterprises. Immigration is not the problem, it can be part of the solution. But, you'd rather keep the brown skins out and the money on fewer and fewer white pockets.

It all comes back to the 1980's tax cuts.

This is off topic for this thread, so I'm not going to dig into this here.

 

[deleted15807]

If only things could go back to the way they were in the 50's....

Guys like us we had it made.

 

[deleted15807]

No, actually it got worse with the Reagan Tax cuts. It all springs from that. Every single social problem you complain about is ultimately Ron's fault. I'm totally serious.

Yep he is the originator and the granddaddy of how we got here. I often wonder had Carter not fucked up and he not lost where would the US be now? It most certainly would be this far into Reichland as it is now. It made a fateful turn in 1980 and is still reeling from the fallout. He introduced the idea of hating your own government and that idea has produced the man-baby president we have now. It's all downhill now.

 

[Jjz1109]

No, actually it got worse with the Reagan Tax cuts. It all springs from that. Every single social problem you complain about is ultimately Ron's fault. I'm totally serious.

The tax cuts and all the GOP cuts after the initial cuts shifted the tax burden to workers away from corporations. This discouraged investment in industry, wages and benefits. If forced layoffs and job cuts as everything was sent out of the US to be made cheaper. The goal became max profits all the time. The loss of high paying jobs broke up families increased debt, drug use and hopelessness in what once were thriving blue collar communities. Look at Flint. Michigan. Republicans did that. You bitch about Democratic run cities, but the reality is cities like Flint, Baltimore are not badly run as much as they have nothing to work with - no jobs, no tax base, zippitty doo dah. Quite honestly the best thing we could do for Baltimore right now is move in 350,000 immigrants and their families. There are so many empty houses there they would not make a dent in the supply, but they would make the local economy thrive, clean up neighborhoods with local stores and enterprises. Immigration is not the problem, it can be part of the solution. But, you'd rather keep the brown skins out and the money on fewer and fewer white pockets.

It all comes back to the 1980's tax cuts.

This is off topic for this thread, so I'm not going to dig into this here.

I’m sure you’re serious. And yes, it is off topic. Not only from the defunding police thread, but from my post responding to another post about “school resource officers.“ Not sure how your rant segued to Reagan, 1980 tax cuts, Flint Michigan, immigrants, Baltimore (where did that come from?), zippitty doo dah, and brown skins and white pockets, but . . . .whatever. Wow. That’s a whole lotta nothing there. Anyway, trolling along.

 

[keenobserver]

I’m sure you’re serious. And yes, it is off topic. Not only from the defunding police thread, but from my post responding to another post about “school resource officers.“ Not sure how your rant segued to Reagan, 1980 tax cuts, Flint Michigan, immigrants, Baltimore (where did that come from?), zippitty doo dah, and brown skins and white pockets, but . . . .whatever. Wow. That’s a whole lotta nothing there. Anyway, trolling along.

You raised the issue of how things got to this point, that you don't like the answer is your problem, not mine.

 

[Jjz1109]

You raised the issue of how things got to this point, that you don't like the answer is your problem, not mine.

Meh. I don’t not like your answer. Honestly, I personally don’t care. It’s just that your rant had nothing to do with the “school resource officer” issue. Whatever. It’s all good. Moving on.

 

[keenobserver]

Meh. I don’t not like your answer. Honestly, I personally don’t care. It’s just that your rant had nothing to do with the “school resource officer” issue. Whatever. It’s all good. Moving on.

Asked and answered. Try to keep up. Of course you didn't like it - it's what you voted for and here we are.

 

[Jjz1109]

Asked and answered. Try to keep up. Of course you didn't like it - it's what you voted for and here we are.

Oy vey.

 

[deleted15807]

Asked and answered. Try to keep up. Of course you didn't like it - it's what you voted for and here we are.

Funny how some spend all their time here worrying about the splinter in their neighbor's eye while ignoring the plank in their own.

Republicans often turn a blind eye (Didn’t see the tweet!) toward Trump’s racist and misogynistic outbursts. Those who do know better go along with the craziness hoping to be rewarded in the post-Trump GOP. In the meantime, the party has devolved into a cesspool of bigotry and mind-numbing conspiracies, with a large dollop of science denial. When a party wants to honor at its convention the couple who waved weapons at peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters, you have to conclude that it’s not only lost touch with Americans but also with decency and reality.

The GOP is a refuge for bigots and wackos​

 

[Industrialsize]

 

[deleted15807]

 

[keenobserver]

Biden to ABC's Robin Roberts: 'I don't want to defund' the police, but Trump does

 

[cycleguy]

Biden to ABC's Robin Roberts: 'I don't want to defund' the police, but Trump does

what does that mean?

 

[keenobserver]

what does that mean?

It means that Trump is planning to cut funds that hire and put cops on the street. It was an Obama era program. Trump is spreading the lie that Biden wants to defund police departments when in fact his policies will cut money to departments.

 

[cycleguy]

It means that Trump is planning to cut funds that hire and put cops on the street. It was an Obama era program. Trump is spreading the lie that Biden wants to defund police departments when in fact his policies will cut money to departments.

got it

 

[solomon46]

People Need to Read or Listen, so they can understand the this Definition. They want to use this as to Breakdown the Budget, all the Money is Being Budgeted for the Police will Be use to Add Different Dept.

Sol

 

[Jjz1109]

It means that Trump is planning to cut funds that hire and put cops on the street. It was an Obama era program. Trump is spreading the lie that Biden wants to defund police departments when in fact his policies will cut money to departments.

So how would trump accomplish this? Especially since the budgets are dictated by the local governments, mayors and budgets? So, I guess trump defunded the NYPD, and not Debalsio? Got it.

 

[keenobserver]

So how would trump accomplish this? Especially since the budgets are dictated by the local governments, mayors and budgets? So, I guess trump defunded the NYPD, and not Debalsio? Got it.

It is a Federal program. Try to keep up.