DHS/TSA Passenger Screening: Deliberate Instigation of Social Unrest

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  1. B_KendraLesnick831

    B_KendraLesnick831 New Member

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    I'd like to hear your opinions about these articles

    Northeast Intelligence Network
    DHS & TSA: Making a list, checking it twice

    Both articles talk about how the TSA body-scanners have little to do with national security and more to do with control; it also talks about how these devices are being used to deliberately elicit social unrest, and with those opposing them being labeled as potential domestic terrorists. The government is taking down every bit of data on people who protest the enhanced security procedures.

    In the first article, it talks about the process by which those in power have for decades have been working behind the scenes to erode our The Constitution, as well as our National Sovereignty, to further their objectives into the creation of a Global Government (Which a rational person of average intelligence could easily infer, would likely be unaccountable to the public will).

    It also touches upon the fact that the individuals in question are not accidentally mishandling the current airport security issue, but are doing this deliberately as a form of organized chaos with the deliberate purpose of manufacturing societal unrest.

    In the second article, it goes into additional detail in regards as to how people who work for the TSA at screening points are being instructed to obtain the identities of people who criticize or protest the enhanced security measures at the airport, and to report them to the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division, which is part of the Office of Intelligence & Analysis (IA) division's Extremism and Radicalization branch, which is part of DHS.

    As quoted in the second article:

    To make it worse, Obama is pursuing the idea of indefinite detention again (he had pursued the idea of indefinite, preventive detention, earlier in 2009, which at the time faced resistance, and was dropped), and is now working on codifying this into law

    Obama Administration Weighs Indefinite Detention : NPR

    He effectively wants to hold people without trial, which is against what the values this country stands for. To make it worse, innocent people who could get swept up in this would be unable to get a fair trial to clear their name. If this detention includes the ability to hold a person incommunicado (Obama has been asserting the right to deny people at Bagram the right to challenge their detention). How would an innocent person victimized by this be able to challenge whether this law is Constitutional?

    Since the laws of war already allow a Government to hold a person until the end of hostilities, it makes me wonder who exactly he plans to hold indefinitely. Will it just be terrorists? Or will it be innocent people who are outspoken about the government's activities? Could it include people people who protest these enhanced screenings at airports?
     
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    Well yeah - duh! It's hardly news.

    However, it's more about inuring society into accepting a complete invasion of their personal life, inculcating acceptance of random invasions of privacy, until it becomes the norm, rather than shocking.

    From pat downs & CCTV from school age up; to "terrorist" threats, & supposed DUIs.

    Erode personal freedoms, ensure compellance & pacification, re-educate free thinkers, & produce happy little worker drones who never question their masters.

    "Ignorance is Bliss" etc.

    The Republicans started it, the Democrats continue it, who will stop it?

    It's not like there's been another terrorist attack in the USA at all for 9 years, & being this is in a country where any individual can go & buy an arsenal of weaponry & slaughter 10's or 100's, might seem a little surprising!
     
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    Behold the USSA. Now that the Soviet Union is gone, someone has to take their place. It's the ultimate combination of fascism and socialism, all designed to impoverish the middle class, and enable police state control over everything.
     
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    VERY interesting. I missed this before I replied. Just before the Cultural Revolution began, Mao and the senior Communist Party of China leaders actually encouraged people to openly express their dissent. They pretty much begged them to come forward, from some of the translated texts that I've gone over. Change was promised and the iron grip of the Party was loosened while they came out and spewed.

    Of course, those who spoke out were all either executed shortly thereafter, sent to re-education camps, or were relegated to the Chinese version of the gulags. Thus began the great "cleansing" of subversive elements during the Cultural Revolution. I don't know what'll happen this time around, but lots of paranoia is definitely warranted.

     
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    Get out your tin-foil hats!
     
  7. B_KendraLesnick831

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    Crackoff,

    I know, yet we are always lead to believe that there's a constant imminent threat of terrorism from both internal and external sources. The fact that domestic terror is being focused on so much greater is a cause for concern as it's a great way to induce blind panic and fear, as well as turn people against each other; it obviously can be used even more effectively as a great tool to justify eroding the Constitution.


    Big Red,

    That's a correct, they did it to lure out those who were unhappy with the government, sucker them into expressing their true opinions; the Chinese government then used this to help better target dissident groups which were then imprisoned, or executed.

    Good to know there are people who still remember their history.

    I don't think we should be paranoid. As defined, paranoia is an extreme irrational distrust of others. If the distrust is rational, it's not paranoia. What I do think we should be, however, is skeptical about what is going on.


    Industrial Size

    You do realize that making tin foil jokes in this context basically undermines any attempt to discuss serious issues that are happening?
     
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    To be fair, many people do find this story lacking of any real severity whatsoever. From people trying to hoist John "Don't Touch My Junk" Tyner to the same level of Rosa Parks, to the twisted constitutional links, to the several propagated stories regarding the TSA when after fact checking it turned out that it's either not related or wasn't their fault, there's a reason why some people are making these comments.
     
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    Cue in creepy music from The Power of Nightmares... :wink:

    Kendra, ya got me there, and thanks for pointing it out to me. Paranoid was the wrong word. Rational distrust is what I meant. :smile:
     
  10. B_KendraLesnick831

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    Big Red,

    Understood
     
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    Just thought I let everyone know that I went through TSA last night. Nothing dramatic or traumatizing to report. Which is a shame because I intentionally didn't wear any underwear just in case I was one of the lucky ones to get touched by a man in uniform.

    Oh well... maybe that can happen here in Brazil instead. :biggrin:
     
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