Do men really normally have lots of opportunities to compare erections?

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I guess its the same things as hetero guys
When some girls take a bath (or spa / hot spring) together, we think they are playing naked and touch the boobies of other girls
But its only a wish or a fantasm, too bad for us it dosen't really happend in real life or well far from a majority :D

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With the difference being that I've never heard women say they think men do this, only other men. I've read here time and time again countless anecdotes about comparing, many arguments that would only hold water if the poster has seen other men erect. It has never struck me as probable that men see many erections in person in a context that would allow for comparison.
 

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Yeah I was talking about difference between gays guys and hetero one ;)

But then if lot of guys talk about it (I see in french forum too, there lot of men saying they compare in shower etc..) some girls might listen or read it and since its true
 

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Reading many of the older replies here is making me feel like a total pig or slut. There is sort of this undercurrent that "it might happen if you were invited to an orgy/threesome/gangbang, but how often does that happen?" Or "it just some gay fantasy that this could ever happen."

I'm old, kind of overweight, and not very pretty. But I do in fact get invited to an orgy, sex party, or whatever group sex event about once a week. I passed up two to go to a camping trip last weekend. There's a medium-sized one next Thursday (school night, I might pass), then a big one (expect 150+ guys) next Saturday, then it's the Folsom Fair weekend in San Francisco with multiple huge fuck parties (not to mention some exhibitionists at the fair itself), followed by another the Friday after I get back home...and then we get into the Fall play party season.

Granted, I do live near L.A., and travel frequently to places like San Francisco and Palm Springs, so maybe I have more opportunity than many, but I would think that in other communities the difference would be more in the size of the gatherings, or how far one must travel, than if they exist or not.

And it's true, I'm gay, which in some people's minds means I'm more likely to engage in such things. But I point out that the sexplay spaces where the big parties are held are often rented from heterosexual organizations, which have presumably created them for their own use. So, I've been at a gay orgy under a huge banner advertising the upcoming straight swinger's event, or some such thing, many times. One difference might be the degree of interaction at such events, gay vs. straight. At a gay event, it's not always impolite to make a side-by-side comparison, or hold another guy's cock to gauge the size, but I imagine at a hetero party it might be more like live porn, rather than "hands on," although I don't really think it has to be that way. If straight men can compliment each other on their muscles in the gym, why not cocks at the sex party? (And by the way, oftentimes it is considered damned rude to grab another guy's cock at a gay event without an invitation!)

There are also many regulars I see at such events, so I'm not a lone, depraved slut. But it is clear that many of the posters here have never attended such an event, and perhaps believe that anything other than a rare threesome must be fantasy, or the set at a porn shoot. And, for their lifestyle, that might as well be true. Some of us live in different ways, and experience different things. But so what.

If you have a quiet life, with intimate, private sex, you're probably happier than I am. If you you find and keep a partner for at least a while, you don't need to compare your cock with anyone else. There is a term for your cock size: "Just Right." It doesn't matter if in some sordid parallel existence there are places where such comparisons are constant.

If you do the sex party thing, you do get to compare with everyone else, whether you want to or not. But it's not about being biggest. I get turned down a lot, or at least have to be very persuasive, because people think I'm too thick, and/or fuck too rough. So I don't get some of the ass I want, but somebody with a very average cock does get it. Or sometimes I make somebody cum too quickly, and it's over. What's the fun in that? So "bigger is not always better" is one of the things you get to learn, besides how you compare.

Even in situations where they don't have to be (i.e. happily partnered, or at least getting enough) men tend to be competitive, and porn seems to have taught them (or at least tapped some primal feeling) that cock size is the defining factor in sexual competitiveness or whatever. I know (and have played with) quite a number of porn stars. And yes, some of those guys are packing serious meat. But it always looks a lot bigger on the screen than when you hold it in you hand. And that is a big part of the art of making porn- to make the camera show things to the best advantage, and then talk about it the way the camera shows it. Once after I was in a gangbang porn shoot, the guy I fucked tweeted that my cock was 10 inches in girth. Utter exaggeration, of course, but if it felt that way to him, and more importantly looked that way to the camera, why not? Well, maybe there's a reason why not. Half tongue in cheek, perhaps someone should start a "socially responsible" porn studio, that strives to seek a balance between titillation and making men feel insecure about themselves.

