Do women that don't like "jerks" dislike women that do?

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^^^ Significant others of jerkasses know that their beloved's behavior is deplorable, but they fool themselves into believing it for so long that they often reach a point where they don't have to fool themselves after a while, if you know what I mean. At that point, those that disagree with their main piece's jerkassed behavior become enemies. Said enemies will inevitably choose to stay away from them both, and the besotted lady or gent will begin to build up a hearty level of jerkassedness themselves, to deal with the fallout and "prove" that they were right all along.

In a perfect world, friends don't let friends date jerkasses; but if they won't listen to reason, what'reyagonnado?
 

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I lost a friend over a jerkassboy. One of my oldest and absolutely closest friends, too.

This guy was such a jerkass that he was rude to TheBF over and over again, which is extremely hard to do, like kicking a puppy, but I suppose that he was feeling jealous over TheBF's accomplishments or something and he attacked TheBF right in front of me over some erroneous assumptions, like being a "rich boy" and having everything given to him and having the right connections that's responsible for his success. TheBF paid for his college himself, got through it in 3.5 years, spent a lot of that time using a bedroll to sleep on the floor in the cheapest room he could find so that he could make it through without incurring debt, saved up enough money for a down payment to buy his first house a semester before he graduated, and his first year after college he made more money than both of his parents combined because he comes from a modest background. He's a self-made man, and so modest about it, and sweet and kind to others, and you'd have to be a real jerkass to make him the unwarranted target of personal attacks on his character, but that's what kind of jerk this guy is. He had literally just met TheBF, didn't know a thing about him, and less than an hour later was attacking him based upon stupid assumptions that he had made, even though TheBF had been nothing but friendly to him. What a jerkass! And for what reason? :confused22:

That wasn't an isolated incident. He treated me the same way, and total strangers, and waitresses, and his "friends" too, from what I could tell.

At first I thought that his behavior was a reaction because we had met before, and he had acted like a total jackass then! I was in one of my favorite hangouts, a little hole-in-the-wall bar where my then boyfriend worked as a bartender. It was the middle of the afternoon, the place was almost totally empty and the jukebox was off. I was drinking a beer at the bar and reading a book. It was lovely. Then this arrogant jerk strolls in. I knew his type. Lots of women like men like him, the confident arrogant "alpha dog" type, as some women describe them. I call them Jerks. He was an old "friend" of my boyfriend's from school, and he proceeded to hit on me right in front of my boyfriend. I just returned from a mountain climbing vacation and I was tan and my legs were much more muscular than usual, possibly ever, and I was wearing my hiking boots and shorts which showed them off. He struck up a conversation and we talked about mountain climbing. He claimed that he was currently working on a movie about mountain climbing that was going to be shot on a particular mountain, which he said was in Mexico (he got the country wrong, which I noticed immediately), and that if I wanted to come along, I could! He could arrange it, and wouldn't that be exciting and fun? He was obviously just trying to sleep with me and he assumed I'd be so easy that telling me about this movie would make me roll over and spread my legs for him. What a jerk. My boyfriend kept looking at him like, "You are still a jerk." I was amused by his pathetic attempt to pick me up and I formed a strong opinion of him.

So I initially thought that his jerkass behavior towards me and my love were because of that original embarrassing encounter with him years ago. Nope. It turns out that he's a jerk all the time. To everyone. In lots of different jerkass ways. He's a Master of Jerkishness.

The final straw happened when I went to visit my friend and I stayed the weekend with her and this jerkass. He attacked me non-stop, and she kept making excuses for him. I felt bad for her and I wasn't bothered when she acknowledged that he acting like a jerk and she was clearly embarrassed by his behavior and she would explain that he had issues from being adopted by wealthy people (Yeah, the hypocrisy, right?) who treated their biological son better than him, and his abandonment issues, etc, etc, etc. It was when she began justifying his behavior that my feelings towards her began changing. That's when I began noticing how she never said anything when he was a jerk. She never called him out or intervened, no matter what the situation was. For a long time, I thought she was just attempting to be diplomatic, but then it started to seem like she just didn't think his behavior was really that bad, and then it began to seem like sometimes she was on his side! It was like she was around his obnoxious behavior so much that she had lost all ability to discern what was appropriate behavior and what wasn't. He turned her into a jerkass, too!

That's a bit more than being a jerk isn't it? That guy sounds like he has some serious psychological issues.
 

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Hmmmm...I could be dating a jerkass - I recently ended my relationship with him because I just got tired of feeling like I was being mislead and lied to - Made me paranoid and suspicious and I decided I didn't like feeling that way. However, after a week, he called and I'd missed him so much we ended up back together. Thing is, he's all that too - brilliant, successful, gorgeous, funny, talented in many ways...I think he just has a difficult time letting go of his emotions and actually *being in it* - protects himself just in case he's screwed over by a female again (wife left him and it hurt him a great deal). My friends all think I'm an idiot and since I have many options can't understand why I don't explore those other options. There's just something hugely compelling about this particular guy. I'm not one to have always gone after the jerkasses but in this case I just can't seem to tear myself away.
 

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Yes I get annoyed at women who like jerks because they "rewarding" bad behavior which can cause this behavior to propagate. Guys might think it's ok to be jerks. Although come to think of it I shouldn't really worry about that because a guy who might think it's ok to be a jerk was already a jerk in the first place.
 

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I've had to break a friendship over this also. They have been together since she was 13 and he 19. She's never known any different than the way he's treated her. He openly slept with another woman during her last pregnancy and she excused him for it by saying she was too unattractive for him to want her at the moment! In restraunts he insults her in front of strangers and she laughs it off! He has constantly tried to sleep with me from day one and all I can think about is, how can my friend not see it or is she so worn down that she doesn't care anymore? I've let her know that while I valued our friendship, I could no longer tollerate her husbands behavior towards her or any women for that matter. I've let her know that should she decide to open her eyes and leave him, I'm here for her and her kids. Until then I refuse to subject myself to his horrible behavior or listen to her talk about it and shrug it off.
 

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Prettyswing, that is truly the sort of thing i was referring to in my answer. She tolerates someone because he is her children's father, and you may remain friends with her, but if he is around you must stand up for your zero-tolerance policy towards jerks. Age thirteen is very early and impressionable for the relationship to imprint on her. I'll bet that soon her children will be old enough to think for themselves and possibly ask you why you act in this way toward their dad, and you can succinctly explain to them, one on one. Trying to get into their mom's friend's pants is not a good thing and they should try not to do the same.
 

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I get called an asshole or such no matter what I do. I've had girls arch their backs when I can't even see what the problem is. One girl found me on a some dating site or something and just blew up when I asked why she messaged me, getting defensive and ranting some nonsense about how she isn't crazy. I had a shy girl in a college class ask her sister to get my MSN. She was a huge storyteller. After a few weeks she one day tells me that she was making everything up the whole time and then demands that I go to her place the next day. She reached the conclusion that I turn nasty over the internet

So many women are fucked up and their idea of "a jerk" is warped beyond all sense of proportion IMO. You have to separate the bullshit.
 
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Yes I get annoyed at women who like jerks because they "rewarding" bad behavior which can cause this behavior to propagate. Guys might think it's ok to be jerks. Although come to think of it I shouldn't really worry about that because a guy who might think it's ok to be a jerk was already a jerk in the first place.

This post hits the nail on the head! If women stopped rewarding and excusing jerkish behavior, it will stop. Same with men rewarding bitchy behavior in women. As long as they continue to reward such behavior, they make life harder for everyone else who has to deal with jerks and bitches.
 

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Prettyswing, that is truly the sort of thing i was referring to in my answer. She tolerates someone because he is her children's father, and you may remain friends with her, but if he is around you must stand up for your zero-tolerance policy towards jerks. Age thirteen is very early and impressionable for the relationship to imprint on her. I'll bet that soon her children will be old enough to think for themselves and possibly ask you why you act in this way toward their dad, and you can succinctly explain to them, one on one. Trying to get into their mom's friend's pants is not a good thing and they should try not to do the same.

Her kids are still too young to understand, but I have a 15 year old daughter. She's seen his behavior also and for me that was the last straw.

I'm in no way suggesting I have a perfect relationship myself, but doormat I am not nor will I ever be. I wish I could help her see just how a man should act, but she's not open to it at all. All I can do is protect my own family and not allow themm to see that type of behavior.

The theory of Karma is one I've always been facinated with and have to say...hope it bites him in the ass one day!
 

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So sad that some men would beat a woman, or even treat them like in other post where mentioned , so far ive never seen or heard about jerks like that, at least not with people i know
 
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Yes I get annoyed at women who like jerks because they "rewarding" bad behavior which can cause this behavior to propagate. Guys might think it's ok to be jerks. Although come to think of it I shouldn't really worry about that because a guy who might think it's ok to be a jerk was already a jerk in the first place.

That last bit is an important point. There were times in my past when I cynically thought I might improve my chances at dating--hell maybe lose my virginity--if I started acting like a jerk. But I just couldn't do it. It wasn't in my nature.

I know a guy that does rather openly do the "jerk act" thing though in hopes of getting more girls. He's had some limited success with it. I've never cared for the women he gets with it (see below).

This post hits the nail on the head! If women stopped rewarding and excusing jerkish behavior, it will stop. Same with men rewarding bitchy behavior in women. As long as they continue to reward such behavior, they make life harder for everyone else who has to deal with jerks and bitches.


Oh this is a good point too. Men going after bitchy women! I have friends that do this and I hate it! They bring over these awful, whiny, high maintenance women expecting me to just "ooh" and "aah" over their tits or ass and all I can think about is how terrible the dinner conversation must be. I always tell them that it isn't going to work, they always ignore me and then come back crying/angry when it turns out they're cheating on them. All I can do is shake my head.
 
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Then there's the couple across the street. One night, about a year ago, I caught him outside kicking his wife who was laying on the ground bleeding. One neighbor and I moved into stop it, which was hard because he was holding his 2 year old boy at the time, but we got him away from her. Then another guy pried away the kid and we got him on the ground to restrain him while he struggled and screamed drunken slurs at us.

Eventually the cops show up, he goes off to jail. I show up for court to testify only to find out a deal was made. He got out on time served and he moved right back in with her!

I seriously don't understand that.

I don't understand it either, but it happens all the time. You can't help somebody who doesn't want to be helped.

Also, sometimes women really do want out of these kinds of relationships, but the abuser is able to manipulate the situation through fear. The woman agrees to or fights to have charges dropped because she's convinced that if she doesn't the guy will come back and make her regret it. He moves back in because she is too afraid of him to stop him. In cases like this, the woman has been abused to the point that she needs therapy to understand that she can get away from abuser.

Unfortunately, our laws are set up for punishment, not prevention. While an domestic violence restraining order may threaten punishment for a person who violates it, the reality is that it's just a piece of paper. An abuser can kill a woman even if the DVO is in effect. The only way to prevent it is to call 911 as soon as the guy gets within 500 feet of her, then stay out of his reach until the police arrive.
 

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Yesterday talking to a friend, i was asking her about her friend that i invited to a movie, i chatted with the girl, all fine, but after that, i never saw her again online, then my friend told me, she got back with her super jelaous controlling ex, so controlling even he check her email account, and contacts, my friend still care for her, but even her cant do much
 

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No I wouldn't say I dislike them. I would say they get what they sign up for. What seems rediculous sometimes is when a girl is with a jerk and then gets upset at some point because he acts like a jerk.
 

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No I wouldn't say I dislike them. I would say they get what they sign up for. What seems rediculous sometimes is when a girl is with a jerk and then gets upset at some point because he acts like a jerk.

Quoted for Truth! If she knew he was a jerk, then why is she surprised when he acts like one?
 

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A woman attracted to assholes is like a moth attracted to flames. The only way they learn is by getting burned.
From what's been posted here, it's clear that some people never learn.

It really all comes down to what your expectations are, not who the other person is. If that's what you want, then enjoy yourself. Many people spend their entire lives living a lie, and they are none the wiser.