Do Straight Men Let Another Man Give Them Blowjobs?

[deleted15807]

Why should you accept that in this case?

Because there is still a large social stigma against being anything other than completely heterosexual.

If we lived in a society without that, then bisexual men could identify themselves as heterosexual, or llamas for all I care.

There is no evidence that a man who lets another man blow him (just since this is the thread title) who choses not to say he is bi or gay will suffer any social stigma if he does. You are inserting your belief in here. There is no evidence that is the reason why he choses not to.

Researchers don't call these men bisexual or homosexual they simply call them men who have sex with men (MSM). The term MSM is often used in medical literature and social research to describe such men as a group for research studies without considering issues of self-identification. Can I stress "self-identification"? In modern social studies of sexuality, distinctions have been made among sexual identities, desires, and behaviors. Understanding that these dimensions of sexuality do not always travel together in predictable ways was one impetus for introducing the term MSM. What I continue to see here is a thinking of sexuality in flat behavioral terms which is simply erroneous. And no researcher or scientist or sexuality expert would do it.

 

[Oxnard]

There is no evidence that a man who lets another man blow him (just since this is the thread title) who choses not to say he is bi or gay will suffer any social stigma if he does. You are inserting your belief in here. There is no evidence that is the reason why he choses not to.

Researchers don't call these men bisexual or homosexual they simply call them men who have sex with men (MSM). The term MSM is often used in medical literature and social research to describe such men as a group for research studies without considering issues of self-identification. Can I stress "self-identification"? In modern social studies of sexuality, distinctions have been made among sexual identities, desires, and behaviors. Understanding that these dimensions of sexuality do not always travel together in predictable ways was one impetus for introducing the term MSM. What I continue to see here is a thinking of sexuality in flat behavioral terms which is simply erroneous. And no researcher or scientist or sexuality expert would do it.

There likeliest reason they want to be called straight instead of bisexual is the social stigma associated with being anything other than straight. Admitting to being bisexual can still have very serious social consequences, especially in parts of America with high religiosity. People can lose their jobs, get beat up, etc.

And I don't think I am in any way being restrictive in definitions. I acknowledge that bisexuality covers a very wide spectrum.

If you want to use the phrase "men who have sex with men" instead of bisexual/homosexuality, then knock yourself out, but the phrase sounds very cumbersome to me.

Correct if it I'm wrong, but it seems likely to me that researchers use the term MSM simply because it is less cumbersome than "bisexual and homosexual males." If they are talking about something that involves male-male sex, then distinguishing between bisexuals and homosexuals does not make sense. That does not mean it is reasonable to call men who have sex with other men straight.

 

[Hatt_101]

I was just about to say. Hatt, why do you have pictures public for all to see on this site? I don't, and I almost never receive any sexual offers from other members.

half are public the rest for people im following. for the the public ones are just for show and for the women that arnt following me
/ me following then , can see them. also i cant claim to have a big dick and not prove it

 

[Hatt_101]

Hatt, basically every day you walk into The Large Penis Club with your cock hanging out and the place is full of gay/bi men who are interested in cock. Why would you find their attention annoying?

its not the attention annoying its the asking my to do something that i clearly have no interest in and then constantly asking over and over again. i already explained that

 

[Hatt_101]

Not sure if it's fetish or fantasy, I think they look for straight men so there won't be an attraction and it will be a once in a while occurence that happens on their terms. A gay guy might constantly pester one for can time while a straight guy probably wouldn't especially a married straight guy. Or perhaps one of them is divorced and is looking for a way to get off.

by looking at some of the thread titles when you click new posts you can see it is most definitely a fetish, that; is in the cams/porn and fictional stories sections, like novice said, it gives some sense of challenge. if they truly wanted a guy to fool around with no strings attached im sure they could just ask and im sure there are gay/ bi guys that would be into that.

when a straight guy want to just hook up with a girl and not worry about possible relationship she he doesnt go after a lesbian, because that just wouldnt make any sense. you tell the person what you are looking for and hopefully they understand. if not find someone else.

 

[deleted15807]

There likeliest reason they want to be called straight instead of bisexual is the social stigma associated with being anything other than straight. Admitting to being bisexual can still have very serious social consequences, especially in parts of America with high religiosity.

"Admitting" is rather accusatory and really has no place in discussing sexual orientation. You are suggesting a.) person knows their orientation and b.) is actively trying to hide it. There is no evidence behind that statement. This seems to be the "go to" reason in this "outing" exercise that keeps occuring. And let's be honest that is what it is.

Many reasons people have sex and when you look at the data it's easy to see how in certain situations orientation may not necessarily play a role.

psychcentral.com: 237 Reasons to Have Sex/

Correct if it I'm wrong, but it seems likely to me that researchers use the term MSM simply because it is less cumbersome than "bisexual and homosexual males." If they are talking about something that involves male-male sex, then distinguishing between bisexuals and homosexuals does not make sense. That does not mean it is reasonable to call men who have sex with other men straight.

No they use the term so they can study those individuals that have sex with same sex partners without calling them bisexual or homosexual because these individuals do not self-identity(there's that term again) as bisexual or homosexual.

 

[BIGBULL29]

its not the attention annoying its the asking my to do something that i clearly have no interest in and then constantly asking over and over again. i already explained that

There's a lot more than that going on.

You're obsessed with this topic. You need therapy.

If you are comfortable being 131% straight, what gives?

I"m glad you stopped looking at my gallery.

 

[328982]

its not the attention annoying its the asking my to do something that i clearly have no interest in and then constantly asking over and over again. i already explained that

Who has asked you to do anything?

