DNA testing and genealogy

[BiItalianBro]

Very cool! Thank you Moloto.

I saw that the Wallgreens DNA/disease analysis has been blocked by the FDA.

 

[BiItalianBro]

Well, the results are in!!!!

My maternal side came from modern day southern Egypt/northern Sudan and migrated thru Caanan then to what is modern Syria...into Turkey then northern Italy and then Sicily. No shock there. The marker id's show heavy Bedouin on my mito side. Kind of interesting as many Sicilians are thought to be tied to Greeks and Moores rather than deep Nile Africa.

The shocker was my paternal side....very proud, Catholic Germans hehe.
The strain originated in what is now modern KUWAIT!!!!! They migrated to Persia and then modern Ukrane (of all places) and made U turns all over the damn place. Some went to central Asia...our strand went to modern Poland, then due south to settle on the French/German border....which is where my direct paternal ancestors came from...Alsace-Lorraine...with some Italian (Lombardi) intermarriage.

The breakdown was 89% European and 12% central Asian...but their concept of geography is pretty broad and not what I learned lol.

 

[Viking_UK]

Sounds like quite an interesting profile.

 

[Sergeant_Torpedo]

Anthropologists tell us that we are more related to each other than was previously thought. Oxford Professor of Human Genetics, Bryan Sykes, called to examine the Romanov remains and, the Ice Man, and Cheddar Man (the latter having living descendants in the area his remains were found after 5,000 years) offered DNA testing to the readers of his work: The Seven Daughters of Eve.

A couple of years ago in the BBC programme Who Do You Thing You Are they followed the genealogical research of a successful Welsh born athlete of Afro-Caribbean parentage. What I found baffling was his utter abject disappointment when his male DNA was sourced as the British Isles. Is this a form of inverted racism I wonder.

As with the originator of this interesting thread I am fortunate to have a detailed and ancient recorded genealogy. I share the male DNA of an Irishman of the 5th century, along with many anciently established families in western Europe. My mitochondrial DNA is English and also found in the orginal homeland of the English, Angle in Southern Denmark/Northwestern Germany - but came to me by a circuitous route from an eleventh century Englishwoman married to a Russe of Kiev.

If we were all aware of our complex ancestry there would perhaps be less ethnic prejudice. Unlike historical documentation, DNA cannot be manipulated - it is a wise child that knows its father.

 

[silvertriumph2]

For centuries and centuries, both my paternal and maternal families have always
been sticklers for keeping accurate and detailed family records. I've grown up with dusty boxes
of records, letters, and parchments, so it was only natural that I have been a genealogy nut since
I was a child. I have, for years, spent hours and hours digging through centuries of information
and doing further research.
I have records that trace my paternal family back to Scandinavia and the Viking Rus. My maternal
side had many holes in the information, but through the National Geographic and other DNA testings, I have been able to find lost segments of the family line and have met a number of new
cousins. One has been a friend since I was in the Navy and never knew we were any relation to
each other. It turned out that we have the same ggg-grandfather.
I spent only $99 at National Geographic and another $125 to obtain both DNAs. The amount of $600 seems a bit over the top.
GOOD HUNTING!

 

[Viking_UK]

Anthropologists tell us that we are more related to each other than was previously thought. Oxford Professor of Human Genetics, Bryan Sykes, called to examine the Romanov remains and, the Ice Man, and Cheddar Man (the latter having living descendants in the area his remains were found after 5,000 years) offered DNA testing to the readers of his work: The Seven Daughters of Eve.

A couple of years ago in the BBC programme Who Do You Thing You Are they followed the genealogical research of a successful Welsh born athlete of Afro-Caribbean parentage. What I found baffling was his utter abject disappointment when his male DNA was sourced as the British Isles. Is this a form of inverted racism I wonder.

As with the originator of this interesting thread I am fortunate to have a detailed and ancient recorded genealogy. I share the male DNA of an Irishman of the 5th century, along with many anciently established families in western Europe. My mitochondrial DNA is English and also found in the orginal homeland of the English, Angle in Southern Denmark/Northwestern Germany - but came to me by a circuitous route from an eleventh century Englishwoman married to a Russe of Kiev.

If we were all aware of our complex ancestry there would perhaps be less ethnic prejudice. Unlike historical documentation, DNA cannot be manipulated - it is a wise child that knows its father.

So true. I watched a doco where they traced the mitos and Ys of various people in the UK. Some were very disappointed to find out that they weren't as "British" as they thought.

I've only had my Y done so far, but it came back as expected - Scandi. My family tree is pretty interesting though and can be traced back to the Isle of Man and Norway, although we've been in Scotland for at least 500 years. I'd love to know more though.