So porn isn't a good source of comparison. But honestly, if you want, there are plenty of opportunities for in-person comparison with your peers. You just need to seek them out. But it might be better to just be happy with who you are, and what you have.
 
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Reading many of the older replies here is making me feel like a total pig or slut. There is sort of this undercurrent that "it might happen if you were invited to an orgy/threesome/gangbang, but how often does that happen?" Or "it just some gay fantasy that this could ever happen."

I'm old, kind of overweight, and not very pretty. But I do in fact get invited to an orgy, sex party, or whatever group sex event about once a week. I passed up two to go to a camping trip last weekend. There's a medium-sized one next Thursday (school night, I might pass), then a big one (expect 150+ guys) next Saturday, then it's the Folsom Fair weekend in San Francisco with multiple huge fuck parties (not to mention some exhibitionists at the fair itself), followed by another the Friday after I get back home...and then we get into the Fall play party season.

Granted, I do live near L.A., and travel frequently to places like San Francisco and Palm Springs, so maybe I have more opportunity than many, but I would think that in other communities the difference would be more in the size of the gatherings, or how far one must travel, than if they exist or not.

And it's true, I'm gay, which in some people's minds means I'm more likely to engage in such things. But I point out that the sexplay spaces where the big parties are held are often rented from heterosexual organizations, which have presumably created them for their own use. So, I've been at a gay orgy under a huge banner advertising the upcoming straight swinger's event, or some such thing, many times. One difference might be the degree of interaction at such events, gay vs. straight. At a gay event, it's not always impolite to make a side-by-side comparison, or hold another guy's cock to gauge the size, but I imagine at a hetero party it might be more like live porn, rather than "hands on," although I don't really think it has to be that way. If straight men can compliment each other on their muscles in the gym, why not cocks at the sex party? (And by the way, oftentimes it is considered damned rude to grab another guy's cock at a gay event without an invitation!)

There are also many regulars I see at such events, so I'm not a lone, depraved slut. But it is clear that many of the posters here have never attended such an event, and perhaps believe that anything other than a rare threesome must be fantasy, or the set at a porn shoot. And, for their lifestyle, that might as well be true. Some of us live in different ways, and experience different things. But so what.

If you have a quiet life, with intimate, private sex, you're probably happier than I am. If you you find and keep a partner for at least a while, you don't need to compare your cock with anyone else. There is a term for your cock size: "Just Right." It doesn't matter if in some sordid parallel existence there are places where such comparisons are constant.

If you do the sex party thing, you do get to compare with everyone else, whether you want to or not. But it's not about being biggest. I get turned down a lot, or at least have to be very persuasive, because people think I'm too thick, and/or fuck too rough. So I don't get some of the ass I want, but somebody with a very average cock does get it. Or sometimes I make somebody cum too quickly, and it's over. What's the fun in that? So "bigger is not always better" is one of the things you get to learn, besides how you compare.

Even in situations where they don't have to be (i.e. happily partnered, or at least getting enough) men tend to be competitive, and porn seems to have taught them (or at least tapped some primal feeling) that cock size is the defining factor in sexual competitiveness or whatever. I know (and have played with) quite a number of porn stars. And yes, some of those guys are packing serious meat. But it always looks a lot bigger on the screen than when you hold it in you hand. And that is a big part of the art of making porn- to make the camera show things to the best advantage, and then talk about it the way the camera shows it. Once after I was in a gangbang porn shoot, the guy I fucked tweeted that my cock was 10 inches in girth. Utter exaggeration, of course, but if it felt that way to him, and more importantly looked that way to the camera, why not? Well, maybe there's a reason why not. Half tongue in cheek, perhaps someone should start a "socially responsible" porn studio, that strives to seek a balance between titillation and making men feel insecure about themselves.

