Do gays hate women?

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abhijit: I don't know if this applies but I'll put it anyway.
A quote from a lesbian: "I don't hate men.... I LOVE men... I just don't want to sleep with any." Most homosexuals don't mind the opposite sex and I think those who hate or are afraid of the opposite sex are not that way because they are gay, but become gay (or asexual) because they are that way.

 

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rikter8: I dont hate women, I just dont like the generation of girls that are blossoming into women.

Im sorry but Britney Spears, and all those other teeny bopper chics are just s.l.u.t. wannabees.

I have no problem with women that are respective to themselves, no attitude, and not flaunting all of their skin everywhere.

Example:
I had a new student in our laboratory arrive.
Keep in mind, this is corporate environment, customers coming in and out (Large Automotive Companies) and high speed rotating equipment.
She comes in, in a Skin Tight white blouse - no bra, boobs half hangin out, tight hip hugger pants, a ROPE around her waist hanging down to her knees, blue eyeshadow, an amount of blush that could clog my air buffer, 4" spike heal shoes and an attitude that screams "I am the shit"
The boys loved it - they oogled over her all day, and she liked it too.
I asked her to remove her rope belt due to safety concerns and to button up her blouse because it was offending some people.
She told me "Your not my boss, and your not my boyfriend, so get lost".
Oh..honey...wrong choice of words.

I had her escorted out by security.
The guys to this day resent me, and to this day, every time I see a chick in hip huggers I just gag.

So in that respect, I guess I do resent chicks like this.

Normal chicks I get along with GRRREAT!

Corey

 

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wvalady1968: I agree with you, Corey.

 

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sudas: The first time I'd heard of Britney Spears was from ads I kept seeing that said "see naked pictures of Britney." I thought she must be a porno star or Playboy centerfold! Later I found out she was an underage singer.

What you refer to with clothing is a lack of understanding and respect. What's acceptable on a dance floor is not in a business environment. Young people need some lessons like the one you gave.

I saw a show on the Amish, it said they needed tourist money to sustain their lifestyle and buy more land, but didn't want to be exposed to modern values. I came up with a suggestion for a sign on the door of a shop: "no shoes, no shirt, no long pants: no service." ;D

 

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headbang8: [quote author=geo8x6 link=board=relationships;num=1061335009;start=40#51 date=09/05/03 at 20:57:37]See Jacked's post on meet and greet and you tell me.[/quote]

Jacked was plain damn rude. So I joined everyone in flaming him. But his reply made me think.

So I wrote him a more considered response:

[quote author=headbang8 link=board=meetgreet;num=1062778561;start=20#27 date=09/27/03 at 22:25:10]

Jerked, I’ve given it some thought. I take your point.

Imagine there's a Large Breast Support Group, and a member who happened to be a lesbian posted a notice inviting other lesbians in her area to meet for a bit of breast appreciation. If a straight guy offered to be the judge, they would tell him to fuck off in no uncertain terms.

You simply did the same with the genders reversed, which is fair. You have every right to repel unwanted sexual attention. (Women have got to agree with that, surely.)

That said, I agree with most of the fellow posters that there are probably better ways to tell someone to fuck off. Many internet message boards collapse in a wall of flames. Sensible discussion turns into a volley of insults (which a few find funny) and smart contributors stay away.

Given the nature of what brings us together here, I think it’s wise for us all to avoid exchanging insults. Even if you felt the insult was provoked. Good natured barbs can turn nasty when you’re talking about something personal. And there’s nothing more personal than your cock.

As I pointed out, none of the gay guys on this board get called “fag”—even in jest—for exactly that reason. Let’s extend the same courtesy to the “fish”—who are big fans of ours, remember.

Good luck with your big cock group, buddy. Stay powerful. And use the power wisely.

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Men who grew up with feminism have schooled themselves to be cautious when they approach women. Older generations were pretty insensitive about how uncomfortable it made women feel when they "made a pass", in the quaint terms of the day.

I'm sure it was perfectly innocent and unintentional, but Wvalady1968 made a pass. And I'm afraid she experienced the same thing that a guy does when a girl throws a drink in his face.

In most cases, a drink-in-the-face is an over-reaction to a harmless flirtatious joke. The same goes here. There are polite ways not to take a pass if you're not interested. Jerked didn't use them, and we flamed him for insulting a valued member of our online community.

Still, it kinda shows a double standard. I think we all have to admit that we're more comfortable with a woman who tells a man to fuck off when he makes a pass at her, than the other way around.

Sorry to bring the thread to the top again, since Irishlad quite rightly points out how hateful the topic title is. But I had to add my two cents on this subject.

And to wvalady1968--I'm glad you started this discussion. A great big hug for you. :-*

 

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micro: Strangely enough, I think I mistrust women. That is why I won't have any sexual relationships with women. Someone said that gay men have issues with their mother. I did/do, actually I have issues with BOTH my parents.

Freud said that little boys have a fanasty of killing his father and having sex with the mother. I can remember wanting to do both when I was a child. Of course its one of those thoughts which just passes by, and never gets actualized.

 

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Javierdude22: Hm, Micro, if you want, can you elaborate on that you mistrust women and that th'ts why you don't have sex ith them?

