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Do nice guys always finish last?

Discussion in 'Relationships, Discrimination, and Jealousy' started by exwhyzee, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. exwhyzee

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    Lots of studies and discussions have stated that nice guys often get the cold shoulder when it comes to women.
    Academic studies have reaffirmed that women prefer the bad boy archetype over the nice guy. A 2008 study at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces examined how college students perceived "dark" traits such as thrill-seeking behavior, deceitfulness and narcissism. The study found the female students preferred the males with these traits. CNN
    Whether it is the lack of tension in a relationship, or being boring, or even being called a doormat, many woman seem to like the nice guys as friends, but fall head over heels for the bad boys.

    But what about the gay world? Do men prefer a challenge as well? Do nice gay guys always finish last too...thrown overboard for the gay bad boys?

    What about the preferences of straight men? Do nice girls finish last?

    I'm sure we have a few nice guys and girls here...do you feel like you always get the boot when the bad guy/girl comes along? Will the nice folks ever get a break? Have you ever know a good guy/girl go bad?
     
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    im a nice guy. n i can concur with these statements.
     
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    I go for nice guys, a lot actually, but then I'm a bad boy I think
     
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    From Two and a half men, " nice guys finish alone in the shower"
     
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    That is strange, I'm SUPER nice and never had issues finding dates before I moved out of NY lol. Yes I was too nice to date certain people, they wouldn't give me the time of day. Then there were girls/guys that were considered "bad" that enjoyed my personality and we equaled each other out very well. My longest relationship was with a nice girl I met and it was great. I was never bored and had a good time. Don't take it to heart when someone tells you "you are too nice" stay what you are and someone worth having will find you. Unfortunately it seems those studies are true, but most people, not all, eventually grow up. You don't need that drama anyway. As for gay men, I NEVER had an issue finding a date, most seem to be looking for nice guys.
     
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    As a gross generalisation, I think girls at school go for the jock (sports captain etc), then at university they go through the anti-establishment phase (rock band, dope smoking, long haired hippie types), and then later when they want to settle they go for the stable (ie good job / money) guy who can provide eg lawyers/doctor/banker etc. This is often when the "nice guys" come to their fore...

    As for guys taste, probably a similar thing applies.. def you wanna date the nice girl and take her to meet the parents.. the one who will be a good mother etc.. but then we still all wanna fuck the bad girl ocassionally!!
     
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    Nice guy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    as I was just saying to wally, there's been a whole "seduction" industry that has grown up in the last 20 years basically teaching "average frustrated chumps" how to be the sort of manipulative asshole chicks dig. by all accounts it works...if all you want is casual sex with multiple partners.

    to answer your question. No. Not always. But they tend to.
     
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    Story of my life! I guess writing poetry, drinking vodka and not being into sports just isn't masculine enough for some girls!
     
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    Any such quotes are simply ignorant generalization. There are enough girls who prefer nice guys.
     
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    Nice guys finish last.

    So go out and get what you want.
     
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    Remember.

    "...first you get the money, then you get the power,THEN you get the woman."

    Now go get the money!
     
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    I finish last all the time. Its only polite......
     
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    I`m not that nice...I`m single though!
    Maybe just because i`m OBESE?:):):):)
     
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    ummmm...where?
     
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    so true,so true...so muthafuckin' TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    college students? pft!

    sorry but they don't count as women yet.
    those innocent greenhorns aren't representative of womankind.
    that bad boy shit is something smart women grow out of.

    flawed study. obviously.
    everyone is stupid when they're young. it's what being young is all about. you go out, enjoy lots of stupid mistakes, get smart and grow up.
     
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    ^^^frickin' adorable!
     
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    when? after menopause?
     
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    I consider myself to be 'the nice guy' type and I always feel as though I finish last; relationships and the dating world especially. I seem to get passed over all the time. Could just be because I'm a bottom or whatever, but it seems that when I'm genuinely nice to a guys (remembering his birthday, taking him out of special occasions, buying him presents and being considerate), they never stick around.
    It's only when I'm a complete dick to guys that they pay attention to me.
    I personally don't have a preference either way. Good guy. Bad boy. Doesn't matter to me, but the 'bad boy' types do seem to have their own special charm at times. Bad boys play head games, they make you work for their attention...dark, moody, brooding and the mysterious act can go a long way at times.
     
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    ...and just how bad are you? :wink:

    In the meantime I can continue my doormat services.

    Yes, but you have a huge wang. :cool:

    I knew that was coming when I wrote the OP...I just didn't know from whom! Is that the correct use of the word "whom"? Fuck it, I'm not being a nice guy anymore...who the hell cares if its right! Grrrr. :tongue:

    I won't disagree...but why the attraction to assholes in the first place? What's it about a bad boy that is so alluring?
     
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    twat.
    i've been badder than any boy i ever dated.
     
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    i can't answer that one. the only slightly bad boys i've dated were pretending to be nice guys and fooling most people. i never got the attraction in some swaggering ego...unless it was my own, obviously.
     
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    yeah and you have contempt for all of them!

    including your current one. (assuming you haven't dumped him yet)
     
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    not true.
    i've no contempt for him at all. he's a doll.
    most of them were.
    i've had bloody good taste in men.

    i just get bored & irritated easily.
     
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    oh you sweet talker you.
     
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    Some women don't grow out of it. The women with emotional or character flaws didn't get the message that bad boys are nothing but trouble.

    In fact if a woman wants a bad boy, I consider that a major red flag to avoid her.
     
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    I'm a cunt. Selfish, secretive, cold, bitter, demanding, self destructive, hedonistic, passive aggressive/aggressive aggressive, vengeful, misanthropistic, unreliable, manipulative, exploitative. The list goes on.

    Don't ask me to enumerate all the dreadful things I've done over the years it would get boring. :tongue:

    I'm honest about all of this, especially so with people I have relationships with, and as the years pass I think I'm getting less cuntish, mostly because I can't be bothered to deal with the fallout and would rather have a quiet life, and because I just don't want to end up with the chaotic mess some of my family call a life, and because I have a sense of humour and simply cannot take myself too seriously.

    I have great traits too, plenty of em :redface: but I have a big wide streak of cunt which seems to have attracted some people of the years, though admittedly my healthiest most rewarding relationships have been with people who were attracted to me for the whole package, and not just the nasty.
     
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    I have dated a few bad boys (when I was young) and lots of nice boys. I prefer the nice boys!

    There was recently a cracked.com article on the same subject:

    6 Things Men Do To Get Laid That Science Says Turn Women Off | Cracked.com

    It's a hilarious article, but I don't know if it's true. It's not true with me. TheBoyfriend violated 3 out of the 6 "Dont's" and I've never wanted anyone as badly as I wanted him. Maybe I'm different than other women?
     
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    rings true to me. there are links to BS academic psychology studies. and it mentions THE GAME by Neil Strauss.

    some days i understand arranged marriages.
     
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    I've asked this to many women, and the most common reply I seem to get is that they think they can change them from being such. I dunno though, I'm still baffled how a factor like that can make a woman attracted to a jerk in the first place.
     
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