So porn isn't a good source of comparison. But honestly, if you want, there are plenty of opportunities for in-person comparison with your peers. You just need to seek them out. But it might be better to just be happy with who you are, and what you have.
That was a very thoughtful and informative post. Thank you. I especially like your idea about a socially responsible porn company.

The thing is, I specifically asked about non-sexual situations, and included that porn doesn't count, for a couple of reasons. One, it levels the playing field, so to speak. Heterosexual men don't often have sex with other men in the room, even if they want to. It seems like setting up those MFM threesomes and finding sexual play spaces is just not something the average man gets done, even if he really wants to. And believe me, I've been to sex clubs, adult resorts, and they've had two things in common. They're often sausage fests (works for me!) and they are all close to major cities. However, there are lots of people who don't live in a major city, and can't afford to travel, or simply don't think of having a vacation oriented around sexual exploration. Because of this, I'd venture most straight men do not know how to get invited to and orgy. So that's one reason. Another reason is that I think it is pretty obvious that comparison is possible during a sexual encounter. So, I'm just not after that type of opportunity.

I became curious enough to ask because it is common knowledge that a man's flaccid size doesn't necessarily inform his erection. However, you read over and over all these anecdotes here where the point is that so-and-so's friends are all bigger/smaller/the same size he is. I just wonder, unless he's fucking them, or fucking people with them, how does he know? It's especially interesting to me because these (I guess they are) assumptions often seem to stress out the storyteller.

Anyway, thanks again. Do you have non-sexual opportunities to compare?
 

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However, you read over and over all these anecdotes here where the point is that so-and-so's friends are all bigger/smaller/the same size he is. I just wonder, unless he's fucking them, or fucking people with them, how does he know? It's especially interesting to me because these (I guess they are) assumptions often seem to stress out the storyteller.

Anyway, thanks again. Do you have non-sexual opportunities to compare?
well one of my friends he claimed he was small I believe him too lack of budge and if there is something it's not a whole lot maybe what amounts to 3-1/2 to 4 incher and maybe 4" around.. Pretty obvious that he was hard based on how uncomfortable he was.
 

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ever, you read over and over all these anecdotes here where the point is that so-and-so's friends are all bigger/smaller/the same size he is. I just wonder, unless he's fucking them, or fucking people with them, how does he know? It's especially interesting to me b
well one of my friends he claimed he was small I believe him too lack of budge and if there is something it's not a whole lot maybe what amounts to 3-1/2 to 4 incher and maybe 4" around.. Pretty obvious that he was hard based on how uncomfortable he was.
See? This is an anecdote where the teller hasn't even seen the guy's penis in any state! He's going based off of a bulge in pants.
 

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That was a very thoughtful and informative post. Thank you. I especially like your idea about a socially responsible porn company....

The thing is, I specifically asked about non-sexual situations, and included that porn doesn't count, for a couple of reasons. ....
I became curious enough to ask because it is common knowledge that a man's flaccid size doesn't necessarily inform his erection. ....
Anyway, thanks again. Do you have non-sexual opportunities to compare?

I hadn't really intended to to address your original question, but was just commenting on what I saw as an interesting dichotomy of sexual experiences reflected in some of the responses. But now you have me thinking...

It is true that flaccid size doesn't necessarily correlate with erect size. Indeed, some of the biggest-dicked guys I know seem to vanish when they are soft, at least as far as any bulge in their pants goes. But there is one correlation you can be sure of: If someone is large flaccid, they are at least that big erect. As some of my friends enjoy pointing out, I'm larger flaccid than many men are erect. Therefore, when one of those guys sees me in the gym locker room or shower, they know for sure that I am bigger than they are, but just don't know exactly how much, and I have no idea about them. So that is one completely non-sexual case where some comparison, although incomplete in detail, does occur, with results that definitively tell a guy that he is smaller, and someone else is larger.


