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Crimsonlurker wasn't banned because of this thread, was he?
Crimsonlurker wasn't banned because of this thread, was he?
if you let a man suck you then you are bi
An honest answer, i I ever heard one
I kinda find labels limited - Gay and Bisexual. I rather like the use of MSM - Men who have Sex with Men. Now the distinction is on the basis of whether we are looking at it from Emotional point of view or just Sexual point of view. I believe being Gay or Bisexual is a lot about who emotionally fulfills you as a companion. Sex is a brain game, so emotions then become sexual too.
Some things are just sexual. And then MSMis a better term for men who got involved with other men just once or more.
And one's sexuality is what you accept it to be, others cannot force it on you. So even If I want to think you are Gay, but you don't identify as one, really you are not Gay. And this identification is not about what you say to others, but what you feel deep within
So, IDENTIFYING as "straight"... well PLENTY of non-straight people do.
Hypothetically?Go live in a small town and hold your gay lover's hand everywhere you go. Come back and tell me how that all went down for ya?
I think a significant percentage of straight guys would. I used to not accept the fluidity of sexuality that my brother was always talking about. I used to think there is straight, gay and bisexual (50/50). My brother identifies as gay but has had sex a bunch of times with women. So it stands to reason some straight guys will allow a guy to suck him off. a measurable chunk will in my experience. And they identify as straight.No, only bisexual and closeted gay men will allow that.
Not directly, no. We don't discuss these things, because they often involve privacy. However, to be as transparent as possible, posts in this thread contributed to identifying ban-able issues.Crimsonlurker wasn't banned because of this thread, was he?
Hypothetically?
Anyways, things aren't what they were 25 years ago.
... PS: no bf, not gay.
So many people are so hung up about labelling others (as well as ourselves). He's homosexual, she's bisexual... These terms are relatively recent, but they should be retired. We are all simply sexual; nothing more, nothing less. I, personally, identify as gay and it's more about living than about sex. A straight man can have full-on sex with hundreds of guys and still identify as straight: Just like a woman can have sex with a man, have children and still identify as lesbian. Acts of sex have little to do with who we are.
True enough.Your identifying not as gay makes you non-sympathetic to the minority suffering.
Gays have made tremendous progress - but they still have a long road ahead of them.
When gay men can be affectionate with their partners everywhere they go without fear of retaliation, only then can the community say that they've "made it."
True enough.
Sad that our society (well, most straight men) would encourage lesbians in action'want to participate, but, not vice versa. Got a LOT of double, and triple standards
You get a lot of guys EXPECT women perform gay acts, yet, would not do so themselves."A lot of double and triple standards...."
^ You made me laugh there.
I like lesbian porn, but I don't encourage women to like women when they don't. Men are surely not encouraged to french kiss another dude (well, a woman who like gay male porn might lol)
You get a lot of guys EXPECT women perform gay acts, yet, would not do so themselves.
Another situation would be a straight couple encouraging heavy "lesbian" kissing/play on public transportation, yet shitting on a gay male couple for a peck on the cheek.
Same straight couple starts necking, they're told to get a room, yet, regular kiss on the cheek/peck is ok. Lesbian couple... encouraged.
I see 3 levels of standard there. So, yes, it was done to make people laugh a bit, but, it was also serious.
Well, that is pretty ridiculous. He was not equating homosexuality with beastiality. He even saidNot directly, no. We don't discuss these things, because they often involve privacy. However, to be as transparent as possible, posts in this thread contributed to identifying ban-able issues.
Seriously, the paedo is still here, the incest guy is still here, and so is the misogynist hate speech one.Anyway, i did not equate homosexuality with having sex with animals.
"No answer!", came the stern reply.Well, that is pretty ridiculous. He was not equating homosexuality with beastiality. He even said
Seriously, the paedo is still here, the incest guy is still here, and so is the misogynist hate speech one.
It's clear that "sexual orientation" is informed by cultural norms and the material conditions of society, rather than it being this absolute and objective and unchangeable thing you're trying to argue that it is.
Keep in mind though, i and many many others have consistently said over and over again to each an ever new person entering this "discussion" that people get curious. Happens all the time. And it's no big deal. Problems come in when they are consistently "curious" but still want and need the label of straight to hide behind.