Do good bottoms make great tops?

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  1. TomCat84

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    In my extensive experience, this has mostly been the case. The best tops I've been with in the past have been otherwise exclusively bottom.

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    you need to learn to be a bottom in order to be a top... it's just the way it is. Otherwize you just don't know what you are doing... or what it feels like
     
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    I agree TOTALLY...Especially if you're really hung. Lots of "total" tops think it makes them less masculine if they bottom...however, bottoms have ALL the power. lol Without them...we'd all be jerking off or straight. :)
     
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    you are all talking out your bottoms
     
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    95% of the guys I fuck ignore their penises completely to focus on their asses. Urban myths notwithstanding, I can't imagine any of them being able to fuck their way out of a wet paper bag.

    If the topic is whether or not versatiles fuck better than non-versatile tops, then I'd be inclined to agree, at least in theory. Either role involves completely separate skill sets with precious few overlaps, and those who've mastered both are only to be lauded.

    FWIW, I have never met a non-versatile top who wouldn't really rather be versatile (myself included). Despite whatever they/we might tell a bottom, between ourselves an overwhelming truth comes out: we top because we simply cannot, ever, bottom without feeling violated. It's not because we're obsessed with our masculinity as much as getting fucked feels like getting raped. There's no pleasure in it, only pain and distress.
     
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    I agree. I would love to be versatile but I have tried and just can't get my mind around it.
     
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    Topping just does not do it for me. Tried it once and although it was nice, I prefer to get fucked.
     
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    your very right cause us bottoms know how everything feels from start to finish a lot of times "total tops" just think they can just slam it in there and seeing as we are bottoms it doesn't hurt.......WRONG!!!!!
     
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    Sometimes if the top just takes what he wants and uses me, it's kinda hot! :biggrin1:
     
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    You've had a lot of bad experiences with some really shitty tops.
     
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    Not in my experience. Some of the bottoms I've been with were quite content to remain passive bottoms. Taking an active role just wasn't part of their personality.
     
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    One really in a 4way I was fucking one guy and another just came up behind me a rammed it in totally killed my mood i was in
     
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    I'm sure it did.

    Though obviously I wasn't there, it sounds like he had a combination of illegal stimulants and Viagra. Or maybe he just watches too much porn and mistakes what he sees for an actual, real-time depiction of sex :rolleyes:

    Anyway, the number one complaint I hear from bottoms (conversationally) is that there aren't enough tops to go around; the number two complaint is that few are skilled enough to deliver a satisfactory fuck. Ultimately it's all about chemistry: what works in one situation with one individual can't be applied universally. An experienced, skillful top knows that.
     
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    Bbucko and I have had this conversation several times.

    I started as a total top and have become more versatile over time (to the point where I now consider myself completely versatile - under the right situations and with the right men).

    Learning how to bottom and enjoy those experiences totally made me a MUCH better top. I learned buttons and places (as a bottom) of which I was unaware as a strict top - I only knew when my (then) bottom BFs and FBs told me, and not much more.

    I admire my friends like Bbucko and others who can openly admit to wanting to be more versatile. A bd of mine always says (of chest-thumping total tops) : "They were is like a badge of honor. Why not a badge that says I am ignorant of the pleasures hidden within my body and refuse to find out?"

    Or as I say when someone asks, "Are you a top or a bottom?"

    "Yes, I am a top or a bottom. I'm FAR to greedy to do it one way."
     
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    What a delightful, wise comment!

     
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    I started out as a bottom. I had one relationship where I was the bottom; only. That didn't last long. I have fooled around with some guys who were only bottoms and it was okay. I had one bottom who I asked to fuck me; he was reluctant at first; but once he got into it, OMG.
    My current bf was a top; but I have helped become a great bottom.
    There is nothing better than flip fucking each other! Some times I get greedy and have him fuck me first and there have been times it was so intense I shot my load when he was fucking me.
    So now I top him first and then he tops me.
    so I guess yes, bottoms do make good tops and the other way around.
     
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    How true it is that there are not enough tops to go around. Maybe that's because we bottoms are so insatiable.

    I do have to say that some tops need a little education when it comes to satifying us. I finally quit on one top, because he just could not get it through his thick head that I wanted satisfaction from being fucked, every bit as much as he wanted to cum. He thought he could just walk in, let me suck him to full throttle, then jam it in me; no lube, no nothing but a hard fuck till he cums. Sure I prepare ahead with a well-lubed dildo, and by squirting plenty of lube up my hole. But this guy is huge and thick, which I love, but when he just jams in, I don't hurt inside, but he really kills me at the sphincter.

    If he were representative of all tops, I guess I would leave the game altogether. But I certainly have found satisfaction with some guys, only not enough of it.
     
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    Not sure on this one. I started out quite versatile in my youth, but got more and more typecast as a top the older I got. Still can totally enjoy bottoming once or twice a year, but want to top once or twice a week. Fortunately this is exactly what my life circumstances provide! Part of this is inherent inclination, as I always preferred topping by a slight margin. But most of it is feedback-- have been told many many times that I'm a terrific top, best they ever had, etc., whereas the praise for my performance as a bottom has been somewhat more muted/tepid. It became clear which was my strong suit; but I wonder if the luck of the draw had been different how much differently things might have turned out. I'd like to believe I'm a great top based on the praise of bottoms; but know I can never aspire to more than being a good bottom.
     
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    Sadly, I hear stories like this all the time from guys, and so much more so now than, say, twenty years ago. Again, I think that a lot of guys are getting completely unrealistic expectations regarding a bottom's capacity from porn; it's certainly not from any communication with actual bottoms.

    As a young man (17-23) I was very fortunate to have met some very patient and experienced older men (30-50) who showed me the ropes and taught me so much about what works, how and why: everything from tender lover-sex to fisting and toy play. Without such guidance I'm sure I'd have given up on sex a long time ago.
     
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    I'm a power bottom, and a horrible top!

    It could be because I'm just not into it, like I top and I'm so focused on staying hard in this guy that it's not about sex it's about focus!

    But I do think that ANY gay guy who's a "top" should be a bottom at least 15% of the time.

    Think of it as research!

    and any gay guy that considers himself "only top", is just not man enough to sleep with women! lol
     
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