There are medical cases where full-on erections come to be seen, in at least a one-way comparison. A while back, I decided I'd like to use trimix now and then (yes, I'm that age, so I'm allowed). I went to the doctor, who did some calculations, then administered a trial dose and left the room. A few minutes later, his assistant came into the room to see how things worked out. "Wow!" was all he said at first. So there is a completely non sexual case where one man gets to observe the full-bore erections of others (mine and all the other patients).

In another medical case, I had an injury that caused one of the lymph nodes in my groin to get blocked up for a while. In addition to some other swelling (edema), this caused my penis to "inflate" to its full erect size, although not rigidity, for days. During the time I was in the hospital there were both actual medical observations of this, as well as a steady stream of looky-loos who would conceal their ID badge and offer some bullshit excuse as to why they had to come into my room and "check" my condition. (The only honest one was the little old lady with the walker- she really was a compassionate care aide from my doctor's office legitimately checking up on me at my GP's request.)

Some of the conversations with the doctors were interesting. Before the urologist showed up and correctly diagnosed the situation, I was attended by a hematologist, who was convinced there must be a blood clot. So he sends me down to ultrasound to check the circulation. The ultrasound tech, who was also gay, rather enjoyed this, and told me that all looked good. But the doctor, who was barking up the wrong tree, would not believe this, and began asking me questions.

Dr: "Is your penis normally that LARGE?" Me: "Not when flaccid, but it's about like this when erect."
Dr: "But is your penis normally that THICK?" Me: "Yes, when it's erect."
Dr: "But is your penis..." Me (cutting him off) "Yes, I've got a big cock."

The poor tech was trying so hard not to explode laughing. But you could see the doctor was feeling insecure, trying to rationalize that my penis couldn't really be that size normally, even when erect.


Another example of one man seeing another with an erection happens in the case of exhibitionism. There are actually some venues where exhibiting your erection in a certain way is not illegal (or is at least tolerated by the police), nor considered inappropriate or creepy. Examples include the Dore/Folsom fairs in San Francisco, Southern Decadence in New Orleans, etc. (Ah, fond memories of ring toss with the strings of Mardi Gras beads.) As neither the exhibitionist nor the observer are intending to have sex, this could be taken as a non-sexual encounter. However, these events are so few, and so specialized, that this is probably not worth counting. And while exhibitionism exists everywhere, outside such special events, well, it's just gross.


But it starts to become more difficult to distinguish sexual and non-sexual situations in other venues. I often see guys with full erections in the gym locker room (I work out regularly). Sometimes these are guys who seem to confuse the gym with the sex club (i.e. they start jerking off in the shower or steamroom), so we will not count those. But some men do seem to get spontaneous and probably unwanted erections at times, unrelated to anything sexual around them. I remember one guy, with a bottom locker, who dropped his towel to reveal an almost throbbing (although rather thin) hard cock, then crouched down by the locker trying to conceal it as he dressed. Since I was an unintentional witness to this, thereafter he took great pains to always get a locker far from mine if he saw me. God only knows why he didn't just keep his towel on, and go watch the TV or something until things subsided. There are quite a few other guys who just seem to get hard when water hits them in the shower, but don't seem to be trying to do anything sexual, and get soft again as soon as they dry off. Maybe it's just how they clean their cock or foreskin? But of course anyone walking by the row of showers sees it all.

On another occasion, there was a guy dressing next to me, who was quite large flaccid. We both started to get hard as we dressed, and the reason clearly was seeing each other. But although the root cause was sexual response, the situation was not sexual-- we were honestly both just trying to get dressed and go for dinner, and after getting 80% hardons stuffed in our pants, we left without a word or second glance.
 

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See? This is an anecdote where the teller hasn't even seen the guy's penis in any state! He's going based off of a bulge in pants.
what am i going to do ask him to prove he has a small one?

Saying you have a small penis is social suicide.
 
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See? This is an anecdote where the teller hasn't even seen the guy's penis in any state! He's going based off of a bulge in pants.

No. He's accepting his friend's word - ie that he has a small penis. Only then does he refer to the size of his friend's bulge.

Would you have him demand proof?