 

[Oxnard]

"Admitting" is rather accusatory and really has no place in discussing sexual orientation. You are suggesting a.) person knows their orientation and b.) is actively trying to hide it. There is no evidence behind that statement. This seems to be the "go to" reason in this "outing" exercise that keeps occuring. And let's be honest that is what it is.

Many reasons people have sex and when you look at the data it's easy to see how in certain situations orientation may not necessarily play a role.

psychcentral.com: 237 Reasons to Have Sex/



No they use the term so they can study those individuals that have sex with same sex partners without calling them bisexual or homosexual because these individuals do not self-identity(there's that term again) as bisexual or homosexual.

False dichotomy. We humans are more than capable of deceiving ourselves, particularly on matters such as this.

 

[328982]

I cannot speak for him.

Up until very recently, anything other than heterosexuality was regarded as something shameful by society, so it's possible that he, myself, and many others see it as something shameful on some subconscious level.

I don't think I am, but I also know that with this type of bias it is possible to have biases that one is not consciously aware of.

Still, for me at least, this is strictly a matter of language and the meaning of words. People who are mostly straight and just slightly bisexual have nothing to be ashamed of, but I still think that many such people try to define themselves as entirely straight because of lingering social attitudes such as what I was talking about above. On some level, they still regard even a tiny amount of homosexuality as something shameful and want to be identified as completely heterosexual.

What about the many, many gay people who've dabbled with the opposite sex but still identify themselves as gay. By your definition they must be bisexual and not admitting it. But why? Not sure I buy the social stigma argument here. Maybe it's more about which group you identify with and want to be part of. There is perhaps some distrust of bisexuals among some 'pure' gays but I've not heard anyone say you can't by definition be gay if you have any interest in or experience of straight sex. Surely it's not that exclusive?

 

[BIGBULL29]

And the few gay men who watch lesbian porn? What are they? They do exist.

The only person who should be interested in your sexual orientation is the person you're having sex with.

 

[Oxnard]

What about the many, many gay people who've dabbled with the opposite sex but still identify themselves as gay. By your definition they must be bisexual and not admitting it. But why? Not sure I buy the social stigma argument here. Maybe it's more about which group you identify with and want to be part of. There is perhaps some distrust of bisexuals among some 'pure' gays but I've not heard anyone say you can't by definition be gay if you have any interest in or experience of straight sex. Surely it's not that exclusive?

There isn't a social stigma operating in that direction.

 

[328982]

There isn't a social stigma operating in that direction.

OK, so why do they identify as gay rather than bisexual?

 

[deleted15807]

False dichotomy. We humans are more than capable of deceiving ourselves, particularly on matters such as this.

However you choose to frame it's not your call. And I have yet to hear a compelling reason why it is.

 

[Oxnard]

OK, so why do they identify as gay rather than bisexual?

It doesn't matter. There cannot be a social stigma driving their identification between gay and bi, so they can self identify as daffodils for all I care.

 

[Oxnard]

However you choose to frame it's not your call. And I have yet to hear a compelling reason why it is.

Many white Southerners refuse to admit that they have African ancestors and will do incredibly ugly things in order to see themselves as completely white. Should I also respect their self identification?

 

[Hatt_101]

Who has asked you to do anything?

Plenty of people can't name all right now my inbox is 58 pages long and near half of those were guys asking to cam, for pictures, etc. Even though it says in my signature I don't cam with men.

And like i said before For some it's mainly because they didn't read my profile and once I say I'm not interested it's good everything goes on regularly but others then persist or ask why not.

 

[BIGBULL29]

Hatt 101, this will be the last time I address you on here (he's the only person to ever put me on ignore on LPSG in the past 10 years, which is very telling, considering I never did anything but disagree on the forums). And then he looks at my gallery for months and then stops once I bring it to everyone's attention.

If I loved pussy as much as you, I'd be spending all my time on sites with pretty pussy and big titties. There are so many sites that feature naked women.

You are not even attracted to your own dick, as you say, and also find men physically repulsive. So then, why are you on a BIG DICK site? Yes, are you another one reading Playgirl (in your case) for the articles?

Go to Playboy ....that's where the nude ladies are.

Why a big dick site at every inch of the day (no pun intended)??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

Only you care about your sexual identity. I sure the hell don't give a damn what you like. You can identify as straight as an arrow but your life on LPSG has shown otherwise.

Best of luck on getting your sexuality sorted.

Peace and good-bye.

 

[328982]

It doesn't matter. There cannot be a social stigma driving their identification between gay and bi, so they can self identify as daffodils for all I care.

I don't ask you to care, just to be logical and open-minded. There can be a social stigma driving gay/bi identification if your chosen social group is gay and if gays disapprove of bisexuality. (You think stigma doesn't operate in that direction, but that's like assuming racism only flows one way.) However, in my experience, most gays are happy to embrace others as gay, if that's how they see themselves, regardless of any slight bisexual leanings. OK, so you don't really care about distinctions between gay and bi. That says a lot already about your position. What clearly is important to you, though, is to make a distinction between straight and non-straight. How easily your liberal veneer cracks under slight pressure.

 

[328982]

Plenty of people can't name all right now my inbox is 58 pages long and near half of those were guys asking to cam, for pictures, etc. Even though it says in my signature I don't cam with men.

And like i said before For some it's mainly because they didn't read my profile and once I say I'm not interested it's good everything goes on regularly but others then persist or ask why not.

Like I say, if you're bothered by male attention maybe don't come onto a site full of gay/bi men with your cock on public display.