do women take a big cock for granted nowdays?

[sbat]

yeah, and see i think this is where there is a fundamental divide between men and women that is based primarily on our experience of sex. i read "not giving up a spot orgasms" and immediately see that as shallow considering that g-spot and clitoral orgasms would still exist. but how do i know? i've never had an a spot orgasm or any female orgasm, i don't know what they feel like, i don't know what a female orgasm in general feels like. i don't think it is something that can be explained. when i read descriptions of it by females here or in works of fiction elsewhere it doesn't sound that similar to male orgasms quite frankly. when a girl has one with me, i have no idea what it feels like for her.

as a man there are many variables that make sex more or less enjoyable to me. intensity of orgasm is almost completely dependant on three factors though. the first is how long it has been since my last orgasm and that has nothing to do with the girl. the second is how turned on i am by the woman i'm with. the last however somewhat contradicts the second, because my orgasms become more intense if ive been banging for a long time. a girl who im real turned on by might be unable to keep me from orgasm before the 45 minute mark after which time the orgasms are almost alway real intense. so basically i need a girl who im really attractive to and have been having sex with for awhile so im not too excited, or i need a girl i don't find incredibly attractive, but am kind of turned on by. this post has mostly been pointless but whatever, proceed.

So what you're saying is that for you, personality compatibility and companionship are paramount. I respect that.

People are probably reacting to the shallow tag, or the fact that you would write someone off for having strong physical preferences. I would say that the term is a mischaracterization because the desire for symmetry and certain hip/waist proportions is very likely hardwired in our brains - I would say that instead of shallow, it's something very fundamental to human nature.

I can't speak about the orgasm thing, but I have never had the desire for sex - even when there was personal compatibility - with a girl that did not have a big butt, tiny waist, and a cute face. You can't really date someone if you don't desire sex with them. It doesn't really work.

 

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

maybe my problem is i desire sex from most women of a certain age. i would reject a girl if she let it be known that she had physical specifications and was cruel about it, even if i fit them.

 

[B_subgirrl]

Oh gosh, I would never be cruel about it, or even obvious. And my specifications aren't even that specific. I've had sex with men with below average penises, because I would never want to hurt them by rejecting them on that basis. They just wouldn't work for me in a LTR.

 

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

im just want to point out im not referring to anyone specifically, just sort of working out my thoughts on the matter

 

[Jillang]

I just think guys are way more concerned and selfconscious about it. They always ask about it and always talk about it. I'm not saying girls never do but it's not a big part of the conversation, more of a joke or side note.

 

[GogMegog]

Why would a girl in a porn be shocked by anyone's penis unless it's her first porn or she gets someone who is amazingly hung? I would think an average LARGE sized cock wouldn't make a porn star blink. That's just my opinion of course since I'm not a porn star. I don't think I would ever take a large cock for granted.

Yes, Me too look closely the porn girls that either they are really screaming, moaning or just to show that they are being ponded. And really they just show this, otherwise their size is larger then the dick above them.

Its a dream of men to become more larger to surprise the ladies.
And in return they show that they are surprised!!!

 

[sbat]

I just think guys are way more concerned and selfconscious about it. They always ask about it and always talk about it. I'm not saying girls never do but it's not a big part of the conversation, more of a joke or side note.

That certainly changes once a woman gets into her late 20's and early 30's, wants to get married/have kids, but is single. Then they become extremely sensitive about shortcomings in that area.

Is this the general age range you're talking about, Dude?

 

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

Im not sure what your question is. I'm 27 for the record. Are you saying that in my experience penis size starts mattering more as you get older are thinking of starting a family? My experience would suggest the opposite of that. Maybe not with penis size but certainly with the physical characteristics that are seen by the general public.

 

[sbat]

Im not sure what your question is. I'm 27 for the record. Are you saying that in my experience penis size starts mattering more as you get older are thinking of starting a family? My experience would suggest the opposite of that. Maybe not with penis size but certainly with the physical characteristics that are seen by the general public.

You mentioned a general age range of women that you're looking at dating. I figured, based on your comments, that you were looking at women in the late 20's early 30's.

The part before the question was a response to the girl that said girls aren't so self-conscious about rejection based on appearance as guys - I was saying that, assuming she's right, women become more conscious if they are still single by a certain age - the age corresponding to the range that you target.

Sorry if its a bit convoluted.

 

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

i look at girls from generally 22 or so to about 38, althought i make exceptions on either sid eof those bookends

 

[Jillang]

That certainly changes once a woman gets into her late 20's and early 30's, wants to get married/have kids, but is single. Then they become extremely sensitive about shortcomings in that area.

Is this the general age range you're talking about, Dude?

Dude?....lol.....I'm not sure what your talking about but my point is guys are more concerned about it. I think girls just view a guys "size" as a small part of the total relationship. It is like being tall, short, hairy, blonde, balding, big ears......whatever.

 

[sbat]

Dude?....lol.....I'm not sure what your talking about but my point is guys are more concerned about it. I think girls just view a guys "size" as a small part of the total relationship. It is like being tall, short, hairy, blonde, balding, big ears......whatever.

Dude as in DudeofDestiny

 

[D_Reuben Stallpisser]

agree to disagree. it is a little different being a man, all we really need is friction and a warm hole, and i will wholly admit that; but in general if specific physical attributes are deal breakers in your relationships, i think that is a bit shallow. obviously this is more complicated than a message board post can really explore. if i see a woman in public and i am not attracted to her - i just don't approach her. now if there is a woman i meet that isnt really attractive to me but we get on great she will rise in my eyes into a person i find genuinely attractive and i would be interested. a man is different because i well built handsome guy you feel really attracted to in a bar might not be packing once youget his pants off and retroactively sour you on him. that said if it was his only shortcoming, pardon the pun, and you weren't a special case that needs a penis over 8 to feel anything, id think it would be shallow to kick him out.
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I agree in principal with what you're saying, and I'd love to be able to say honestly that physical factors don't matter. In practice, I guess I have to plead guilty to being shallow. Women to whom I would not normally be attracted do become more attractive when I get to know them, but there are still many that I would not enter into a long term relationship with because of physical factors. I guess what I'm saying is there are limits to what is acceptable. I could not have a sexual relationship with a woman who is as flat-chested as a man. I know that's shallow, but it's just a complete turnoff for me. A woman doesn't have to have D cups to turn me on, but she has to have SOMETHING. And while I have had sex with some pretty large women, there's a limit to that, too. I'm not going to be attracted to the circus fat lady. Or the bearded lady. It ain't gonna happen.

I applaud the ladies here who admit that they prefer large penises. I think women are conditioned to tell guys that size doesn't matter, but I think that's a lie that was made up to make small guys feel better. Most women get so used to repeating it, they say the same thing to guys who are above average. The best way to tell it's a lie is to watch their face light up when you pull out your cock and it's bigger than they ever hoped or expected. You can also try this (guys who are hung, anyway): If a woman you're in a relationship with says size doesn't matter, ask her, "What if I only had five inches?" I guarantee there will be a stumble before she answers.

 

[HiddenLacey]

^^^
I haven't been here that long, but I do not recall any of the female members saying that they preferred a large penis? There is a whole size selection in "large"

 

[D_Rosalind Mussell]

I agree in principal with what you're saying, and I'd love to be able to say honestly that physical factors don't matter. In practice, I guess I have to plead guilty to being shallow. Women to whom I would not normally be attracted do become more attractive when I get to know them, but there are still many that I would not enter into a long term relationship with because of physical factors. I guess what I'm saying is there are limits to what is acceptable. I could not have a sexual relationship with a woman who is as flat-chested as a man. I know that's shallow, but it's just a complete turnoff for me. A woman doesn't have to have D cups to turn me on, but she has to have SOMETHING. And while I have had sex with some pretty large women, there's a limit to that, too. I'm not going to be attracted to the circus fat lady. Or the bearded lady. It ain't gonna happen.

I applaud the ladies here who admit that they prefer large penises. I think women are conditioned to tell guys that size doesn't matter, but I think that's a lie that was made up to make small guys feel better. Most women get so used to repeating it, they say the same thing to guys who are above average. The best way to tell it's a lie is to watch their face light up when you pull out your cock and it's bigger than they ever hoped or expected. You can also try this (guys who are hung, anyway): If a woman you're in a relationship with says size doesn't matter, ask her, "What if I only had five inches?" I guarantee there will be a stumble before she answers.

If I may, I'd like to bullet point some of my thoughts, just to keep this post from being completely disjointed:

- I have to wonder how young you are. I find that it is common for younger people to be less forgiving in the physical appearance department. Age is the ultimate equalizer and we all go south eventually. I hope you never have to be on the receiving end of such severe judgment.

-Size does matter, but I do believe it is relative. While I do think all women (including myself) are fascinated by big cocks (hence, their face lighting up), there is a certain reality to the mechanics. I know for a fact that I can't take any bigger than 8x5 and I know I'm not alone. I've had enough sex partners to know that there are men with big cocks that couldn't use them if their life depended on it and there are men with 5 inchers that can fuck so well that women have to be peeled off the ceiling after the experience. Size (or lack thereof) will never be an excuse for being a lazy, inattentive lover and that will always be the deciding factor in the long run. So I'm sorry to say that having a big dick is not a fail safe in the bedroom or life in general.

-Finally, I applaud your honesty. I do believe that your attitude will change eventually, though. As we grow and change, so does our ideas about beauty. A breast cancer survivor scarred by her masectomy is just as beautiful as a woman with youthful, healthy breasts...maybe even more so. There's something to be said for battle scars.

 

[D_Reuben Stallpisser]

^^^
I haven't been here that long, but I do not recall any of the female members saying that they preferred a large penis? There is a whole size selection in "large"

There were several earlier in the thread. You might have missed them.

 

[HiddenLacey]

If I may, I'd like to bullet point some of my thoughts, just to keep this post from being completely disjointed:

- I have to wonder how young you are. I find that it is common for younger people to be less forgiving in the physical appearance department. Age is the ultimate equalizer and we all go south eventually. I hope you never have to be on the receiving end of such severe judgment.

-Size does matter, but I do believe it is relative. While I do think all women (including myself) are fascinated by big cocks (hence, their face lighting up), there is a certain reality to the mechanics. I know for a fact that I can't take any bigger than 8x5 and I know I'm not alone. I've had enough sex partners to know that there are men with big cocks that couldn't use them if their life depended on it and there are men with 5 inchers that can fuck so well that women have to be peeled off the ceiling after the experience. Size (or lack thereof) will never be an excuse for being a lazy, inattentive lover and that will always be the deciding factor in the long run. So I'm sorry to say that having a big dick is not a fail safe in the bedroom or life in general.

-Finally, I applaud your honesty. I do believe that your attitude will change eventually, though. As we grow and change, so does our ideas about beauty. A breast cancer survivored scarred by her masectomy is just as beautiful as a woman with youthful, healthy breasts...maybe even more so. There's something to be said for battle scars.

You are a very beautiful person

Size does matter... but it matters more that we receive attention and love from our partners. I could be just as happy with a smaller guy that gave me screaming orgasms versus a larger guy would took forever to cum and generally hurt me because of his size everytime. I have absolutely no problem saying I'm fascinated by some of what I see here, but this is just the internet and IRL the cock comes after the man.

And what you said about battle scars is 100% true. It's called life, I would rather my partner not be perfect, I would rather know they have lived.

 

[B_subgirrl]

^^^
I haven't been here that long, but I do not recall any of the female members saying that they preferred a large penis? There is a whole size selection in "large"

Actually, I think I might have used that term or a similar one. Just to clarify, when I say large or largish or something similar, I mean over 7 inches. That's the size it needs to be to hit my a spot. A little larger is even nicer though :smile:

 

[sbat]

BBW - I don't think it's strictly an age thing, when it comes to unforgiving requirements. I think it's an options thing. People in higher demand can afford to be pickier. It's just that both men and women tend to get less attractive as they age as well as more fearful of lonliness. So their attractive value drops and the fear of not having that desired companionship becomes more real, and that drives a lowering of standards.

If I may, I'd like to bullet point some of my thoughts, just to keep this post from being completely disjointed:

- I have to wonder how young you are. I find that it is common for younger people to be less forgiving in the physical appearance department. Age is the ultimate equalizer and we all go south eventually. I hope you never have to be on the receiving end of such severe judgment.

-Size does matter, but I do believe it is relative. While I do think all women (including myself) are fascinated by big cocks (hence, their face lighting up), there is a certain reality to the mechanics. I know for a fact that I can't take any bigger than 8x5 and I know I'm not alone. I've had enough sex partners to know that there are men with big cocks that couldn't use them if their life depended on it and there are men with 5 inchers that can fuck so well that women have to be peeled off the ceiling after the experience. Size (or lack thereof) will never be an excuse for being a lazy, inattentive lover and that will always be the deciding factor in the long run. So I'm sorry to say that having a big dick is not a fail safe in the bedroom or life in general.

The point here is that, all things being equal - personality, sexual ability, etc - that women in general would prefer a larger penis. If you had two men you loved equally in all departments, and one had a 5 incher and the other a 6 incher, you'd probably choose the larger one.

-Finally, I applaud your honesty. I do believe that your attitude will change eventually, though. As we grow and change, so does our ideas about beauty. A breast cancer survivored scarred by her masectomy is just as beautiful as a woman with youthful, healthy breasts...maybe even more so. There's something to be said for battle scars.

There's also something to be said for innate sexual preferences. As much as I respect breast cancer survivors (and I know a few), my dick just doesn't care about society's definitions of "true" beauty, or how I "ought" to choose partners. I don't control what makes it hard.

 

[HiddenLacey]

Actually, I think I might have used that term or a similar one. Just to clarify, when I say large or largish or something similar, I mean over 7 inches. That's the size it needs to be to hit my a spot. A little larger is even nicer though :smile:

But don't you see what I'm saying? I do not have the choice to line men up cocks pointing out and say "I'll take that one":tongue: BUT I'm not for one moment going to say I would not choose a larger one.

I just do not want anyone thinking that is all that matters. I guess if I were a random sex girl it might be the deciding factor. But I can't speak for those women only for myself.