[BTW - I agree that there is not necessarily a correlation between bulge and dick size. Some of us have huge balls; some of us are showers rather than growers; and some of us - from what I've read at other threads - might be sporting an "enhanced" package.]
 

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No. He's accepting his friend's word - ie that he has a small penis. Only then does he refer to the size of his friend's bulge.

Would you have him demand proof?

[BTW - I agree that there is not necessarily a correlation between bulge and dick size. Some of us have huge balls; some of us are showers rather than growers; and some of us - from what I've read at other threads - might be sporting an "enhanced" package.]
His friend told him he had a small dick. He then reports numbers to us. Numbers. For a dick he has never seen. According to his story, he wasn't given those numbers by his friend.

I'm not saying he should ask for proof. All I'm saying is we hear and read anecdotes about so-and-so's dick all the time, often with a comparison to the speaker's own cock, and it made me wonder if most men have lots of opportunities to see other men's cocks. U wonder, because without seeing, these contrived numbers are kind of pointless. Pointing out that in this particular example the storyteller has illustrated my point about this type of speculation is not the same thing as suggesting he should ask for proof. Please. Don't be ridiculous.

what am i going to do ask him to prove he has a small one?
See above.
 
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His friend told him he had a small dick. He then reports numbers to us. Numbers. For a dick he has never seen. According to his story, he wasn't given those numbers by his friend.

I'm not saying he should ask for proof. All I'm saying is we hear and read anecdotes about so-and-so's dick all the time, often with a comparison to the speaker's own cock, and it made me wonder if most men have lots of opportunities to see other men's cocks. U wonder, because without seeing, these contrived numbers are kind of pointless. Pointing out that in this particular example the storyteller has illustrated my point about this type of speculation is not the same thing as suggesting he should ask for proof. Please. Don't be ridiculous.

See above.
If he directly asked me wanting to compare I would.
He seems pretty curious as to what my size is though.
 
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I actually have no normal opportunities to compare, so I take affirmative action and create the opportunity, kinda artificial normal opportunity. "I need you to make yourself available to me so I can compare cock sizes . " it's not been very successful at all, and I'm sure it's due to my lousy skills in selecting the right people, so much for the Village People, sheesh, a cop, a Native American, a cowboy, all non compliant. Dammit.
 
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I actually have no normal opportunities to compare, so I take affirmative action and create the opportunity, kinda artificial normal opportunity. "I need you to make yourself available to me so I can compare cock sizes . " it's not been very successful at all, and I'm sure it's due to my lousy skills in selecting the right people, so much for the Village People, sheesh, a cop, a Native American, a cowboy, all non compliant. Dammit.
There should be a special section for "best of" posts. You'd have a lot of entries! Hilarious, as usual.
 
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For the OP, I've never been in a situation to compare erect sizes with other guys, nor do I wish to compare with other guys.[/QUOTE]
 

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As side from sharing a bath tub with cousins, many many many years ago. I cannot think I have ever compared my erect penis to another guys, at least in real life. But this is LPSG so i guess photo comment comparisons and on the odd occasion I join the fun in Video chat.

But if Miss A/E wants to set up a meet and greet of LPSG members this summer and is a BBQ ans prizes, I may be tempted :D
 

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As side from sharing a bath tub with cousins, many many many years ago. I cannot think I have ever compared my erect penis to another guys, at least in real life. But this is LPSG so i guess photo comment comparisons and on the odd occasion I join the fun in Video chat.

But if Miss A/E wants to set up a meet and greet of LPSG members this summer and is a BBQ ans prizes, I may be tempted :D
You know, I thought about the suggestion and rolled it around in my head. Someone who lives at a campsite like Julie in Naples or MrEdinMass would have to host. My privacy fence is 6' tall, but some of the neighbors have trampolines, and I've cultivated a reputation for being just a little more like my super-conservative, Christian neighbors than like the woman who throws wild nekkid shindigs out back. Then, there's also the problem of too many strangers knowing my precise location, and finding out that my pit bull is no kind of guard dog unless criminals fear doggy snuggles, and my puggle is all bark. Although, there is a little forest nearby, and no one really ever strays from the path...