Do mentally healthy gay men want to turn straight men?

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One of my givens is that healthy gay men are attracted only to other age appropriate gay men. They have no interest in straight men and certainly have zero interest in "turning" age inappropriate young men gay. When homophobes trumpet that fear, I say if the gay man is healthy, there is no reason why they can't be supervisorial over minor young men.

I have no interest in under age young girls, zero, and that has been my stance for gays. But based on the number of threads where gay men are asking about straight guys, I am getting uneasy with my stance. What is the truth?
 

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absolutely not.... homosexuality is not a cult.... why anyone would spend their time chasing after something that they can't have is beyond me.... and anyone who tries deserves what's coming to them....
 

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the whole straight guy thing for many gay men is a fantasy and a very hot one, im sure I could list numerous straight guys I lusted over at university or in the locker room, we don't so much as want to turn them gay we just dream one day they may slip on the Kinsey scale a little ;)

and as for underage kids I was a youth counsellor at my school and I was openly gay so I had numerous teenagers come to me thinking they were gay, and I would answer any questions truthfully and honestly, without judgement or accusations, except for one question, "matt, do YOU think I'm gay?" at which point id smile warmly and say "i'm afraid I don't have the answer, that is inside you!"

and that's coming from a mentally unhealthy gay guy :)
 

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There are many problems with how this question is being phrased:

1) Not all mentally healthy (by the psychiatric sense of the term) people are perfectly clear-minded. Many mentally healthy people have some form of delusions. I think a good deal of mentally healthy people suffer from delusions of getting someone to be attracted to them.

2) "Mentally healthy" is problematic also on the flip side of the coin. Many people who are psychiatrically disordered to some degree (I can even include myself in this) are not so out of their minds as to be preying upon minors or imagining that sexual orientation can be converted.

3) The association of the orientation and age issues has no basis. It's entirely possible for someone to have a thing for trying to convert heterosexual men but also have no interest in minors. There is no natural association of these two issues.

4) Chasing after (which is what most have been addressing here) is not the same as being interested in, language you used in your first post. One can be interested in heterosexual men while realizing that chasing after them is delusional and disrespectful.

5) Sometimes heterosexual men indeed become a sort of cultural fetish for the gay community, but sometimes it's simply a matter of being attracted to an individual preceding the issue of his orientation.

6) Being interested in certain heterosexual men on an individual basis while not chasing after them is perfectly natural.
 

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A healthy, well-adjusted gay man may be attracted to a straight man, may have a crush and wish he was gay, but that should be all. Obsessing over straight men and wanting to "turn" would be unhealthy

As for kids, clearly, an adult of any gender or orientation being into someone underage is clearly very unhealthy.
 

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A healthy, well-adjusted gay man may be attracted to a straight man, may have a crush and wish he was gay, but that should be all. Obsessing over straight men and wanting to "turn" would be unhealthy

Exactly - it's about having respect for someones boundaries, and respect for them as a fellow human being.
 

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I think for some gay men, this is a (fetish) concept. Some gay men find arousal and even sexual gratification in the concept of converting a straight man. . or playing with a straight man. . and possibly even having a romantic interest in a straight man.

the inherent flaw in logic, is that these men are (straight), and that means they are not interested in another man. I mean, perhaps friendship and buddies or "bro's", but not sexually.

In my own experience and that of other gay men who have (courted) straight men. . or have had interest in a man, only to find out his orientation is straight, I can say that it is a big waste of time.

Any longer, I adhere to respecting boundries and limits. Some men like to show off and do not mind who sees them (exhibitionists), But if I know a man's orientation is straight, then I know he has a boundry that I need to respect and not cross. . I mean yeah, I may pay a dude a compliment now and again, but its not like he will go home with me, and or fuck me.
 

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One gay man's view: I can admit... there are some hot men out in the world that are straight. Do I want to turn them gay? No.

I don't really waste time wanting people I cannot have. I most definitely don't hound straight men for dick--that is for damn certain.





 

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Any man who suddenly embarks on a trip down the Hershey Highway has wanted to do so for a long time. There's no "OMG, I've never wanted cock in my life but you're SOOOO alluring that I've just changed my mind!" Those who chase and perpetuate this myth give the rest of us a bad name. Religious zealots love to use this as an example of how evil we are. "Turning" someone is merely giving a man who was hungry for some cock or ass what he's always wanted.