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Puerto Rico hasn’t updated the Hurricane Maria death toll in 6 days
The outdated death count is a sign the government is broken.

Twelve days ago, Hurricane Maria trashed Puerto Rico, demolishing its already weak power, communications, and transportation infrastructure. The storm quickly gave way to a humanitarian crisis, with many of Puerto Rico’s residents struggling to access food, water, and fuel to run generators and cars. Help has been slow to arrive. And with each passing day, we’re learning more about the frightening conditions on the ground, from the sick being turned away from barely functioning hospitals to mothers desperate for water for their babies.
But one figure is disquietingly absent: an accurate death toll.

The official death count has not budged since Wednesday, when the Puerto Rican government said that just 16 people had been killed as a result of the storm. That prompted President Trump to claim Tuesday on his visit to the island that it wasn’t a “real catastrophe” like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, which had thousands of deaths.

Yet there is good reason to believe the actual figure is much higher than 16, and will continue to climb.

Omaya Sosa Pascual is a reporter with the Center for Investigative Journalism (CPI) in San Juan. She was skeptical of the government’s figure of 16 and began to call the 69 hospitals around the country, asking them about deaths related to the hurricane.

Pascual spoke to dozens of doctors, administrators, morgue directors, and funeral directors around the country, and wrote up her initial findings in a September 28 report in the Miami Herald. She then got Puerto Rico’s public safety secretary to confirm Monday that there have been dozens more deaths than the official statistic reflects. By her count, there are now an estimated 60 confirmed deaths linked to the hurricane and possibly hundreds more to come.

So why has the government been so slow to document the dead? Is this a cover-up, or just an administrative casualty of the all-encompassing crisis?

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/10/2/16392670/puerto-rico-death-toll-trump
 

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Really? Blame the Puerto Rican's again?

Trump, introducing his budget director in PR, said, "I hate to tell you Puerto Rico but you have thrown our budget a little out of whack."

Maybe they should think twice the next time they decide to have a hurricane.
 

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Puerto Rico hasn’t updated the Hurricane Maria death toll in 6 days
The outdated death count is a sign the government is broken.

Twelve days ago, Hurricane Maria trashed Puerto Rico, demolishing its already weak power, communications, and transportation infrastructure. The storm quickly gave way to a humanitarian crisis, with many of Puerto Rico’s residents struggling to access food, water, and fuel to run generators and cars. Help has been slow to arrive. And with each passing day, we’re learning more about the frightening conditions on the ground, from the sick being turned away from barely functioning hospitals to mothers desperate for water for their babies.
But one figure is disquietingly absent: an accurate death toll.

The official death count has not budged since Wednesday, when the Puerto Rican government said that just 16 people had been killed as a result of the storm. That prompted President Trump to claim Tuesday on his visit to the island that it wasn’t a “real catastrophe” like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, which had thousands of deaths.

Yet there is good reason to believe the actual figure is much higher than 16, and will continue to climb.

Omaya Sosa Pascual is a reporter with the Center for Investigative Journalism (CPI) in San Juan. She was skeptical of the government’s figure of 16 and began to call the 69 hospitals around the country, asking them about deaths related to the hurricane.

Pascual spoke to dozens of doctors, administrators, morgue directors, and funeral directors around the country, and wrote up her initial findings in a September 28 report in the Miami Herald. She then got Puerto Rico’s public safety secretary to confirm Monday that there have been dozens more deaths than the official statistic reflects. By her count, there are now an estimated 60 confirmed deaths linked to the hurricane and possibly hundreds more to come.

So why has the government been so slow to document the dead? Is this a cover-up, or just an administrative casualty of the all-
encompassing crisis?

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/10/2/16392670/puerto-rico-death-toll-trump

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/health/gupta-puerto-rico-essay/index.html

"Know this. When you hear the death toll has increased from the current official number of 16, know that most every additional death need not have happened. They were preventable."
 

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WATCH: CNN Reports People in Puerto Rican Clinic Forced to Eat Dog Food
by Aidan McLaughlin | 12:26 pm, October 3rd, 2017

CNN Correspondent Leyla Santiago joined the network Tuesday morning to report from the Puerto Rican municipality of Toa Baja, and gave some insight into the “desperate” situation that still plagues the island since it was devastated by Hurricane Maria.

Santiago first addressed the water shortage in Puerto Rico, noting that the packages of water arriving on the island were being cut in half “so that they could reach more homes.”

The correspondent then described an emotional exchange she had with a mayor in Toa Baja, who “was holding back tears.”

“He is seeing people day to day, and he’s saying the desperation is getting out of hand,” Santiago said. “He told me yesterday he had to deal with a gentleman who was about to commit suicide.”


