lucky8 writes:
There is so much deception going on right now by everybody, that it is foolish to trust anybody. Don't rely on being told what to believe. Look at the facts, and form your own opinions. It's healthy.
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Why this statement borders on the absurd:
1) "it is foolish to trust anybody" -- Nonsense. You must trust somebody, getting your information from somewhere, otherwise you'd form no opinion.
2) "Look at the facts" -- Fine. And from whom and I getting the "facts"? You just told me not to trust anybody, which, I assume, means your fact sources.
3) "form your own opinions. It's healthy" -- Which is something the majority of the posters on this forum regularly do. -- And to form opinions, our news and facts must come from someplace. If "it is foolish to trust anybody", can I trust the Congressional Budget Office report? Can I trust NY congressman Anthony Weiner whose opinion I respect?
This "It is foolish to trust anybody", "look at the facts" and "form your own opinion" is pablum. It's feel-good talk. They are empty statements unless you clue us into WHICH SOURCES are permissible to trust (you can't "form your own opinion" in a void).
You don't need "news" sources to obtain facts. Alternativley, you can actually READ THE BILLS, and using the knowledge you obtain from what you personally have read, form your own opinions. I know, it's much easier to have the CNN commentators tell you what's in them, or to trust your local representatives to point out the highlights of the bill, while leaving out all of the negatives (and there are many). I am against these bills not because of this "fear mongering" you speak of, but because of what I have read, with my own eyes. Besides, it's not fear mongering if what is being said is true, and unfortunately, a lot of it is. There have been good things in some of the proposed bills I have read, but there are also tons and tons of unnecessary, detrimental, and totalitarianistic sections in these bills that in no way, shape, or form will help to bring healthcare costs down.
Insurance companies are not the problem; however, high medical equipment and admin costs are. In order to address the problem of these unaffordable costs, private insurers have formed over the years to provide 2/3 of our population with medical care, care that none of these people, including you, would have NEVER had without your insurance. Sure, there are definitely some unethical practices that need cleaning up, and most non-catostrophic claims are a huge drain on resources, but to say insurance companies are the cause of all of America's healthcare problems is not only far from the truth, it's absolutley ludicrious.
If our government wants to cover everyone, fine, offer a public option, I am not against that. But here lies the problem: our "leaders" are disguising a private insurance takeover as a public option. It's not an option if you can't choose to look elsewhere for coverage.
It still baffles me why so many people think this thing needs to be rushed. It also baffles me as to why so many people could give a shit less about reading these bills before they are passed. This is going to lead to a monumental change in our country, IMO it's better to be safe than sorry. I understand democrats are worried they won't get every single tiny little thing they want out of the bill if it isn't passed soon. But this is HEALTHCARE reform, it needs to be well thought out and planned by as many business and medical
experts as possible. Notice my emphasis on experts. But no. Instead, (and I really don't want to politicize this, but there's no other way) democrats are using this as a childish revenge against insurance companies, doing whatever it takes to make sure they "win." This isn't about winning. That kind of egotistical pride and self-interest is what makes this country so sickening at times, and it's going ruin what could be a very positive moment for our future.
If you've read the bill and you support, great. But if you're just supporting it for the simple fact it was written by democrats, then you should be ashamed of yourself. 10 years down the road, those of us who have read these bills are all going to be saying "I told you so," and it's going to be becuase we were right.
But wait, I can't read this bill because it will only be available to me 36 hours before the vote. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it the democratic party who ran their campaigns on making sure the public could view bills at least 72 hours before a vote? Pardon me for not trusting people who say one thing to get elected, and do another once they get elected.
And furthermore, you have proven my point perfectly by referring to my previous post as "feel-good" talk and empty statements. Interesting how when Obama does it it's inspirational and informative, yet when an
assumed republican does it it's "feel-good talk" and "empty statements." We can sit here all day picking apart the political correctness of each other's statements, possibly the least intelligent form of debate, or you can challenge my
ideas rather than my wording, it's up to you.
