Do Bi Guys Turn on the Ladies?

[Multipass]

I'm not into muscle bound guys going at it or anything, but it's awesome to hear that you guys are. Maybe It's just the friends I've made over the years, but girls are always downplaying ANY sexual attraction to the male body or penis.

I know the mind is what counts the most, but it's refreshing to hear your gals appreciate some muscles and a big dick :smile:

 

[Matthew]

Yup, though I would argue that on the whole, bisexuals as a population are more likely to be polyamorous.

Sares - what makes you think that?

 

[sares]

Sares - what makes you think that?

the friend in question is a bisexual activist, and he is very active in the subculture. I get most of my info from him, and consider him a "primary source" as it were :smile:

And specific to his case, he's been in several monogamous relationships (male & female) but is finding he really, really wants both.

 

[readingHelpsMe]

At the beginning of this post there seemed to be an insinuation that men that were bi would be 'metrosexual' or at least have more feminine characteristics like the stereotypical gay guy.

Just because a guy is gay or bi does not mean that he can not be masculine. I mean just look at gay bear men. Some of them are almost the epitome of masculine (hairy and muscular).

Just thought I would mention it.

 

[pichulon]

How about that? More replies from women who like gay porn. Are you taking notes, Pichulon?

Mercurialbliss. Yes, I can see the posts Mercurialbliss...
As I stated in my posts, I am trying to understand one thing in particular, and I do not understand the defensive stance on some members.

Let me explain.
It is known that FF sex is become an attraction to many men.
I participated here at LPSG in a thread about ff sex and straight males.
It was concluded that men like FF sex scenes, and many men compell their GF's into performing, wether the woman did it on her own volition, or if she was feeling herself coerced, that is another area of the discussion.
What I can see from reading, is that, on the opposite side of the expectrum ( and we can also read those opinions in this thread ) is that some females ( I can not say all females) enjoy watching MM sex porn.
Good, up to that point, my investigation , my quest for knowledge, ( and it is not a quest to opress or to show off homophobism, ) takes me to compare both sides of the issue.
On one side, some heterosexual men like to see FF sex scenes.
On the other side , some heterosexual females like to see MM sex scenes

Now, out of the number of males that like FF sex scenes, how many men actually fantisize about their SO's having sex with another woman???, and how many of those men do ask their women to perform same sex for them??

On the other side, and this is my point of interest ( I do not see the offense). How many of those women that enjoy MM porn, fantisize about their BF's engaged in sex with another man? And how many of those women would actually ask their BF's to engage in same sex practices?

That is the focus of my inquiry.

There is no offense, I can not see the offensive part.

From what I read so far, far more men that enjoy FF sexual scenes, would be inclined to ask their GF's to participate in a FF sex encounter, and many more men would fantasize about their GF's in a sex scene with another woman

Because, so far, I draw inference from the responses. Seems apparent that women who enjoy MM sex scenes, would not ask their BF's to participate in a MM sex encounter, and, also seems evident , so far, that many women that enjoy MM sex, do not fantasize about their own BF in a sexual encounter with another man.

Would it be fair to say, there is a difference in the outlook on both sexes??

It is learning. I never intended to put down nobody.

What are your impressions, am I correct in drawing this conclusions ??
Off course, we would need a larger sample of respondents.

 

[naughty]

OK,

I think that I would prefer to have a fully heterosexual male. That however does not answer the question as to whether I would be attracted to a bi male. I dont know. It depends upon the person.Their sexual orientation is only one part of the equation. I happen to know some men who are gay or bi and put the f in fabulous. They are kind, considerate, well mannered, accomplished, gracious, tasteful and down right sexy! I would want someone who was truly into being committed to me, however because I intend to give 100% as well to the right person. But then there are men who cheat who are 100% hetero.... go figure!

 

[Ethyl]

Mercurialbliss. Yes, I can see the posts Mercurialbliss...
As I stated in my posts, I am trying to understand one thing in particular, and I do not understand the defensive stance on some members.

As far as I can tell, no one is defending themselves. Only clearly stating what they like or don't like.

On one side, some heterosexual men like to see FF sex scenes.
On the other side , some heterosexual females like to see MM sex scenes

Ok. I follow you.

Now, out of the number of males that like FF sex scenes, how many men actually fantisize about their SO's having sex with another woman???, and how many of those men do ask their women to perform same sex for them??