“I spoke to a doctor that was right next to him who told me that one of his patients was eating dog food,” Santiago continued. “Patients eating dog food in a clinic.”
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-cnn-reports-people-in-puerto-rican-clinic-forced-to-eat-dog-food/










“He is seeing people day to day, and he’s saying the desperation is getting out of hand,” Santiago said. “He told me yesterday he had to deal with a gentleman who was about to commit suicide.”

“I spoke to a doctor that was right next to him who told me that one of his patients was eating dog food,” Santiago continued. “Patients eating dog food in a clinic.”
 
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The official death count has not budged since Wednesday, when the Puerto Rican government said that just 16 people had been killed as a result of the storm. That prompted President Trump to claim Tuesday on his visit to the island that it wasn’t a “real catastrophe” like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, which had thousands of deaths.

Just a footnote: the linked Vox report is somewhat off on the "thousands of New Orleans" deaths from Katrina.

A little under ONE thousand for the entire state had been directly attributed to Katrina, with another 500 or so (depending on source) attributed to deaths of out of state evacuees from causes possibly linked to the stress and trauma of evacuation. About 260 deaths occurred in five other states, the most of which were in Mississippi. The total overall approx. 1,800.

Btw, all studies have concluded that the failure of the city's floodwall system and the resulting deaths were due to deliberate shortcuts and flaws in the construction.
 

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Btw, all studies have concluded that the failure of the city's floodwall system and the resulting deaths were due to deliberate shortcuts and flaws in the construction.

Primary among these the decision to build and attempt to maintain an entire city below sea level?
 

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Primary among these the decision to build and attempt to maintain an entire city below sea level?

You mean like building cities on coastlines, on the side of mountains, or in tornado or earthquake prone areas?? Riiiiiiight. Another typically a-----------ole kind of response.

The city has been around for nearly three hundred years, bud. The Army Corp of Engineers knew what kind of levee system they needed to build and deliberately chose to build one substandard to the SPECIFICATIONS.


Yet typical of those of YOUR ilk, blame the victim. G-Y.
 
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You mean like building cities on coastlines, on the side of mountains, or in tornado or earthquake prone areas?? Riiiiiiight. Another typically a-----------ole kind of response.

The city has been around for nearly three hundred years, bud. The Army Corp of Engineers knew what kind of levee system they needed to build and deliberately chose to build one substandard to the SPECIFICATIONS.


Yet typical of those of YOUR ilk, blame the victim. G-Y.

Blame the victim who chose - knowingly - to live in a city below sea level and wonder how it could possibly happen to be flooded?
 

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Blame the victim who chose - knowingly - to live in a city below sea level and wonder how it could possibly happen to be flooded?

A lot of people in many places have had opportunity to wonder the same, chum.

But yeah, add the 370 thousand who love the city and choose to call it home, to the hundred thousand people who you call "theoretical" because, according to you, they ought to be able to jump through GOP hoops for THEIR right to vote, and the couple of hundred thousand "not so innocent" victims of gun violence who you blow off as people who shouldn't even MATTER in gun violence statistics, and what do we get?

A dismissive s-----------------b who sees "reality" ONLY through the narrow lens of his own overly expensive prism of privilege.

G - Y.
 
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Yeah, add the 370 thousand who love the city and choose to call it home, to the hundred thousand people who you call "theoretical" because, according to you, they ought to be able to get the required id to vote, and the couple of hundred thousand "not so innocent" victims of gun violence who you blow off as people who shouldn't even MATTER in gun violence statistics, and what do we get?

A dismissive s-----------------b who sees "reality" ONLY through the narrow lens of his own overly expensive prism of privilege.

G - Y.

You've left too many blanks. I can't even tell what shit you are slinging now.

G-Y?

I grew up writing complete sentences, not 140 character-limited stupidity.
 

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You've left too many blanks. I can't even tell what shit you are slinging now.

G-Y?

I grew up writing complete sentences, not 140 character-limited stupidity.

Whatsamatter? Never heard of cloze procedure? A "smart guy" like yourself ought to be able to figure it the ------- out.

Besides, YOUR president writes character-limited stupidity all the time. I figure you ought to be at home with it.
 

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Whatsamatter? Never heard of cloze procedure? A "smart guy" like yourself ought to be able to figure it the ------- out.

Besides, YOUR president writes character-limited stupidity all the time. I figure you ought to be at home with it.

Maddening stupidity. How about some haloperidol? You'll probably feel better, and the rest of us certainly will.
 

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Blame the victim who chose - knowingly - to live in a city below sea level and wonder how it could possibly happen to be flooded?

If Lewisville dam were to ever fail, significant parts of Dallas Metro would be submerged or washed away.

If the dam were to fail due to improper upkeep on the part of the army corps of engineers, would you blame the citizens of Dallas for choosing to live downstream of it?
 
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