 

[molotovmuffin]

So true. I watched a doco where they traced the mitos and Ys of various people in the UK. Some were very disappointed to find out that they weren't as "British" as they thought.

I've only had my Y done so far, but it came back as expected - Scandi. My family tree is pretty interesting though and can be traced back to the Isle of Man and Norway, although we've been in Scotland for at least 500 years. I'd love to know more though.

If you have documentation on 500 yrs....that is very impressive. :wink:

 

[D_Wally Walnuts]

I wouldn't mind trying that.

 

[BiItalianBro]

I agree that it was/is pricey...but VERY interesting!! This kind of technology goes to show that these are amazing times we live in

 

[Viking_UK]

If you have documentation on 500 yrs....that is very impressive. :wink:

Not really. Both sides of my family used to be fairly important, so there are all sorts of records going back as far as the 12th century. The hardest part to trace is a blip where there's very little documentation around the end of the 17th century. My maternal grandfather used to be able to recite his line, including direct ancestors' siblings, and also the children of the more recent ones, as far back as the father of a child born in 1609. (I just wish my memory was as good. I had to write it all down.) He knew the father's name, but not his birth date, and he didn't know the mother's name at all. However, all the information we've managed to find has backed him up. There's a gap of two generations which we haven't been able to find any details of, but as there was only one name in the docuements we've found which didn't match up with his list - and it turns out that the woman was more commonly known by her nickname, which is what he knew her by, while the paperwork recorded her offical name - so we're assuming that he remembered most, if not all of his family tree correctly. Plus the last three names he could remember tie in with the available paperwork from the earlier period. My father's side is a little more complicated as none of my living relatives could trace it back as far as we could on the maternal side, but the family name makes it fairly easy to pick up again on the other side of the blip. There's some uncertainty about which of three sons I'm descended from, but, to be honest, I can live with that, although it would be nice to fill in the gap, but I can't see that happening.

 

[Guy-jin]

Anthropologists tell us that we are more related to each other than was previously thought. Oxford Professor of Human Genetics, Bryan Sykes, called to examine the Romanov remains and, the Ice Man, and Cheddar Man (the latter having living descendants in the area his remains were found after 5,000 years) offered DNA testing to the readers of his work: The Seven Daughters of Eve.

A couple of years ago in the BBC programme Who Do You Thing You Are they followed the genealogical research of a successful Welsh born athlete of Afro-Caribbean parentage. What I found baffling was his utter abject disappointment when his male DNA was sourced as the British Isles. Is this a form of inverted racism I wonder.

As with the originator of this interesting thread I am fortunate to have a detailed and ancient recorded genealogy. I share the male DNA of an Irishman of the 5th century, along with many anciently established families in western Europe. My mitochondrial DNA is English and also found in the orginal homeland of the English, Angle in Southern Denmark/Northwestern Germany - but came to me by a circuitous route from an eleventh century Englishwoman married to a Russe of Kiev.

If we were all aware of our complex ancestry there would perhaps be less ethnic prejudice. Unlike historical documentation, DNA cannot be manipulated - it is a wise child that knows its father.

"The Seven Daughters of Eve" was an interesting book, I thought. I have to say, I much preferred the parts about tracing ancestry in the Pacific Islands over tracing European ancestry, to be honest. His later book about the genetic heritage of the British Isles was decent, though a bit dry and drawn out for what it found.

I do think it's wise for people to be warned, tests like those from 23andMe, Navigenics, etc. are notoriously inconsistent with each other and have pretty bad validations. I would not base any major life decisions on either of them without a follow-up by a geneticist to really test for specific mutations. By the same token, many of the "ancestry" tests are bogus, so be careful to get one that isn't. I recall in the back of my mind that there was one Oprah did that turned out to be complete hogwash.

Give it a few years and we'll just be sequencing your entire genome rather than just giving you a rough idea where you came from. :biggrin1:

 

[Northland]

My baby brother stopped by my house on Sunday to warn me that I would get a package delivery sometime this week from a DNA testing company.
Apparently he will submit an oral swab and in about 6 weeks, he will get an analysis of our Y and mtDNA that will track our racial lineage and migratory patterns back about 1,500 years....for around 600 bucks.

I am curious to see just what things about a bloodline one may find out. I assume that despite the HUGE physical differences with my brother (he is 6ft3, pale, smooth and blonde...i am, well..short, dark and hairy) that our genetic code is the same.

Anyone eve done this?? Was it worth it?

Never done it, never had a real desire to. I am who I am and I might get really screwy in the head if I found out I wasn't who I thought I was.

 

[B_Hickboy]

It proves that we are all related.

 

[B_subgirrl]

You can get the Y and the mDNA done here for $250. We keep meaning to get it done but haven't gotten around to it yet.