On the other side, and this is my point of interest ( I do not see the offense). How many of those women that enjoy MM porn, fantisize about their BF's engaged in sex with another man? And how many of those women would actually ask their BF's to engage in same sex practices?

Let me guess. You're thinking that if there are as many women who like gay male porn as there appears to be in this thread and others, there would be more women asking their partners to engage in bisexual behavior? If not, are you suggesting you have reason to disbelieve us when we say we like gay porn? I'm thinking, yes.

Because, so far, I draw inference from the responses. Seems apparent that women who enjoy MM sex scenes, would not ask their BF's to participate in a MM sex encounter, and, also seems evident , so far, that many women that enjoy MM sex, do not fantasize about their own BF in a sexual encounter with another man.

Maybe we do but we're not about to ask someone to do something we know they don't want to do.

Would it be fair to say, there is a difference in the outlook on both sexes??

NO. However, it's fair to say that women who won't ask their partners to unwillingly engage in sexual behavior are more considerate than the men who try to force their partners into bisexual behavior.

It is learning. I never intended to put down nobody.

I have my doubts about that.

What are your impressions, am I correct in drawing this conclusions ??
Off course, we would need a larger sample of respondents.

We know it doesn't matter if every woman on the face of the earth would respond to your requests. Clearly, you've made up your mind.

 

[B_Stronzo]

Dear Jesus.

Good luck MB.

Perhaps he needs to look at a broader 'expectrum'

 

[pichulon]

We know it doesn't matter if every woman on the face of the earth would respond to your requests. Clearly, you've made up your mind.

Thanks for your enlighted reply.

My mind is not set about this topic.
I learnt something really important, that I did not consider before. Women are perhaps more considerate than men, and, women do not wish to compell their loved one into a practice by forcing him. Fair enought, I think that is valid and true.
That would explain why females do not ask their partners to engage in those acts. Men being more aggresive, tend to force their partners.
There is one area I still do not find the explanation, perhaps someone can enlight me on it. The area about women fantasizing about their BF's with another man. That is a private area. No coercion.

Why less women say they do not fantasize about their BF's with a man, while men tend to fantasize about their women with another woman?
( case at hand, men and women who enjoy FF and MM , heterosexual couples ).

 

[pichulon]

Dear Jesus.

Good luck MB.

Perhaps he needs to look at a broader 'expectrum'

Hi Stronzo, seems like the building is a small one huh?

 

[sares]

From what I read so far, far more men that enjoy FF sexual scenes, would be inclined to ask their GF's to participate in a FF sex encounter... women who enjoy MM sex scenes, would not ask their BF's to participate in a MM sex encounter... Would it be fair to say, there is a difference in the outlook on both sexes??

for want of a better word: "duh"

here are some traditional gender generalizations that will help explain the Simply! Incomprehensible! dissonance to you:

1. In old gender models where the man is the source of power, women's power comes from the possession of a man. There are still echoes of this in heterosexual relationships, where a woman must do anything to keep her man (her power). I bet you most of the women on this board have had an older relative admonish her to keep that man!
2. It is more socially acceptable for a woman to touch another woman, especially with the consent of her man. Note the overtones of ownership in this context.
3. Gay sex and "submissive" sexual behaviours are not disparaged because they are gay, but because they are considered feminine. For a man to act "like a woman" is degrading. The fact that gay sex is decidedly non-feminine much of the time is beside the point; any receptive sexual act is tarred with the "feminine=weak=powerless" brush.

So, taking these (again! generalized) factors into account, you can see that, on the whole, a woman is more likely to capitulate to her man's wishes and less likely to try and impose her wishes on him, especially if he resists.

AND a man has pressure himself not to admit to, or act on, any bisexual urges he may have.

However, it's fair to say that women who won't ask their partners to unwillingly engage in sexual behavior are more considerate than the men who try to force their partners into bisexual behavior.

Also, this.

 

[B_Stronzo]

my god. this is ridiculous. you are so self-centred that you think everything is about the man in this situation. it's too weird to you that women might have preferences of their own indepenent of a guy, that you can't help but see it as relative to yourself.

sares,

It's the inherent (and pervasive) flaw in his banter. Nevermind that he's verbose simply to be verbose but he convolutes every responsible answer any of our women posters write to him in order to adapt it to his skewy reality.

It's the reason I stated on another thread that often "misogyny and homophobia" appear to be bedfellows.

It's what I've been trying to get across to him since we first crossed swords. He doesn't see anything other than from his own frame of reference.

It's truly a bit frightening. For more go see the "100% straight" thread. He appears NOT to be the only one suffering from this particular myopathy.

 

[B_Stronzo]

Hi Stronzo, seems like the building is a small one huh?

only on the first floor

 

[vinny_spiruccino]

Gay sex and "submissive" sexual behaviours are not disparaged because they are gay, but because they are considered feminine. For a man to act "like a woman" is degrading. The fact that gay sex is decidedly non-feminine much of the time is beside the point; any receptive sexual act is tarred with the "feminine=weak=powerless" brush.

You and I are going to become fabulously fast friends, Sares. I'd like to reiterate the sentiments of a few other posters in this thread alone - you're posts are quite refreshing, intelligent, and well spoken. You got my vote baby, I'm glad you're here. Now that we've established that. I'll tell you why:

What I've quoted you here saying, is precisely how I see it. Two women together = "every man's fantasy" so to speak. Subconciously, they've elevated themselves to perform the role of a man. But for a man to be feminine, or God forbid a bottom is seemingly the ultimate degredation of all things "manly". HE, unlike his female counterpart, has lowered himself to the submissive, receptive role of a woman and forsaken all things "macho". I think this is the root of homophobia. Just my opinion. I perception of this mentality is that it is parallel to the racist mentality that "black men all want a white woman" so they can elevate themselves a rung up the societal ladder.

So I'll now take this opportunity to be REALLY gay and quote the ever divalicious doyenne of gay icons... Madonna - "Do you know what it feels like for a girl...?"

Disagree if you will, just my two cents...

 

[pichulon]

sares,

It's the inherent (and pervasive) flaw in his banter. Nevermind that he's verbose simply to be verbose but he convolutes every responsible answer any of our women posters write to him in order to adapt it to his skewy reality.

It's the reason I stated on another thread that often "misogyny and homophobia" appear to be bedfellows.

It's what I've been trying to get across to him since we first crossed swords. He doesn't see anything other than from his own frame of reference.

It's truly a bit frightening. For more go see the "100% straight" thread. He appears NOT to be the only one suffering from this particular myopathy.

Stronzo, again, we have to agree to disagree.

The point I am stressing, and it is valid, is a different psycosomatic process in both genders.

It is a valid point, and it is not the product of homophobic nothing.

My point is , and it was expressed in my last post.
I will quote it:

Pasting more than quoting it.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Quote:
Originally Posted by mercurialbliss
We know it doesn't matter if every woman on the face of the earth would respond to your requests.

Thanks for your enlighted reply.

My mind is not set about this topic.
I learnt something really important, that I did not consider before. Women are perhaps more considerate than men, and, women do not wish to compell their loved one into a practice by forcing him. Fair enought, I think that is valid and true.
That would explain why females do not ask their partners to engage in those acts. Men being more aggresive, tend to force their partners.
There is one area I still do not find the explanation, perhaps someone can enlight me on it. The area about women fantasizing about their BF's with another man. That is a private area. No coercion.

Why less women say they do not fantasize about their BF's with a man, while men tend to fantasize about their women with another woman?
( case at hand, men and women who enjoy FF and MM , heterosexual couples ).

 

[Multipass]

I dont see why you guys are arguing. Just let people answer the question.

 

[AlteredEgo]

Two women together = "every man's fantasy" so to speak. Subconciously, they've elevated themselves to perform the role of a man. But for a man to be feminine, or God forbid a bottom is seemingly the ultimate degredation of all things "manly". HE, unlike his female counterpart, has lowered himself to the submissive, receptive role of a woman and forsaken all things "macho". I think this is the root of homophobia. Just my opinion. I perception of this mentality is that it is parallel to the racist mentality that "black men all want a white woman" so they can elevate themselves a rung up the societal ladder.

So I'll now take this opportunity to be REALLY gay and quote the ever divalicious doyenne of gay icons... Madonna - "Do you know what it feels like for a girl...?"

Disagree if you will, just my two cents...

Brains AND beauty.... *sigh*:clit:

 

[vinny_spiruccino]

Brains AND beauty.... *sigh*:clit:

**gushes** And what else??

 

[rawbone8]

**gushes** And what else??

inexhaustable charm ?


Vinny, it's just not fair !

 

[sares]

(blushing at warm welcome, not saying anything else to avoid me-me-me-party)