I think Freud did good things for Psychology, a few good things, but he pushed it and made himself a bit ridiculous with certain theories. Especially them not being very empirical.

I also hardly think that being gay has anything to do with someone not getting along with their mother. I know science has a tendency to want to make generalisations, but simple logic will do often times to see what reality is really like. Some people get along some don't.

On the topic: I do think there is a group of gay people that not so much hate women (very strong word) but get a rather competitive feeling about them, if I can make that naalysis. I work , for my student job, in an entertainment center. Needless to say we have a lotta shows that stars a larger than average amount of gay people in them. My women co-workers get some really shitty reactions from them almost weekly, the male workers get hit on shamelessly.

I have no real explanation for it, but I do think it paints a clear picture that there are indeed (not only in showbizz) quite a few gay people with an attitude problem bigger than life itsself towards women.

 

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throb919: [quote author=Javierdude23 link=board=relationships;num=1061335009;start=60#66 date=09/29/03 at 13:29:52]I have no real explanation for it, but I do think it paints a clear picture that there are indeed (not only in showbizz) quite a few gay people with an attitude problem bigger than life itself towards women.
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Javvy--can't take issue with that. Just wanted to suggest you could've stopped a couple of words short and it would've still worked: "there are...quite a few gay people with an attitude problem bigger than life itself." Period.

 

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Javierdude22: Tony, I know it sounds kinda judgemental, but that attitudeproblem oftentimes provokes different reactions to the different sexes.

With guys they become overly confident with themselves, with girls they oftentimes respond in a negative way towards them. Both are attitude problems, but the males get hit on for it, the girls get bad remarks.

 

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47boreas: I think that adult well-balanced person does not hate anybody.

 

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Inwood: On the whole I don't think gay men hate women. There are a few who do and are very vocal about it. Why, I have no idea, but they do.

Now I don't hate women and I hope to avoid ever using that line "some of my best friends are..." but there are times when I don't want women around. Like a really good night at the bar when there's a lot of energy in the air and perhaps in my hand(s).

I did one of those "gay man ;D talks to Psychology 101 class" things when I was younger. A lot of the straight guys in the class were asking somewhat hostile questions when one of the ladies asked this question. My answer was to say generally no but that the lady who asked the question should come with me to the men's locker room so she could find out how the straight guys really felt about women. There was an extremely uncomfortable silence among the men in the class at that point. And the women weren't too happy with the answer either.

I love my mom and dad. I get along with members of both sexes. I do not like some people and I know I hate one person . The question is a little tiresome but since that bit of disinformation is constantly spread it has to be constantly answered.

 

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sammygirly: The gay men that I know don't hate women. Seriously, just because they prefer one sex doesn't necessarily mean they hate the other.

For example, I like men with light coloured eyes - doesn't mean I hate men with brown eyes.

Also, I think the thing that strikes me funniest is the concept that men are gay because they haven't found the "right" woman ... or ... they've had all the "wrong" women.

That of course leaves wide open the reasoning for homosexuality - but why do we, as humans, prefer anything over something else? Why does it have to equal hatred?

 

[D_Martin van Burden]

It really depends on how one frames that preference. I've had talks with people over the years who try to explain, and goodness knows they mean well, that just because they prefer a particular type for physical attraction, that doesn't mean everything else is, how do you say, bologna.

But unfortunately, it doesn't always come across that way. Finding guys and girls both guilty of this, I've seen (and experienced) time and time again that if someone has such a preference, it's almost as if anyone who approaches them that isn't that preconceived ideal doesn't even deserve courtesy. I've experimented with this a bit online. I can talk to almost anyone, give a basic rundown of my vital statistics (height, weight, etc.), say what I'm into and what I like to do for fun, and such; it's attractive to most, I'd say, and to play the Devil's Advocate, I refuse to send a photograph. It seems like ethnicity's one of those things you can be really blunt about or not. So whenever I'm asked "are u black or white?", responding "Greek" gets an ooh-la-la! sort of reaction; "Black" gets an "oh." Seriously, I've been told foolishness to the effect of, "Well, had I known you were Black, I wouldn't have talked to you or tried to hook up."

 

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blo1988: I have been watching this thread for a while and am still stunned that anyone would think that gays hate women. Honestly, I don't know of anyone I have ever met who hates women.

 

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sammygirly: OMG!

Dee you're black?

Shoooooot

 

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wvalady1968: [quote author=sammygirly link=board=relationships;num=1061335009;start=60#74 date=09/30/03 at 16:52:29]OMG!

Dee you're black?

Shoooooot

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Krowax: This question is similar to "do straight guys hate other guys?" or "do straight women hate other women?".

 

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theos_bored: I'm gay and I don't hate women. Most of my friends are female.

 

[allan1015]

This is so dunb. Of course gay men don't hate women for the most part. You can love someone, male or female but not want to have sex with them. If your arguement is valid then any man that has sex with a woman secretly hates all other men. Please!!!

 

[Willy_the_Wonka]

I don't even fathom this concept. From my observation, being gay has only made my friendships with women stronger.

It also pisses HELL out of some straight guys. :tongue: